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zeke92

zeke92

Active Member
No, no one does understand where i'm coming from. And fats is just being rude. No, i can't hear you being rude but whether you think it's rude or not a few things were.
Well i guess forget it all then. No one seems to be supportive about a petition that would benefit the community. And i just love how everything made the ASSUMPTION (yes, assumption) that i just made this petition so i could make more money.
This community isn't what i thought it was.
 
fats71

fats71

Active Member
Originally Posted by ric maniac
http:///forum/post/2572757
^ 'nuff said. And I see where you are coming from, but like said earlier it becomes a where to draw the line thing.
And fats you are just egging him on so cut it out... no offense. Be the bigger person. And just as a safeguard from you, I know I don't capitalize or spell everything right

Oh 100% now your so right.
The thing is however this is publicity for this little fella's sit Me being mean will draw sympathy from the loving caring mothers and men who feel sorry for him. They will then pm him and buy something from him just to make him feel better.
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by zeke92
http:///forum/post/2572763
No, no one does understand where i'm coming from. And fats is just being rude. No, i can't hear you being rude but whether you think it's rude or not a few things were.
Well i guess forget it all then. No one seems to be supportive about a petition that would benefit the community. And i just love how everything made the ASSUMPTION (yes, assumption) that i just made this petition so i could make more money.
This community isn't what i thought it was.
How can we not assume that you are trying to make money? How exactly would it better serve the members of this site?
 
zeke92

zeke92

Active Member
Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2572759
As do yours. This site is a business. It is not a place for you to sell from, nor advertise, your own business regardless of what it is. It isn't going to happen.
Oh...My...God....
Has NO ONE been reading what the hell i've been saying?
the last petition was for the right to sell as zeke92. NOT MY FREAKING BUSINESS.
and you say "nor advertise" when did i ever say anything about freaking advertising my business? this ISN"T ABOUT MY BUSINESS.
for christs sake, none of you know what i'm saying at all do you. you just keep the same thoughts "he just wants to sell his business stuff for money" and crap. thats how lots of forum communities are, but i thought this place was different for a long while.
 
fats71

fats71

Active Member

Originally Posted by zeke92
http:///forum/post/2572769
Oh...My...God....
Has NO ONE been reading what the hell i've been saying?
the last petition was for the right to sell as zeke92. NOT MY FREAKING BUSINESS.
and you say "nor advertise" when did i ever say anything about freaking advertising my business? this ISN"T ABOUT MY BUSINESS.
for christs sake, none of you know what i'm saying at all do you. you just keep the same thoughts "he just wants to sell his business stuff for money" and crap. thats how lots of forum communities are, but i thought this place was different for a long while.
Um you wrote this not anyone else
I run a small business, run by me, everything is at my house, no one else breeds anything that i sell, no one helps collect anything i sell. It's basically me selling it through a website with a name.
Because of this, i can't use the live selling section. Does this sound fair?
It sure doesn't to me. It would be different if someone from an actual business with employees came, posted a link to the website, and was trying to sell there companies livestock. THAT is different.
But just cause a 15 year old kid decided to start a small business he can't sell ANYTHING on this forum.
 
ric maniac

ric maniac

Active Member
Originally Posted by Fats71
http:///forum/post/2572767
Oh 100% now your so right.
The thing is however this is publicity for this little fella's sit Me being mean will draw sympathy from the loving caring mothers and men who feel sorry for him. They will then pm him and buy something from him just to make him feel better.
awwww.... you didn't notice the "bigger person" pun... since your name is fats.... bad joke lol.
 
fats71

fats71

Active Member
Using profanities at 15 is not a good business decision. Especially when your trying to snag business off another persons website.
 
fats71

fats71

Active Member
Originally Posted by ric maniac
http:///forum/post/2572776
awwww.... you didn't notice the "bigger person" pun... since your name is fats.... bad joke lol.
Dude thats great and made me lol I did miss it though need to clean out my eyes.
 
zeke92

zeke92

Active Member
Originally Posted by Fats71
http:///forum/post/2572767
Oh 100% now your so right.
The thing is however this is publicity for this little fella's sit Me being mean will draw sympathy from the loving caring mothers and men who feel sorry for him. They will then pm him and buy something from him just to make him feel better.
...no comment

How can we not assume that you are trying to make money? How exactly would it better serve the members of this site?
Why do you guys still keep thinking that it's just about ME making money? this is so people can sell freshwater feeders, AND freshwater fish that can be transfered into saltwater aswell (like guppies, mollies, and any others i don't know about).
It was never about making tons of money by selling 'business stuff' through my business and 'advertising' as you guys STILL seem to think.
Just the right to sell my stuff that i happen to ALSO have BESIDES saltwater fish. And the right to sell anything since i just so happen to have a website.
and to the 'when to draw the line'. my business is just me..eveyrone here knows me (in a virtual means) and that i have freshwater fish that i breed alongside my saltwater fish. If the mods knew of someones website they would know if they were just someone who happened to have a website to make enough money to keep in the hobby, OR if they were a business and a threat.
there is a difference between
1. Someone that started a business/website to sell some extra fish/corals/etc to make enough money to keep in the hobby.
2. Someone who started a business, has employees, large website, sells lots of stuff, big warehouse, etc.
But if the mods don't know if the person has a website, there not gonna know anyway. If this petition is passed or not, there still not gonna know if the person is selling here with a large business or not, so really, fi they KNOW they have a website they can check it out and see, but if not it won't make a difference.
And yes that last paragraph was a little bit of ramble but made sense if you can understand it.
 
