Obama's brothers?

stdreb27

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This isn't a political thread, however it does regard Obama. Does anyone besides me think it is interesting how Obama's half brother's in Africa keep getting tracked down. They are just unique stories, how one person could be running for prez, while the other lives in a shack for less than $1 a month in rent. The stark contrast in their lives is really interesting.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-in-Kenya.html
 

texasmetal

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We all choose our paths. My little brother went from being a drug dealer to making $5000 a month running an oil rig. I'm a consistent grunt, making ~$1200 a month. I don't expect my brother to bail me out when I get in a bind.
 
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tizzo

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ooh ooh!! I have a homeless idiot of a brother who is 43 years old, and tells everyone he's 28. Awesome con he is...
When the twin towers got hit his response, "I don't know why everybody is acting like they really care, it's not as if we KNEW those people"
If I ever run for Prez...(IT COULD HAPPEN!), nobody better bring my brother outa the woodwork!!
 

hlcroghan

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Anyone in my family would reap the rewards if I ever made it big as long as they haven't screwed me over, and then I would still prolly help them some. That includes close friends also.
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2728594
There is a difference between relatives and family. Obama has probably never met the guy.
The story said he'd met em a couple of times.

Don't get wrong, I'm not knocking or supporting obama's actions dealing or not dealing with his philandering fathers kids after he left Harvard and returned to Kenya. I just think it is a unique situation, a prince and pauper type story.
I'm a second gen American, and there were two sides of my grandparents family, one side stayed traditional catholic the other became protestant. It created a rift. The funny thing is the protestant side became very successful. However the other side is pretty bizar, the family story says my mom has a couple cousins living in LA dumpsters, and I have met one of her cousins that I met that is crazy, and wanders around Dallas with a homemade violin playing wearing a poncho living on the streets.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2728608
The story said he'd met em a couple of times.

Don't get wrong, I'm not knocking or supporting obama's actions dealing or not dealing with his philandering fathers kids after he left Harvard and returned to Kenya. I just think it is a unique situation, a prince and pauper type story.
I'm a second gen American, and there were two sides of my grandparents family, one side stayed traditional catholic the other became protestant. It created a rift. The funny thing is the protestant side became very successful. However the other side is pretty bizar, the family story says my mom has a couple cousins living in LA dumpsters, and I have met one of her cousins that I met that is crazy, and wanders around Dallas with a homemade violin playing wearing a poncho living on the streets.
My family has never had much to do with my dad's. They are a bunch of self rightous mormons and my day was a jack mormon which they didn't like and my siblings and me never bought into the mormon stuff so they hate us.
Darn shame too cause all my aunts and uncles are milionaires or at least married to one as are a few of the cousins. I have nothing against my cousins, just don't know them. The aunts and uncles, well I don't care much for the way they treated my dad so I wouldn't pour pee in their mouths if their teeth were on fire.
 

pontius

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ok, none of you see the problem with this?
Obama wants to raise taxes. Michelle Obama explained it away as, "everyone is just going to have to get used to a smaller piece of the pie". Meanwhile, Obama can't throw his brother, say, $100 that would support him for over 4 years by what he's living off right now. you don't see any kind of hippocrisy in that?
This has absolutely nothing to with "choosing a life". this is a story of two brothers....one born American, one born in squalor. and he can't even throw his brother a few bucks that would not even be missed, yet wants us to pay more taxes so we can support his big government spending programs.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/2728847
ok, none of you see the problem with this?
Obama wants to raise taxes. Michelle Obama explained it away as, "everyone is just going to have to get used to a smaller piece of the pie". Meanwhile, Obama can't throw his brother, say, $100 that would support him for over 4 years by what he's living off right now. you don't see any kind of hippocrisy in that?
This has absolutely nothing to with "choosing a life". this is a story of two brothers....one born American, one born in squalor. and he can't even throw his brother a few bucks that would not even be missed, yet wants us to pay more taxes so we can support his big government spending programs.
Excellent point. Kinda like Ted Kennedy who never saw a tax ncrease he didn't love but his family parks their wealth off shore so they can avoid the taxes we surfs have to pay.
 

texasmetal

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Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/2728847
ok, none of you see the problem with this?
Obama wants to raise taxes. Michelle Obama explained it away as, "everyone is just going to have to get used to a smaller piece of the pie". Meanwhile, Obama can't throw his brother, say, $100 that would support him for over 4 years by what he's living off right now. you don't see any kind of hippocrisy in that?
This has absolutely nothing to with "choosing a life". this is a story of two brothers....one born American, one born in squalor. and he can't even throw his brother a few bucks that would not even be missed, yet wants us to pay more taxes so we can support his big government spending programs.
Maybe his brother would squander the extra $100 you suggest. Remember, Africa is a poverty stricken place, with lots of AIDS and alcoholism, and it's completely corrupt. I'm sure he knows his brother better than any of us do.
Okay, example time. My dad works on my Grandfathers oil lease, for $15 an hour. His older brother, my uncle, OWNS the family business. Cable television systems, started by my grandfather in the early 70's (banked on it too). My dad owned a partnership ($520K worth) and was forced to sell it when my parents divorced. He blew through $260,000 in a matter of about 5 years. He sold the home I grew up in that he never paid homeowners insurance on, that was another $160K he blew through in no time. He now lives in a crappy trailer and drives a Dodge Ram Charger he bought in 1986 that has over 500k miles on it, while my uncle is raking in the dough, playing his grand piano, in his 4 bedroom house, with his 8 vehicles and his wife who takes monthly trips to Europe to see art exhibits.
Is my uncle supposed to keep forking over cash to my dad to "help him out"? He dug his own hole. He created his own debt. You don't just throw a dog a bone if the dog doesn't earn it. That's called a hand-out. And I thought you folks were complaining about Obama's "Socialist" agenda. Now it's not good enough that he's not giving out handouts.
Family I understand. But like I said, I don't expect my brother to fork over some cash out of pity or guilt or any other reason to help me out when I'm in a financial bind. He doesn't owe me squat. I've made the choices I've made and I'll deal with them.
And improving public services costs tax money. Less taxes equals crappy government services. I guess this is lumped into the whole "Socialist" thing though. People helping people. Indirectly, but it's people helping people. We are a spoiled nation. We need to detach ourselves from the dollar bill for a while and readjust our perspectives of what made this land the place that it is. Perhaps we'll gain a new appreciation for what our forefathers had to do in order to get us to where we are.
 

