OMG What Happened?!

blutang

Member
I recently purchased a Golden Stripe Maroon Clown and a Bubble Anemone to replace my Saddleback and Long Tentacle. Well anyways I decided after about 2 weeks of happiness out of the maroon and his anemone to introduce another smaller Golden Stripe Marron in with his, so I could possibly get them to mate up. WELL.....THAT SURE DIDN"T WORK!!!...within about a half a second the two were trying to rip each other apart and they both had some fin damage. Well, needless to say I took the small one back and the larger one I originally had is fine now. What the heck made them fight like that?!
 

blutang

Member
I was told that they should be okay, I guess not, I wish I would have known that so I wouldn't have had to make two trips to the LFS....oh well....you live you learn.
Anyone else have any suggestions or theories.
 

sistrmary

Member
They usually are okay if you add them at the same time, but the larger one was allowed time to get used to being the "man" of the tank...throw an anemone to be territorial, and it only worsens the problem.
Maroon clowns *are* sexually dimorphic, so what happens (typically mind you, not always.) when you put one larger one and one smaller one together at the same time? Since most maroon clowns are born female, the smaller of the two will switch and become a male. The only problem with this is that then you have to wait for the little one to grow up :D
The easiest way I've found to make a mated pair (and this doesn't work all the time, just every lucky once in a while) is to get two clowns greatly varying in size. (One about twice the size of the other) Introduce them at the same time to a decent sized tank (A 55 at least will make the stress of the transition easier on them both) see how they react to each other, if there is any fighting at *all* (because of their cheek spines, they'll often rip each others' mouths...which kills both of them) remove one of them.
If they'll take to each other, they do look a bit like they're fighting, but if you watch them closely, you'll see that they're checking each other out. They'll chase each other around a bit, and then they'll just swim around together. Then, if you have the proper lighting, add the bubbletip anemone. (I've heard they'll take to others, but it's rare, and a whole lot easier to just go with what works in nature.)
The reason you want such a drastic size difference is to not unnerve the larger one. They don't have to be afraid that the little one will take over because it basically knows that it could rip it apart if it wanted to. The reason you add the anemone afterwards is to not give them something to fight about initially. Clownfish are very territorial over anemones. Not just a little, a whole lot...I've seen my tomato take on various lionfish, a marine betta and numerous crabs over her anemone.
Just my experience (But it's a pretty successful amount of experience since I currently own a mated pair of tomato's and a friend of mine has the gold bar maroons)
 

blutang

Member
Yeah, I know clowns are very territorial, however, I figured that the anemone would be a common ground that they both could come to....oh well......the bigger one is well and happy now, guess I won't mess with mother nature again like that.
 

sistrmary

Member
If you have more than one tank you could try it again someday. (When your LFS forgets about this episode so they'll take the little one back if there are problems lol) you could move your big one into the other tank and add the little one at the same time, then if they take move them both to the big one in a week or so. Turn off the lights, put on some Barry White and see what happens :D (Seriously turn off the lights since they're less likely to fight...the barry white is a personal preference :D )
I know it's a bit irritating, but it's very cool when you figure out the right stuff. Very worth it IMO because it's neat as heck to watch.
 
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