zeke92

zeke92

Active Member
i never knew how the people here would be like this. i'm really surprised. maby it's just the seahorse people that are nice.
i'm leaving for now. if i don't come back then this is my leave.
thanks to everyone that was sooo nice and helpful.
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by zeke92
http:///forum/post/2572793
...no comment

Why do you guys still keep thinking that it's just about ME making money? this is so people can sell freshwater feeders, AND freshwater fish that can be transfered into saltwater aswell (like guppies, mollies, and any others i don't know about).
It was never about making tons of money by selling 'business stuff' through my business and 'advertising' as you guys STILL seem to think.
Just the right to sell my stuff that i happen to ALSO have BESIDES saltwater fish. And the right to sell anything since i just so happen to have a website.
and to the 'when to draw the line'. my business is just me..eveyrone here knows me (in a virtual means) and that i have freshwater fish that i breed alongside my saltwater fish. If the mods knew of someones website they would know if they were just someone who happened to have a website to make enough money to keep in the hobby, OR if they were a business and a threat.
there is a difference between
1. Someone that started a business/website to sell some extra fish/corals/etc to make enough money to keep in the hobby.
2. Someone who started a business, has employees, large website, sells lots of stuff, big warehouse, etc.
But if the mods don't know if the person has a website, there not gonna know anyway. If this petition is passed or not, there still not gonna know if the person is selling here with a large business or not, so really, fi they KNOW they have a website they can check it out and see, but if not it won't make a difference.
And yes that last paragraph was a little bit of ramble but made sense if you can understand it.
The mods can tell if someone is selling for business means or if they are a hobbyist by the frequency of their selling posts. The bottom line is that this is a saltwater site, not freshwater, and selling for your own profit is not allowed. It isn't just you, it goes for everyone.
 
matt b

matt b

Active Member
Originally Posted by zeke92
http:///forum/post/2572679
Ok, well this will benefit people with freshwater critters like me and people with agressive fish like..well..people with agressive fish, i don't know any here.
Anyway, lets say you wanna get your octopus crawdads cause you can't afford to buy emerald crabs every feeding (yes i know it's not as good). But, a mod will attack at anyone who tries to sell or buy FW stuff here. But, it is FOR a SW fish.
So, don't you think that, if it's a feeder, it should be allowed?
Lets say i wanna sell some guppies or mollies. But, i havent transfered them to saltwater yet. There going to end up saltwater most likely, but there freshwater RIGHT NOW.
Don't you think whoever should be able to sell those mollies or guppies?

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I run a small business, run by me, everything is at my house, no one else breeds anything that i sell, no one helps collect anything i sell. It's basically me selling it through a website with a name.
Because of this, i can't use the live selling section. Does this sound fair?
It sure doesn't to me. It would be different if someone from an actual business with employees came, posted a link to the website, and was trying to sell there companies livestock. THAT is different.
But just cause a 15 year old kid decided to start a small business he can't sell ANYTHING on this forum.
Another good point:
EVERYONE in live selling section is a 'competitor'. Whether they have a business or not, if there selling a snowflake eel and someone buys it, then they may have just taken away from SWF.com's sale. EVERYONE selling stuff there is a competitor technically. So what is different then me trying to sell something as zeke92, not my business?
I rest both my cases. Please read both petitions thoroughly BEFORE replying. Flaming, well, just don't.
If you are a business you dont bring it up and say hi I am another business can I sell stuff on your site without giving you anything? This is a SWF forum. Why do you want to sell cheap feeders anyway? It cost like what 10 bucks at most for the feeders and how much for shipping? Sorry if that sounds rude
The live selling is for people to frag stuff out of there tank and share it with others NOT for a FW business.
 
fats71

fats71

Active Member
Originally Posted by zeke92
http:///forum/post/2572796
i never knew how the people here would be like this. i'm really surprised. maby it's just the seahorse people that are nice.
i'm leaving for now. if i don't come back then this is my leave.
thanks to everyone that was sooo nice and helpful.
You tend to think that a petition for a business is a democracy and it is not.
I will make a hypothetical.
I post say a solar flare fixture ( I want one by the way) in the class section. I give all the specs etc brand new in box never opened and still have the warranty.
I then post another and another and another. I would apparently be selling them as to make a profit and the mods would see after a couple times of me selling the same things or having lots of different things for sale on the site and know what I was doing. While you think the mods are dumb I assure you they are not. They know who is doing what.
 
matt b

matt b

Active Member
Originally Posted by Fats71
http:///forum/post/2572743
If you want people to take you seriously and thoroughly understand and read your posts use the little ABC at the upper right and make sure you are not writing a fragmented sentence.
So in other words write better than me.
 
zeke92

zeke92

Active Member
oh look, everyone still thinks i'm trying to make money from my business. no one seems to understand what i'm saying. i'm NOT trying to get my business in the live selling section. why do you all keep bringing it up. it's just hilarious how it just keeps coming up.
i never once said "hi I am another business can I sell stuff on your site" like matt said and like everyone seems to think i said.
 
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