Petition - Please read - Mods too

[zeke92]

Ok, well this will benefit people with freshwater critters like me and people with agressive fish like..well..people with agressive fish, i don't know any here.
Anyway, lets say you wanna get your octopus crawdads cause you can't afford to buy emerald crabs every feeding (yes i know it's not as good). But, a mod will attack at anyone who tries to sell or buy FW stuff here. But, it is FOR a SW fish.
So, don't you think that, if it's a feeder, it should be allowed?
Lets say i wanna sell some guppies or mollies. But, i havent transfered them to saltwater yet. There going to end up saltwater most likely, but there freshwater RIGHT NOW.
Don't you think whoever should be able to sell those mollies or guppies?

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I run a small business, run by me, everything is at my house, no one else breeds anything that i sell, no one helps collect anything i sell. It's basically me selling it through a website with a name.
Because of this, i can't use the live selling section. Does this sound fair?
It sure doesn't to me. It would be different if someone from an actual business with employees came, posted a link to the website, and was trying to sell there companies livestock. THAT is different.
But just cause a 15 year old kid decided to start a small business he can't sell ANYTHING on this forum.
Another good point:
EVERYONE in live selling section is a 'competitor'. Whether they have a business or not, if there selling a snowflake eel and someone buys it, then they may have just taken away from SWF.com's sale. EVERYONE selling stuff there is a competitor technically. So what is different then me trying to sell something as zeke92, not my business?
I rest both my cases. Please read both petitions thoroughly BEFORE replying. Flaming, well, just don't.

 

[cowfishrule]

this isnt going to last long...

 

[zeke92]

Did you read the entire thing very well? and do you even understand what i'm trying to say?
your post shouldn't last long in my opinion. isn't a post like that considered spam?
i also said this at the bottom but i guess you didn't read or pay attention
Please read both petitions thoroughly BEFORE replying. Flaming, well, just don't.

 

[fats71]

Originally Posted by zeke92
http:///forum/post/2572679
Ok, well this will benefit people with freshwater critters like me and people with agressive fish like..well..people with agressive fish, i don't know any here.
Anyway, lets say you wanna get your octopus crawdads cause you can't afford to buy emerald crabs every feeding (yes i know it's not as good). But, a mod will attack at anyone who tries to sell or buy FW stuff here. But, it is FOR a SW fish.
So, don't you think that, if it's a feeder, it should be allowed?
Lets say i wanna sell some guppies or mollies. But, i havent transfered them to saltwater yet. There going to end up saltwater most likely, but there freshwater RIGHT NOW.
Don't you think whoever should be able to sell those mollies or guppies?

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Another Petition

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I run a small business, run by me, everything is at my house, no one else breeds anything that i sell, no one helps collect anything i sell. It's basically me selling it through a website with a name.
Because of this, i can't use the live selling section. Does this sound fair?
It sure doesn't to me. It would be different if someone from an actual business with employees came, posted a link to the website, and was trying to sell there companies livestock. THAT is different.
But just cause a 15 year old kid decided to start a small business he can't sell ANYTHING on this forum.
Another good point:
EVERYONE in live selling section is a 'competitor'. Whether they have a business or not, if there selling a snowflake eel and someone buys it, then they may have just taken away from SWF.com's sale. EVERYONE selling stuff there is a competitor technically. So what is different then me trying to sell something as zeke92, not my business?
I rest both my cases. Please read both petitions thoroughly BEFORE replying. Flaming, well, just don't.

Rest your case ? I think it is upto the owner of said site to do as they please without explanation.
I would imagine pming a mod with this might have been a better idea.

 

[fats71]

Originally Posted by zeke92
http:///forum/post/2572685
Did you read the entire thing very well? and do you even understand what i'm trying to say?
your post shouldn't last long in my opinion. isn't a post like that considered spam?
i also said this at the bottom but i guess you didn't read or pay attention
Please read both petitions thoroughly BEFORE replying. Flaming, well, just don't.

I read both and I have to say you talk in more circles and babble more than I do and that is pretty bad. I am not flaming you.

 

[coraljunky]

This forum is for hobbyists, not businesses. People who sell here are not looking for any type of profit. NOTHING against you personally.

 

[tangman99]

Zeke92,
I'm all for anyone with a business to be successful, but even though what you are saying doesn't seem like a big deal, it opens the door for others to start doing "similar" things that are against the rules using what you are doing as an argument as to why they should be allowed also. It just becomes a "where do you draw the line" thing that I'm sure they would like to avoid.
Register your site on the search engines and make sure it will hit you when people search for salt water subjects.
Good luck with your business.

 

[zeke92]

I have been messaging a mod and asked if i could make a petition to see what people thought. apparently no one understood what the heck i ment.
and fats just stop please, your being rude, thats all.
There is perfect logic in both petitions if you read them thoroughly and understand them. i'm not doing it just so I can sell FW stuff here and make a ton of profit. i never once said that, although i know everyone here just LOVES to make those assumptions.
i did this so i could get the right to freely use this just like anyone that happens to have a personal fish related website that the mods know about.
i also did this cause i think we should be able to sell mollies and guppies, and freshwater critters that could be used as feeders. if it's saltwater related and can be used in saltwater then it should have the right to be sold here.

