Obama to reverse the ban on U.S. Funded Stem Cell Research

socal57che

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Why not use adult stem cells rather than killing human embryos to harvest stem cells? I don't want my tax dollars used to kill human embryos. If private individuals want to fund the process, let them. The ban only blocked federal tax dollars, not private funding. Why am I being forced to contribute to the killing of human beings when I clearly don't want to? Sometimes I HATE my government. I have no problem at all using tax money for adult stem cell research.
 

jackri

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Same reason you're forced to pay for other people's mortgages. I love funding poor and immoral behavior (yes it's killing babies IMO).... and I wasn't going to pull myself into this thread.
 

chilwil84

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Originally Posted by salty blues
http:///forum/post/2980735
Don't you think taxpayer dollars could be better spent on something other than killing innocent human life?

on something that has not shown any signs of doing anygood, while adult and umbilical cord stem cells are both proven winners
 

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2980669
Why not use adult stem cells rather than killing human embryos to harvest stem cells? I don't want my tax dollars used to kill human embryos. If private individuals want to fund the process, let them. The ban only blocked federal tax dollars, not private funding. Why am I being forced to contribute to the killing of human beings when I clearly don't want to? Sometimes I HATE my government. I have no problem at all using tax money for adult stem cell research.
Im am completely against embryonic stem cell research,But i am in favor of umbilical cord and adult stem cell research to be funded by the federal government.
I see no difference from the latter 2 of the 3 options as NASA being funded.It it important research but not at the cost of a unborn child.
 

dragonzim

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2980830
why?
Because I personally feel that an embryo is NOT a living human being and if scientists can derive any treatments or medical breakthroughs using embryonic stem cells then they should be given the funding to do so.
 

darknes

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Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/2981188
Because I personally feel that an embryo is NOT a living human being and if scientists can derive any treatments or medical breakthroughs using embryonic stem cells then they should be given the funding to do so.
Don't you have enough respect for other people's moral concerns to say that this should be done with private funding rather than our tax dollars? There hasn't really been much progress with embryonic stem cells...there has been much more through adult stem cells which doesn't require killing a human fetus.
 

alix2.0

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Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/2981188
Because I personally feel that an embryo is NOT a living human being and if scientists can derive any treatments or medical breakthroughs using embryonic stem cells then they should be given the funding to do so.
+1
 

dragonzim

Active Member
Originally Posted by Darknes
http:///forum/post/2981194
Don't you have enough respect for other people's moral concerns to say that this should be done with private funding rather than our tax dollars? There hasn't really been much progress with embryonic stem cells...there has been much more through adult stem cells which doesn't require killing a human fetus.
I am tired of the Christian Right dictating policy in this country. It has nothing to do with morals and everything to do with making the US a leader in science and research again.
There are many, many things that I dont like our tax dollars being used for. Where's my vote on those things?
 

jackri

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It's funny how having 2500 abortions A DAY in the country is fine with liberals... but loose 2500 lives fighting a war with VOLUNTEERS over a few years (yes even one is tradegic) for what they believe in (no one forces us to join the military and yes I'm in the military) and the liberals go crazy saying how bush and his minions killed these poor kids is ridiculous. It also has nothing to do with the Christian Right, it has to do with no one taking responsibility for their actions and want their "easy" way out.
Have a baby once and see if they aren't precious -- and ask people later in life how they felt about the abortions (espcially the lady from roe v. wade). Even check out the "Human Body Exhibit" if you ever have a chance and they have a fetus section (ones that didn't survive naturally) and you'd be amazed how early they have full human features.
Better yet, some of these same people will cry foul when if you should want to flush a damsel.... (I've never done it but its only a damsel) but have no problem with abortion as they aren't "technically alive".
But... on the plus side it will keep the voting liberals down in the future. Read Freakanomics.... has an interesting theory that abortions have dropped crime rates as the babies from 20 years ago that were aborted were on average more likely to be involved with crime.
Ok I'm done ranting, won't change anyones mind but I feel better :)
 

veni vidi vici

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If we are going to do away with moral values and obligations for the sake of being a leader in science and research ,then we are no better than the ones we accuse of being human rights violators.
There are better alternatives then embryonic stem cell.IMO we should explore them before we start killing unborn babies.
Not that i would ever be for embryonic stem cell research.
 

dragonzim

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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2981206
If we are going to do away with moral values and obligations for the sake of being a leader in science and research ,then we are no better than the ones we accuse of being human rights violators.
There are better alternatives then embryonic stem cell.IMO we should explore them before we start killing unborn babies.
Not that i would ever be for embryonic stem cell research.
Its all a matter of opinion if it is "killing unborn babies"
 
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