Obama's brothers?

stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by TexasMetal
http:///forum/post/2729757
If there's anything he could do to help the guy out, it would be taking him out of Africa. If the AIDS or malaria doesn't get you, some posse of war mongers might.
I see it like this. If you live in the ghetto and you're afraid of getting shot or you want to escape the crack houses, it's up to YOU, and it can be done, it just takes effort. I don't see it as being any different for this guy, it's just more mileage in between.
This is true and a view I think you'll find pontius holds too...
But I'd help family... And your family has helped your dad they gave him a job.
 
rylan1

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This is stupid... by anyones standards...Obama just became well off the last few years.... He started his career making $10K a year and had student loans from IVY league schools.
He's been to Africa like 2-3 times...which happened in recent years... He met his father once after his father left for Harvard when he was 2.
Obama doesn't really owe his half brother... or his family in Africa anything... if he chooses not to support people in his life like his grandmother who raised him... then you can question that... if he had children he didn't support than that would be issue of concern.. It makes an interesting story... but take McCain... and their adopted daughter... theoritically she should recieve a generous inheritance.... I assume she has family in the Phillipinnes (excuse spelling)... probably brothers and sisters... is it her responsiblity to send them money? Should it be expected?
I say no
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2729712
Of course not. Pontius's argument is that Obama was asked what his favorite scripture was. To which Obama replied.
Matt 25:45 "He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'
Then used this as a spring board to say we need to "help" people more, and by help imo he meant more social services.
In Pontius's mind he sees this as hypocrisy, seeing how his own brother pays less than a dollar a day for a 6 x 9 foot shanty. While Obama a multi-millionaire lives where ever he lives. Obama is not poor. Yet has met the man and did not help him get out of his current situation, by handing him $$.
Personally I don't really care, I wouldn't pay to help a half "brother" a product of father's philandering after he abandoned my family. I also feel like Obama is being consistant, b/c he feels like the government is responsible not the individual or the family...
Read this.

Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2729821
This is stupid... by anyones standards...Obama just became well off the last few years.... He started his career making $10K a year and had student loans from IVY league schools.
He's been to Africa like 2-3 times...which happened in recent years... He met his father once after his father left for Harvard when he was 2.
Obama doesn't really owe his half brother... or his family in Africa anything... if he chooses not to support people in his life like his grandmother who raised him... then you can question that... if he had children he didn't support than that would be issue of concern.. It makes an interesting story... but take McCain... and their adopted daughter... theoritically she should recieve a generous inheritance.... I assume she has family in the Phillipinnes (excuse spelling)... probably brothers and sisters... is it her responsiblity to send them money? Should it be expected?
I say no
 
aquaknight

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2729712
Personally I don't really care, I wouldn't pay to help a half "brother" a product of father's philandering after he abandoned my family. I also feel like Obama is being consistant, b/c he feels like the government is responsible not the individual or the family...
I don't see how this matters though. I mean if it's really 'just the governments' fault, why were there thousands of people lending support/help to the jews/blacks/other races during WWII? France/Poland's government should have dealt with it, right? Or now, why are we ordering Russia to stop firing on Georgia? Georgia's governemnt should be able to handle it.
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2729821
... if he chooses not to support people in his life like his grandmother who raised him... then you can question that... if he had children he didn't support than that would be issue of concern...
That's what I get out of it. I just want to know if he's at least extended help once? I mean, if family's in the hole, at least give them a ladder. If they turnaround and pawn the ladder in for booze, fine, let them rot in that hole.
 
texasmetal

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2729762
This is true and a view I think you'll find pontius holds too...
But I'd help family... And your family has helped your dad they gave him a job.
Oh they've helped him out a lot more than that. My dad has blown more money than most people will ever see in their lifetime. It's the first job he's had since my parents divorced 15 years ago. And I won't get into the legal fees and lawyer fees my grandfather had to pay because of some fiasco he got into... 48 year old teenager. One time he offered to help me out. My vehicle had broken down so he came and loaded it up, took it off to "get it fixed". I got it back 3 years later with another 150,000 miles on it. And all he does is whine about being broke and my grandfather being a "tightwad". He's a sad, sad man.
Shouldn't have helped him out. It's called tough love. Catch a man some fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.
This guys father should help him out. Harvard grad? I hear a cha-ching in the distance. He apparently plans on attending some college of sorts so maybe he is worth helping, and if the dude shows some initiative then maybe he will be helped. From the article it he says he is ashamed of himself, which says to me he could be doing more with his life and he knows it.
I understand the philosophy, it's all good will. And it's the nice thing to do, and on occasion the right thing to do. But it's not an obligation.
 
