Peppermint shrimp and anemones

22caddy

Member
I have a quick question on peppermint shrimp. I know they eat aiptasia, well some do some don't, but what about other anemones. I was thinking of adding one but will it attack my RBTA or anything else. I love my RBTA so if there is any chance of harming him, forget it. He is about 6-7 inches in diameter.
 

aquaman

Member
I one time added an anemone to a tank with 3 peppermint shrimp in it, It did not take long (about 2 min) for them to find it and start to tear it apart. I would not suggest trying any kind with e shrimp, or you will make the same stupid mistake I did.
 
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jacob_poly

Guest
I am curious about this too...if anyone has info please share. I have 6 peppermint shrimp in my tank with 2 BTAs and 1 LTA. I am wondering if the shrmip will harass o rworse try and rip apart my anemone. :confused:
 

thegrog

Active Member
I have some input on this.
I also have a large rose BTA (now about 8 inches when fully out) and it was about 6" when I last had a peppermint shrimp.
I don't know if the shrimp harassed the anemone but I found it one day with several of the anemone's coils around it and it (the shrimp) was struggling for it's life! I quickly freed it but it died the next day.
That was the last peppermint shrimp I had. I need to get another one as I have an aptasia that popped up at the very back-center of my tank at the base of a large rock that supports several others (with corals and anemone) so I can't reach it!
I currently have a skunk cleaner shrimp and two fire shrimp in the tank and they stay clear of the anemone.
That's my 2 cents worth.
GO ILLINI!!!!:cheer:
 

diane4

Member
So, is the general concesus that a Pepermint Shrimp safe for a tank that has mushrooms and BTA inhabitants?
Also, my lfs said that what I have is probably aptasia and not anthelia. He said, if I got the pepermint shrimps, they will eat the aptasia and not the anthelia, if I truly have anthelia.
I wouldn't want to the peppermint shrimp to hassle my bta.
Also, I have been loosing fish in this tank. Does aptasia hurt or kill fish? I bought a tang on the 15th of this month and it died within 1 week. I never saw any ich spots on the fish or anything, just died. Any ideas?
How can I tell the difference for sure between anthelia and aptasia, and are peperming shrimps safe for bta? My bta I recently got is a host for a mated pair of tomatoe clowns, don't want to hurt that situation, but if aptasia is what I have and if it is the cause of me loosing fish, that I need to know that.
Sometimes I wonder if keeping live rock is worth it? Sounds like Aptasia grows in all kinds of places in the tank, if you use the Joes Juice approach, how can you treat areas where you can't reach with a dispenser, but fish can go there, and you don't want to mvoe rock and upset the tank every time you treat some aptasia. I am hoping I have anthelia and not aptasia.
 

aquaman

Member
So, is the general concesus that a Pepermint Shrimp safe for a tank that has mushrooms and BTA inhabitants?IMO no they are not safe to have together. Others may have had some good experiences with them, but it is the nature of these shrimp to eat anomies.
Also, my lfs said that what I have is probably aptasia and not anthelia. He said, if I got the pepermint shrimps, they will eat the aphasia and not the anthelia, if I truly have anthelia.
Again, they will eat all kinds, I love the peppermint shrimp and they are more hardy than an anemone. Plus most peppermint shrimp are tank raised now, so they are not removed from the reef. In contrast most anemones are taken from the reef and are short lived in the trade. I will not try to discourage you, but of the 2 the shrimp have better odds at survival. I am not however an anemone police, if you want one and think you can take care of it go for it, just do your homework first.

I wouldn't want to the peppermint shrimp to hassle my bta.
It will

Also, I have been loosing fish in this tank. Does aphasia hurt or kill fish? I bought a tang on the 15th of this month and it died within 1 week. I never saw any ich spots on the fish or anything, just died. Any ideas?
More info is needed, age and size of the tank, number of other inhabitants, sizes and type , water parameters, and another helpful information. It is okay in this instance to over kill with description, so we can better help.

How can I tell the difference for sure between anthelia and aptasia, and are peperming shrimps safe for bta? My bta I recently got is a host for a mated pair of tomatoe clowns, don't want to hurt that situation, but if aptasia is what I have and if it is the cause of me loosing fish, that I need to know that.
Pick up a book or two from your lfs or better yet from this site on anemones and clowns. The best defense is knowledge, and the best way to get knowledge is to read. I heard a quote once " If you want to hide important information, put it in a book"

Sometimes I wonder if keeping live rock is worth it? Sounds like Aptasia grows in all kinds of places in the tank, if you use the Joes Juice approach, how can you treat areas where you can't reach with a dispenser, but fish can go there, and you don't want to mvoe rock and upset the tank every time you treat some aptasia. I am hoping I have anthelia and not aptasia.
I know there are pros and cons to this subject, but I think ultimately the pros outweigh the cons. A suggestion would be to place the live rock in a sump, and put the base rock in the tank. It will take time, but the base rock will eventually have life growing in and on it.
 

sula

Member
In my experience, if a clown is using the anemone as its host, it'll keep any and all "hasslers" away..
 

