Nox-ich

[aanthony]

okay so my hippo tang has ich, so i went to one of my lfs, and noticed he was dosing his tanks with this NOX-ICH stuff, and he told me that if you want to get rid of ich then use this stuff, then i asked, well wont this be bad for my inverts, he went on to say "look at my fish, theres no ick on them, look at my inverts their all still alive, ive been doing saltwater tanks since i was 8 years old, yada yada yada..... So this guy is dosing his tanks which have inverts in it with this nox ich stuff, and everything is alive, and he appartently does this every shipment. in my tank i have a 2 cleaner shrimp, one cbs, one decorator crab, 5 feather dusters, 1 coco worm, one tube anemone. should i really trust this stuff. This guy doses his tanks with it, which are full of crabs, starfish, corals, etc. Even when i contimplating buying it, he was like "if this kills inverts then would i do this" and then he dumped a bunch in one of his tanks. what do i do, do i trust what the bottle says, or by what i just saw with my own eyes?

 

[lion_crazz]

Do not use the nox ich in your tank. The solution is 50% malachite green, which is very bad for your inverts, live rock, and tank. He might dilute the solution a lot with water, you never know.
You know you can't trust something when right on the bottle it says it treats both freshwater and saltwater ich. How? They are two totally different parasites in different water conditions.

 

[aanthony]

and to add
active ingredients Sodium Chloride .50%, Malachite Green .50%.

 

[aanthony]

wow, i wasnt expecting you to respond so fast

 

[lion_crazz]

Yep, you do not want that in your tank.

 

[aanthony]

alright, well then now im happy its only 4 dollars down the drain, as opposed to hundreds

 

[aanthony]

the other thing that i was wonder was, even if this was powerful enough to kill ich, but not my shrimp, it would still wipe out all my pods, and little critters.

 

[lion_crazz]

Originally Posted by AAnthony
the other thing that i was wonder was, even if this was powerful enough to kill ich, but not my shrimp, it would still wipe out all my pods, and little critters.
Absolutely.
How bad is the ich in your tank?

 

[aanthony]

not too horrible, the only one showing signs of ick is the hippo tang, the yellow is perfectly fine along with the anthias, clownfish, 6 line, and mandarin. I have just one question, the typical answer for ich is hypo or copper. and hypo is suggested alot more than copper is. Now when we have our fishtanks we are trying to create a natural enviroment, now my question is, how do fish in the ocean get cured of ick, i thought it was cleaner shrimp and cleaner wrasse? i dont know, all i know is that hyposalinity cannot be performed in the ocean/

 

[rudedog40]

Someone answered this question in another ich post. Basically, ich has to have a host to survive. In the ocean, hosts don't stay in one generalized area, like an enclosed ecosystem like a saltwater aquarium tank. So even though fish can get ich in the ocean, it's not widespread because the infected fish are so spread out.

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by AAnthony
not too horrible, the only one showing signs of ick is the hippo tang, the yellow is perfectly fine along with the anthias, clownfish, 6 line, and mandarin. I have just one question, the typical answer for ich is hypo or copper. and hypo is suggested alot more than copper is. Now when we have our fishtanks we are trying to create a natural enviroment, now my question is, how do fish in the ocean get cured of ick, i thought it was cleaner shrimp and cleaner wrasse? i dont know, all i know is that hyposalinity cannot be performed in the ocean/
The ocean is not a closed system like our tanks are. If a fish gets ich in the ocean, it is swimming in billions of gallons of water. When the ich drop off to reproduce, the same fish are not there waiting to be re-infected. Ich is a parasite. It attatches, feeds, then drops back off. If a fish's immune system is high, or it has cleaners to pick the cysts off then the parasite realy does not effect the fish much. When the fish is overly consumed by the parasite then it is lacking blood. The immune system is weakened and the fish can die. This is why it is so important NOT to allow such a parasite into the tank to begin with. Ich is easily avoidable.