rylan1

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2729880
I don't see how this matters though. I mean if it's really 'just the governments' fault, why were there thousands of people lending support/help to the jews/blacks/other races during WWII? France/Poland's government should have dealt with it, right? Or now, why are we ordering Russia to stop firing on Georgia? Georgia's governemnt should be able to handle it.
That's what I get out of it. I just want to know if he's at least extended help once? I mean, if family's in the hole, at least give them a ladder. If they turnaround and pawn the ladder in for booze, fine, let them rot in that hole.
I still think there is a difference.... this is more than just extended family... its like meeting a distant cousin once at a family reunion... and being held responsible for their well being... I just don't think people should be critical or judgmental about his relationship w/ them regardless of what it may be.
 
texasmetal

texasmetal

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2729933
I still think there is a difference.... this is more than just extended family... its like meeting a distant cousin once at a family reunion... and being held responsible for their well being... I just don't think people should be critical or judgmental about his relationship w/ them regardless of what it may be.
But you know that's probably exactly what the journalist had in mind when they got the chance to do the story.
 
aquaknight

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2729933
I still think there is a difference.... this is more than just extended family... its like meeting a distant cousin once at a family reunion... and being held responsible for their well being... I just don't think people should be critical or judgmental about his relationship w/ them regardless of what it may be.
I don't anyone is holding Obama responible for his brother's permanent well being, just if his brother is "stuck" somewhere, has he at least attempted to give him a nudge once? If a distant cousin wanted a plane ticket out of somewhere, and I had the means, sure, he would get the ticket, once and only once. If he screws up again, sorry, but I'm done. I'm just interested to see if help was offered at least once to his brother, which I'm don't sure has?
*Note: I use the plane as merely a reference scenario, please don't say his brother doesn't want out of ____ place. *
 
texasmetal

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I think it's fair to assume that the guy does want out of the place considering his references to the violence and his shame.
 
pontius

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This whole thing is a joke. we're not talking about a guy who makes minimum wage having to support a deadbeat brother. we're talking about a guy who's a multi-millionaire who could make the most insignificant contribution that could help his brother out. how much do you think Obama would miss $100 if he gave it to the guy? and this is NOT like meeting a "distant cousin", this is like meeting a BROTHER. like I said, but for the grace of God, Obama could be in a shack in Africa and his brother could be the one running for president.
and I'm still baffled by TexaMetal's rationale that this guy is somehow in a situation he can get out of. do you know ANYTHING about Africa? this guy's probably got more chance of getting separated with a machete than going out and finding a job. there is nothing in the article to indicate his addicted to any kind of drugs or alcohol, or has AIDS, or some other disease, or has done anything else to bring this kind of life on himself.
I just think the rationale is funny. I'm not saying Obama should give him a million dollars or build him a house or anything like that. I'm saying that the smallest bit of help that Obama would give him could make a world of difference in his life, yet he chooses not to. but he wants you to vote for him in November because he cares about people. lmao.
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/2729974
This whole thing is a joke. we're not talking about a guy who makes minimum wage having to support a deadbeat brother. we're talking about a guy who's a multi-millionaire who could make the most insignificant contribution that could help his brother out. how much do you think Obama would miss $100 if he gave it to the guy? and this is NOT like meeting a "distant cousin", this is like meeting a BROTHER. like I said, but for the grace of God, Obama could be in a shack in Africa and his brother could be the one running for president.
and I'm still baffled by TexaMetal's rationale that this guy is somehow in a situation he can get out of. do you know ANYTHING about Africa? this guy's probably got more chance of getting separated with a machete than going out and finding a job. there is nothing in the article to indicate his addicted to any kind of drugs or alcohol, or has AIDS, or some other disease, or has done anything else to bring this kind of life on himself.
I just think the rationale is funny. I'm not saying Obama should give him a million dollars or build him a house or anything like that. I'm saying that the smallest bit of help that Obama would give him could make a world of difference in his life, yet he chooses not to. but he wants you to vote for him in November because he cares about people. lmao.