diane4

Member
Thank you Aqua man for a very thorough answer to my post. You spent a lot of time on the reply, and I appreciate it. The folks on this site are so helpful and I so much appreciate it. You are the BEST.
I am not going to buy a pepermint shrimp now, thanks for your input. My anemone's are to important to me. I have 2 and wouldn't want them hassled just because I got them to remove aptasia, which I am not sure if thats what I have. Most of the pictures I see of aptasia show an animals that has a center with a circle in it. What I have growing is light brown, has a stem and tentacle that look like they are coming directly from the stem. They appeared when I had my rock about 3 weeks. The rock peice is about 3 months old now, and the animal has reproduced to other parts of the same rock and a couple spots in other places.
Does anthelia reproduce quickly, or is that a sign that it's aptasia. My husband is at a wedding this weekend, so he has the camera. I will post a pic when I get the camera back.
I rechecked my params yesterday.
calcium - 417
amonia, nitrite and nitrate all at .25 or less
SG 1.024
Temp-78
Not sure what happened to the tang. I know this much, she hid alot when we god her. Other than that, she appeared healthy. Not sure.
My 2 tomatoes clowns and their anemone that I got a couple days ago are doing well, no signs of stress or illness there and they are not hiding. I don't know why the yellow tang died.
Thanks for the advice on the peppermint shrimp. Once again, this forum saves my day before I introduce a problem. I hope to be able to help others in the same way someday.
Diane
 

diane4

Member
I have since converted my 50 gallon reef (36" wide) to a 75 gallong reef (48" wide). I have soft corals, rodactus, elephant ear, acropora, xenia, anthelia, BTA, carpet anemone and 4 clowns (2 Tomatoes in the BTA) and 2 false percs in the carpet anemone. The problem is have with effectively using Joes Juice is that aptasia developes in areas where you can't see and it reproduces like made.
When I migrated the tank to the 75, the disturbance of the move caused many of those nasty boys to become loose and free-swimming. I netted out what I could, there was a tone of them, tiny, but strong and ugly.
Joe's Juice is effective if you can see the aptasia and treat it. Still is a pain, have to turn off current, treat the pest and start up again. Constant battle.
Do you think now with the bigger tank, the peppermints would be ok and not disturb the contents of my community? And if you think it's ok, how many? 1 or 2 or what? And if you think that the PS will start munching on my much loved BTA and carpet aneomone or soft polyps, then how can you keep aptasia under control.
I was really freaked out at the quantity that surfaced during the change to the bigger tank and how many. Most were very very smal, but tons of them.
Please help and advise. Thanks.
Diane
 
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dogpoor

Guest
I have a rbta and a lta in my 90 reef with two peppermints along with corals and mushrooms. Have never had any problems. But keep in mind there are 2 different shrimp that they call peppermint shrimp. The Caribbean cleaner shrimp eats aptaisa and is more docile than the pacific cleaner shrimp which is hit and miss with the aptaisa and will attack corals. They also tend to die off fairly quick as they are a cooler water shrimp. But while alive can devestate your corals and shrooms.
 

parameat

Member
I have an atlantic condi and 5 peppermint shrimp and they don't bother it. The most they ever do is try to steal some squid when I feed it.
 

diane4

Member
Parameat, thanks. What kind of Peppermint shrimp are they? I have read that there are a couple different kinds of Peppermint shrimp and one of them does not bother the aneomones, but will eat the aptasia. Do you have a pic of your shrimps? And do they chow on the aptasia? In advance, thanks.
 

james983

Member
My Peppermint Shrimp killed my BTA after he ate all the aptasia. Saw him ripping it to shreds one morning. I was really pissed!!!
 

diane4

Member
I appreciate the info, but again - which type of Peppermint Shrimp - there are several kinds of PS. My hubby read that it is the Atlantic PS is the safe kind. What kind was your PS?
 

lubeck

Active Member
I just bought some PS from this site. I have two of them to munch on my tons of aiptisa. I have had them for 1week and have seen NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO progress.
Oh yeah, they are hosting my carpet anemone. I will have to see what kind they sell here.
 

lubeck

Active Member
Carribean Peppermint shrimp, I do hope these are'nt the kind that eat anemones. I will FREAK OUT.
 

james983

Member
Not sure which type PM it is. LFS just said PM Shrimp. He is a decent size though. I'm thinking of sending him back to LFS so I can get another BTA. I wont risk losing another one.
 

land of fi

New Member
Hi
For what it is worth I bought 5 from this site for my 125. I have a green BTA and the PS have not touched him. It may be due to the 4in Maroon Clown that has claimed the BTA.
 

milomlo

Active Member
Well I am getting a BTA today. I have 1 PS - he is pretty small. I have some hairy mushrooms, leather coral, and a bubble coral and he hasn't touched them. I really hope he does not bother my GBTA I am getting today. I am getting it for my clowns. Hopefully they will take to it.
Does anyone know if tank raised clowns will take to an anemone just as well as wild???
 
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