Nutri-seawater, add fish immediately?

stones

Member
Nutri-Seawater claims you can add fish immediately. My local fish supplier also claims this & i trust her in her work.
Anyways, i used nothing but nutri-seawater & Caribsea live sand & live rock.
Should i wait? Any thoughts would be great.
I'm just doing a small 10 gallon tank in my bedroom & want to add to 2 percula clowns.
Eventually once the tank has established itself well, i'd like to do some soft corals.
Any help would be great as i'm new to doing any live rock or coral.
I'm not new to the hobby but i have a 37 gallon fish only tank that's been running for 4 years now.
P.S. With a small tank of this size, should i use a power head for more flow in the tank?
 
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eric b 125

Guest
no matter what, you have to check your parameters to see if there was a spike or a cycle. all that water is is pre-mixed saltwater.
 

jackri

Active Member
I'd still be patient and see if it doesn't go through a mini cycle or possible full cycle still. I would think you're still going to see a spike right away but not like a "new" tank.
 

bang guy

Moderator
The water you use is irrelevant to cycling a tank. Nutri-seawater should be ashamed and I would no longer accept advice from anyone else that tells you you can add fish immediately.
 

stones

Member
Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2964375
The water you use is irrelevant to cycling a tank. Nutri-seawater should be ashamed and I would no longer accept advice from anyone else that tells you you can add fish immediately.
Are you essentially telling me that it's pointless to even buy pre-mixed water then?
As for that persons advice, well that tank has been up for a couple years with the same setup as what i'm doing & she says they are doing great. Never had any issues.
 

bang guy

Moderator
Originally Posted by Stones
http:///forum/post/2964378
Are you essentially telling me that it's pointless to even buy pre-mixed water then?
As for that persons advice, well that tank has been up for a couple years with the same setup as what i'm doing & she says they are doing great. Never had any issues.

It's not pointless, it's very convenient. There is nothing wrong with the water, I just saying it's not going to cycle your tank just by adding good water.
As far as the powerhead question, saltwater fish appreciate a high energy tank. For a typical 10 gallon tank 100 - 200 gallons per hour of flow is good.
 

naclh2o nut

Member
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Your LFs may have said that you can add immed. And this would be true. However I will have to believe that she meant to cycle the tank. Some people will use fish( me included- before I found this site)
to cycle tank. A damsel or other hardy fish that they can torture with ammo. and nitrites.

So in this sense she was telling you correctly. Now if she meant you could fill up a 125 tank and add your wish list that day then I would run from there screaming.
The pre mix is easy just expensive.
 

stones

Member
Originally Posted by NaClH2O Nut
http:///forum/post/2965329
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Your LFs may have said that you can add immed. And this would be true. However I will have to believe that she meant to cycle the tank. Some people will use fish( me included- before I found this site)
to cycle tank. A damsel or other hardy fish that they can torture with ammo. and nitrites.

So in this sense she was telling you correctly. Now if she meant you could fill up a 125 tank and add your wish list that day then I would run from there screaming.
The pre mix is easy just expensive.

No, that's not what she meant.
She was talking about the exact setup that i mentioned above. A 10 gallon tank with about 12 pounds of live rock, live sand & the nutri-seawater & 2 percula clowns. Adding the fish once the water was up to temp.
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by Stones
http:///forum/post/2965435
No, that's not what she meant.
She was talking about the exact setup that i mentioned above. A 10 gallon tank with about 12 pounds of live rock, live sand & the nutri-seawater & 2 percula clowns. Adding the fish once the water was up to temp.
What if there is die off on the rock? It is not a wise decision to add fish into a newly set up tank. It is very irresponsible of her to tell you that you can do it all that same day. Put the rock in and test your ammonia for a week. You can add some fish food to see how quickly the bacteria on the rock breaks down the ammonia and nitrite. If the rock was not ghost fed before then there may not be a lot of bacteria on it. It is better to find out how well cured the rock is, and how much of a bioload it can handle, before you add fish. You should wait at least three weeks or more. Add a power head to the tank also.
 

naclh2o nut

Member
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However I will have to believe that she meant to cycle the tank. Some people will use fish( me included- before I found this site) to cycle tank. A damsel or other hardy fish that they can torture with ammo. and nitrites.
Please don't do this. Not that it won't work. You may not lose the clowns but way should you take the chance and what did those cute little fishy do to be tortured. Use a dead shrimp or ghost feed your tank. Watch the ammo, nitrite levels. When you see them go up then back to zero then it is safer to add fish. Once you add fish monitor your levels and make sure your tank is ready. Keep ammo,nitrite at zero. Nitrate as close to zero as possible.
Goodluck and take the time to enjoy the journey.
 
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