 

[coraljunky]

How is it an assumption? The purpose of starting a business is to make a profit. Otherwise it's a charity

 

[fats71]

Originally Posted by zeke92
http:///forum/post/2572703
I have been messaging a mod and asked if i could make a petition to see what people thought. apparently no one understood what the heck i meant.
and fats just stop please, your being rude, thats all.
There is perfect logic in both petitions if you read them thoroughly and understand them. I'm not doing it just so I can sell FW stuff here and make a ton of profit. i never once said that, although i know everyone here just LOVES to make those assumptions.
i did this so i could get the right to freely use this just like anyone that happens to have a personal fish related website that the mods know about.
i also did this cause i think we should be able to sell mollies and guppies, and freshwater critters that could be used as feeders. if it's saltwater related and can be used in saltwater then it should have the right to be sold here.

If you do not want everyones opinions do not post t in a public forum.
The name of this forum is
"SALTWATERFISH.COM I think they pay for that name and pretty much saltwater fish would explain a lot to me as to why your fw fish are not on here.
You can check out some other sites that are non-profit they will gladly post your "business" by the way when you have a business you have a license and I'm curious what state sold a 15 year old a business license as my 8 year old needs to be doing something other than sniffing his fingers...
What you take as rude is simply a rude awakening this is their site they make the rules and your petitions are going to go about as far as my 8 year old can throw me.
I am all for you making some money and doing something positive ,

 

[zeke92]

Originally Posted by TangMan99
http:///forum/post/2572699
Zeke92,
I'm all for anyone with a business to be successful, but even though what you are saying doesn't seem like a big deal, it opens the door for others to start doing "similar" things that are against the rules using what you are doing as an argument as to why they should be allowed also. It just becomes a "where do you draw the line" thing that I'm sure they would like to avoid.
Register your site on the search engines and make sure it will hit you when people search for salt water subjects.
Good luck with your business.
i'm didn't make this petition cause i was lazy and wanted to make money off the selling section...

 

[fats71]

Just FYI, I sell skimmers that I build myself and sumps and working on making my own wave makers. I will not nor would I place them for sale on this site or even petition to do so. Do alittle research and make your own e-commerce site its pretty easy.

 

[tangman99]

Well, I tried to be polite. As I am part of "Everyone Here" so I guess I'm included in making assumptions. I read what you wrote completely. I interpreted it the way I interpreted and I don't agree with you. I think I still have that right . . .
If you post something and ask for peoples opinions, you are going to get people that disagree with you. Hopefully most will be polite when they do. You might not want to attack the ones that don't see it your way. It just makes you look really bad and I don't think you are going to get any support on that alone from this point forward.

 

[fats71]

Originally Posted by zeke92
http:///forum/post/2572736
i'm didn't make this petition cause i was lazy and wanted to make money off the selling section...
If you want people to take you seriously and thoroughly understand and read your posts use the little ABC at the upper right and make sure you are not writing a fragmented sentence.
So in other words write better than me.

 

[zeke92]

WOW
i did not make this petition so i could make lots of money off the live selling and trading section. i thought people would be more supportive about this. being able to get saltwater mollies and guppies, and being able to get freshwater feeders for your saltwater fish from people would be a benefit.
but all ive seen so far is people taking the petition and finding why it's flawed and why it shouldn't happen.
and fats just freaking leave for christs sake. no offense but your posts just keep getting more rude and you know it.

 

[alix2.0]

hey everyone needs to illchay because this is going nowhere.
but think about it zeke, are people really going to want to pay shipping for a couple feeder fish anyways? it would be a lot faster & cheaper to just buy some from the pet supplies plus or ***** or whatever. besides, a lot of the hobbyists that live feed dont want to feed FW fish anyways, as its unhealthy.
while i think that you should be able to use the live selling & trading section, its SWF's rule and its not going to change or go away. theyre a business, and theyve gotta do what theyve gotta do.

 

[zeke92]

Originally Posted by Fats71
http:///forum/post/2572737
Just FYI, I sell skimmers that I build myself and sumps and working on making my own wave makers. I will not nor would I place them for sale on this site or even petition to do so. Do alittle research and make your own e-commerce site its pretty easy.
yes, i have a website, and i never once tried or asked to post it on SWF and never will.
If you want me to take you seriously, then download firefox and you would have noticed a little red line under 'alittle'. It's two words.

 

[fats71]

Originally Posted by zeke92
http:///forum/post/2572745
WOW
i did not make this petition so i could make lots of money off the live selling and trading section. i thought people would be more supportive about this. being able to get saltwater mollies and guppies, and being able to get freshwater feeders for your saltwater fish from people would be a benefit.
but all ive seen so far is people taking the petition and finding why it's flawed and why it shouldn't happen.
and fats just freaking leave for christs sake. no offense but your posts just keep getting more rude and you know it.

You seem to not be able to understannd a lot of emotion that is not seen in "TEXT" You do not know when I am being rude or not. that is your opinion which I myself think is rude to assume that I am doing something that I am not.
You see how that works ?

Rude is me telling you to stop whining like a 4 year old this is not your website no one cares about your freshwater fish or your business take it to someone who cares.

Now that is rude. It is not how I feel but was showing you the difference.

 

[ric maniac]

^ 'nuff said. And I see where you are coming from, but like said earlier it becomes a where to draw the line thing.
And fats you are just egging him on so cut it out... no offense. Be the bigger person. And just as a safeguard from you, I know I don't capitalize or spell everything right

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by zeke92
http:///forum/post/2572745
WOW
i did not make this petition so i could make lots of money off the live selling and trading section. i thought people would be more supportive about this. being able to get saltwater mollies and guppies, and being able to get freshwater feeders for your saltwater fish from people would be a benefit.
but all ive seen so far is people taking the petition and finding why it's flawed and why it shouldn't happen.
and fats just freaking leave for christs sake. no offense but your posts just keep getting more rude and you know it.
As do yours. This site is a business. It is not a place for you to sell from, nor advertise, your own business regardless of what it is. It isn't going to happen.