There is a little bit of a difference between the "land of opportunity" and africa as far as being able to make it.
 
reefraff

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Amazing
Rylan agrees that a person doesn't own a distant relative anything but he supports Obama's government giveaway programs which forces working Americans to subsidize perfect strangers.
 
texasmetal

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Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/2729974
This whole thing is a joke. we're not talking about a guy who makes minimum wage having to support a deadbeat brother. we're talking about a guy who's a multi-millionaire who could make the most insignificant contribution that could help his brother out. how much do you think Obama would miss $100 if he gave it to the guy? and this is NOT like meeting a "distant cousin", this is like meeting a BROTHER. like I said, but for the grace of God, Obama could be in a shack in Africa and his brother could be the one running for president.
and I'm still baffled by TexaMetal's rationale that this guy is somehow in a situation he can get out of. do you know ANYTHING about Africa? this guy's probably got more chance of getting separated with a machete than going out and finding a job. there is nothing in the article to indicate his addicted to any kind of drugs or alcohol, or has AIDS, or some other disease, or has done anything else to bring this kind of life on himself.
I just think the rationale is funny. I'm not saying Obama should give him a million dollars or build him a house or anything like that. I'm saying that the smallest bit of help that Obama would give him could make a world of difference in his life, yet he chooses not to. but he wants you to vote for him in November because he cares about people. lmao.
There's not a lot to the article, period. Just enough to make people think Obama's a terd. Maybe the guy hasn't indicated to Barrack that he wants help. Maybe the guy doesn't want help. Maybe you're right. Maybe Obama doesn't give a crap. Maybe there's more to it than we know. The guy didn't indicate any animosity toward Barrack.
Send Sally Struthers $1 a month.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2741165
Now this is just funny.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...ech-text_x.htm
It's that fundamental belief — I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper — that makes this country work. It's what allows us to pursue our individual dreams, yet still come together as a single American family. "E pluribus unum." Out of many, one. -Obama
I was wondering how long that would take to come back to haunt him. I heard Limbaugh say it Friday and thought he was joking. Looked it up today.
 
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everyone has relatives that they dont stay in contact with. doesnt the GOP veep have a brother in law in trouble? both are irrelevant and non issues
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2728608
The story said he'd met em a couple of times.

Don't get wrong, I'm not knocking or supporting obama's actions dealing or not dealing with his philandering fathers kids after he left Harvard and returned to Kenya. I just think it is a unique situation, a prince and pauper type story.
I'm a second gen American, and there were two sides of my grandparents family, one side stayed traditional catholic the other became protestant. It created a rift. The funny thing is the protestant side became very successful. However the other side is pretty bizar, the family story says my mom has a couple cousins living in LA dumpsters, and I have met one of her cousins that I met that is crazy, and wanders around Dallas with a homemade violin playing wearing a poncho living on the streets.
 
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vinnyraptor

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low and desperate. he doesnt even know them. and how do we know he hasn't reached out to them. you assume these brothers are dieing to come to America. maybe there happy and content right where they are. maybe he has reached out and they declined. we dont know....
what about McInsanes ex wife? wasn't he cheating on her after a disfiguring accident with his current hieress wife. listen fidelity ( Clinton ) or family issues ( Reagan & son ) have nothing to do with job performance. both were pretty sucessful presidents IMO. if i cheat on my wife or you fight with your brother but go to work and excell what is the difference?
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2741165
Now this is just funny.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...ech-text_x.htm
It's that fundamental belief — I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper — that makes this country work. It's what allows us to pursue our individual dreams, yet still come together as a single American family. "E pluribus unum." Out of many, one. -Obama
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/2741851
low and desperate. he doesnt even know them. and how do we know he hasn't reached out to them. you assume these brothers are dieing to come to America. maybe there happy and content right where they are. maybe he has reached out and they declined. we dont know....
what about McInsanes ex wife? wasn't he cheating on her after a disfiguring accident with his current hieress wife. listen fidelity ( Clinton ) or family issues ( Reagan & son ) have nothing to do with job performance. both were pretty sucessful presidents IMO. if i cheat on my wife or you fight with your brother but go to work and excell what is the difference?
dude, he has met them, he does know them.
I wouldn't pay for his half brothers, in that situation, but then again, I wouldn't say that I'm my brother's keeper while my brother's rent is 12 dollars a year and he is living in a shack in africa.
It is simply funny. But if you can't make fun of a candidate for doing and saying something stupid then
 
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