Overflows

dlauber

Member
I just cannot understand how they work.
Ive looked through a billion diagrams and read through twice as many paragraphs but I just dont understand them.
I am usually pretty good with understanding concepts but this is jut starting to get rediculous.
Can anyone make some sense of overflows for me?
 

salty blues

Active Member
They work simply by siphoning. Gravity flow pulls water up and over. With drilled tanks, the water just runs out a hole.
 

dlauber

Member
well arent there overflow boxes that are a little more complex.
HOB overflows, I think thats what I meant but there supposed to be something about them where they cant put out more water then can be pumped back into the tank, to prevent floods.
I just cant understand how they work
 

salty blues

Active Member
Originally Posted by Dlauber
well arent there overflow boxes that are a little more complex.
HOB overflows, I think thats what I meant but there supposed to be something about them where they cant put out more water then can be pumped back into the tank, to prevent floods.
I just cant understand how they work
Overflow boxes are really fairly simple. As stated before, they work simply by siphoning. Actually, they can't put out more water than their rating. If you pump in more than the rating of the OFB then you will have a flood. That is why your pump output should be close to, but slightly less than the OFB rating.
 

wingzfan

Member
so salty, would you reccomend a drilled tank or one with overflows? What are the advantages and disadvantages to each?
 

salty blues

Active Member
Originally Posted by wingzfan
so salty, would you reccomend a drilled tank or one with overflows? What are the advantages and disadvantages to each?
Well, drilled tanks are more asthetically pleasing & you won't have to worry about losing siphon, but they are generally more expensive than a non-drilled tank. Some overflow boxes look better than others. I use a CPR Aquatic OFB on my tank. It looks nice & doesn't take up a lot of room inside the tank. You can have a regular tank drilled, but the glass must be non-tempered or it will shatter.
 
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blackaero1

Guest
keep in mind too, that just because an overflow is rated at a certain amount, lets say 1200gph, it may not actually perform at that level. You can do a simple test once all the plumbing is in place by allowing it to flow into a container that is easily measured. Use that to calculate the actual gph flow and then you can make a more informed choice on your return pump. Example: I have a overflow that is rated at 1200 gph, and a return pump rated at 950 gph (about 800gph when you consider the 4 ft it sits below the top of the tank) and it still outperforms my overflow. I have a tee fitting with a ball valve on it so the excess gets put into my fuge. It may sound confusing, but really isn't and its a lot easier to understand once you have it set up. Unfortunately that means your spending money before you know all your system details. There are calculators out there that supposedly calculate the amount of water a given pump will give you if you use "x" diameter piping, have "x" number of elbows, etc.. but I haven't seen anything about them to show how accurate they really are.
As far as drilled or not, just like salty said, drilled usually looks better, but costs more. One option if your somewhat handy would be to make your own overflow and drill the tank yourself (the back glass as the bottom is usually tempered and will shatter if drilled), you can pull it off cheaper than a drilled tank is new and you can design your overflow how you want it to look.
BTW- if you put overflow box into a search engine like google you will get may sources explaining exactly how an overflow works. AS well as tips on how to set the system up with an overflow box.
 
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blackaero1

Guest
Originally Posted by wingzfan
Can you drill acrylic?
yes you can, acrylic is a ton easier to work with than glass actually. I think the only downside to acrylic is that it is easier to scratch than glass is. My sump is acrylic and if I could afford a acrylic tank, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
 
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