pontius

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Originally Posted by TexasMetal
http:///forum/post/2729474
Maybe his brother would squander the extra $100 you suggest. Remember, Africa is a poverty stricken place, with lots of AIDS and alcoholism, and it's completely corrupt. I'm sure he knows his brother better than any of us do.
maybe he would built a rocket ship and fly to Neptune, what's your point?
the facts are this.....you've got one guy who is a multi-millionaire and running for the most powerful position in the world. and wants to raise your taxes when he gets there. he's got a brother- a BLOOD RELATIVE- that is living in absolute squalor at no fault of his own. and he can't throw him a few bucks to help him out. if he gave him what he probably spends on one meal, it would support the guy for a while. what evidence do you have that he would squander the money away? what's there to squander it on? but for the grace of God, these two could be sitting in each other's shoes.
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by TexasMetal
http:///forum/post/2729474
Maybe his brother would squander the extra $100 you suggest. Remember, Africa is a poverty stricken place, with lots of AIDS and alcoholism, and it's completely corrupt. I'm sure he knows his brother better than any of us do.
Okay, example time. My dad works on my Grandfathers oil lease, for $15 an hour. His older brother, my uncle, OWNS the family business. Cable television systems, started by my grandfather in the early 70's (banked on it too). My dad owned a partnership ($520K worth) and was forced to sell it when my parents divorced. He blew through $260,000 in a matter of about 5 years. He sold the home I grew up in that he never paid homeowners insurance on, that was another $160K he blew through in no time. He now lives in a crappy trailer and drives a Dodge Ram Charger he bought in 1986 that has over 500k miles on it, while my uncle is raking in the dough, playing his grand piano, in his 4 bedroom house, with his 8 vehicles and his wife who takes monthly trips to Europe to see art exhibits.
Is my uncle supposed to keep forking over cash to my dad to "help him out"? He dug his own hole. He created his own debt. You don't just throw a dog a bone if the dog doesn't earn it. That's called a hand-out. And I thought you folks were complaining about Obama's "Socialist" agenda. Now it's not good enough that he's not giving out handouts.
Family I understand. But like I said, I don't expect my brother to fork over some cash out of pity or guilt or any other reason to help me out when I'm in a financial bind. He doesn't owe me squat. I've made the choices I've made and I'll deal with them.
And improving public services costs tax money. Less taxes equals crappy government services. I guess this is lumped into the whole "Socialist" thing though. People helping people. Indirectly, but it's people helping people. We are a spoiled nation. We need to detach ourselves from the dollar bill for a while and readjust our perspectives of what made this land the place that it is. Perhaps we'll gain a new appreciation for what our forefathers had to do in order to get us to where we are.

Of course not. Pontius's argument is that Obama was asked what his favorite scripture was. To which Obama replied.
Matt 25:45 "He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'
Then used this as a spring board to say we need to "help" people more, and by help imo he meant more social services.
In Pontius's mind he sees this as hypocrisy, seeing how his own brother pays less than a dollar a day for a 6 x 9 foot shanty. While Obama a multi-millionaire lives where ever he lives. Obama is not poor. Yet has met the man and did not help him get out of his current situation, by handing him $$.
Personally I don't really care, I wouldn't pay to help a half "brother" a product of father's philandering after he abandoned my family. I also feel like Obama is being consistant, b/c he feels like the government is responsible not the individual or the family...
 

reefraff

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I am not saying obus should or shouldn't help out that half brother but just like with every other failing of Obus I find it halarious how quick the excuses come flying out of the closet every time one of his flaws are exposed. Lets assume the brother is a drunk, there are ways to help out drunks without feeding their habbits.
I kinda figure Obama doesn't think he owes this guy who for the most part is a stranger anything. Kinda how I feel about those people Obama wants to give my money too.
 

cowfishrule

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2729712
I also feel like Obama is being consistant, b/c he feels like the government is responsible not the individual or the family...


case and point. more govt involvement that is not needed.
you cant pay your m0rtgage (stupid world filters). should the gov bail you out?
no. you should have thought this out better.
it all comes down to personal responsibility. besides, if obama gave 2 s's about his brother, rather than throw him cash, wouldnt he just grease some wheels and bring him over here? seriously.
 

texasmetal

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Originally Posted by COWFISHRULE
http:///forum/post/2729747
case and point. more govt involvement that is not needed.
you cant pay your m0rtgage (stupid world filters). should the gov bail you out?
no. you should have thought this out better.
it all comes down to personal responsibility. besides, if obama gave 2 s's about his brother, rather than throw him cash, wouldnt he just grease some wheels and bring him over here? seriously.
If there's anything he could do to help the guy out, it would be taking him out of Africa. If the AIDS or malaria doesn't get you, some posse of war mongers might.
I see it like this. If you live in the ghetto and you're afraid of getting shot or you want to escape the crack houses, it's up to YOU, and it can be done, it just takes effort. I don't see it as being any different for this guy, it's just more mileage in between.
 
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