Picasso Trigger and a Lion?

[chadg]

I'm about to upgrade one of my tanks up to a 55 gallon corner type from a small 15gal. The only thing in there is live sand and rock, a clown fish and Picasso Trigger.
Once I get the bigger tank, would I be able to add a lion fish safely? Will the three get along do you think? Am I limited to a dwarf lion with that setup?
Thanks for any advise...

 

[prime311]

A 55 gallon is too small for a Picasso Trigger alone. I don't think any size tank is good for putting a Lion with one of the more violent Triggers like a Picasso. A 55 can house a dwarf Lion with other similar sized but less violent fish like a Maroon Clown for example.

 

[bpro32]

also remember even a dwarf lion will eat a small clownfish. Maroons would be ok
putting a lion and trigger together is always a gamble

 

[jennln]

Not a great idea and I've got a picasso and dwarf lion in my tank together right now. (Along with a clown trig ) Had I known when making the purchases what I have learned since then, I never would have put them together as tankmates. Right now the triggers couldn't care less about the lion, but I think that since (a) the lion was there first and (b) the lion is still bigger than the triggers it has a lot to do with it. I have a 50 gallon in my dining room that was set up about a week ago - still cycling but that is to be the home of my dwarf lion. Once I learned that these fish don't mix we made the necessary preparations. As I said, right now, they don't bother each other one bit, but I know it's just a matter of time and I'm pushing my luck with each day that passes.

 

[chadg]

Sounds like the two will not go over very well then... Thanks for the advise. The trigger has been in it's current tank (15 gal) for about 5 years now, so I'm sure he will be excited at least.
Any other ideas on what would make a good tank mate then for these two? I'd like to add one more after the upgrade.

 

[crypt keeper]

You had a trigger in a 15 gallon tank for 5 years? Please take pictures of this new breed of dwarf trigger fish please. I put 1 in a 30 gallon for about 5 minutes then put him in the current 90. Its only 3 inches long right now. Im planning on a 150 or 180 in the near near future.

 

[krazykarel]

I'd like to see pics. How big is your trigger and how big was it when you purchased him? I know that the size of tanks contribute to growth and Picassos are known to grow slowly.

 

[chadg]

I'll take some pics tonight and post them. I would say he is about 3 maybe 4 inches. He has probably doubled in size over the last 5 years, but most of the growth was probably in the first 2-3....

 

[prime311]

Size of tank shouldn't affect growth of saltwater fish. They are only limited by diet. Maybe Chagd did get the elusive dwarf Triggerfish.

 

[florida joe]

triggers and lions are not Compatible

 

[chadg]

Here is the amazing dwarf trigger! There is a pic of the whole tank and a close up. He is hiding a bit in the close up, but that is a Korella nano powerhead so you can get a good sense of his size....
I try to feed him as much as possible, but he almost never stops eating. Although I did over feed him some fresh scallops one night and he stayed hiding in his cave for two days. I really thought he was going to die, I'm glad he pulled though though. I guess I'll have to think of another tank mate for him though... Thanks for all the advise.

 

[small triggers]

OMG thank god you got some sense and put him in a bigger tank,, what did he look like a goldfish in a bowl in that 15g or what??? I felt so sorry for a betta we got out of an apt we put it in a 7g,,,, If you want to put another fish with it,, youd better get a 150 ish,,, even that 55 will get to small for the 1 trigger by himself soon enough

 

[chadg]

Originally Posted by small triggers
http:///forum/post/2902487
OMG thank god you got some sense and put him in a bigger tank,, what did he look like a goldfish in a bowl in that 15g or what??? I felt so sorry for a betta we got out of an apt we put it in a 7g,,,, If you want to put another fish with it,, youd better get a 150 ish,,, even that 55 will get to small for the 1 trigger by himself soon enough
NO, those are pictures of him in the 15 Gal tank. I have not upgraded yet!

 

[prime311]

That does not look like a 15 gallon tank. A 15 gallon is usually 2' x 1' x 1' and the length of that tank is more then 2x then height. It could possibly be a 20 gallon long, but I'd like to know the measurements. My bet is its a 30 gallon breeder(36" x 18" x 12")

 

[krazykarel]

That tank does look bigger than 15...what are the measurements? Btw....the fish looks good.

 

[chadg]

I just measured it and it is 12 x 30 x12. From an on line calculator I found brings me to about 18 gal. Give or take I guess it would be considered a 20 gal tank. So, a bit bigger than I thought, but still too small for these guys.
So, if a lion is out, what would make a good tank mate when the 55 gal comes? He is a pretty non-aggressive trigger. He always hides when I have my hand in there and never bothers the clown. I guess another fish may be a different story though....

 

[crypt keeper]

Sell the 55 save up some more money and pick up a 75 atleast. They can be found all day long on your local Craigslist. We can preach all day long that you dont have a big enough tank. You obviously wont listen cause you stuck that poor fish in a tin can.
I dont want to be the butt head but dude. Come on now. You have an algae issue. Its over taking your rock. That fish is a swimmer. It has no where to go. I mean you have kept it alive the past 5 years in that tank. It cant be happy. Maybe that has to do with is slow growth. Its probably stressed the hell out. I know all fish have a different personalities but if you look on this website most Humu Humu Triggers are terrors. Mine in just the 6 months I have had it I can damn near pet him. He will nip at my fingers thinking Im food. Your's swims and hide. I have had my clown fish for a moth. 1 I have had for two weeks. They swim to the top of the tank when I open the top to feed them.
Put a snail in there and get that algae issue taken care of. Where is the clown?
Either give that fish a correct place to live and swim or get rid of it. Its no different than having a Great Dane in a 1 bedroom apartment. Would you do that?

 

[jp30338]

Originally Posted by crypt keeper
http:///forum/post/2904161
Sell the 55 save up some more money and pick up a 75 atleast. They can be found all day long on your local Craigslist. We can preach all day long that you dont have a big enough tank. You obviously wont listen cause you stuck that poor fish in a tin can.
I dont want to be the butt head but dude. Come on now. You have an algae issue. Its over taking your rock. That fish is a swimmer. It has no where to go. I mean you have kept it alive the past 5 years in that tank. It cant be happy. Maybe that has to do with is slow growth. Its probably stressed the hell out. I know all fish have a different personalities but if you look on this website most Humu Humu Triggers are terrors. Mine in just the 6 months I have had it I can damn near pet him. He will nip at my fingers thinking Im food. Your's swims and hide. I have had my clown fish for a moth. 1 I have had for two weeks. They swim to the top of the tank when I open the top to feed them.
Put a snail in there and get that algae issue taken care of. Where is the clown?
Either give that fish a correct place to live and swim or get rid of it. Its no different than having a Great Dane in a 1 bedroom apartment. Would you do that?
Quite harsh but I must agree here

 

[sepulatian]

This is my 15 gallon QT. The rock that is in there is about 5x3" The sponge filters are 3x3x3 triangles...
I have kept a pair of clowns in there for not quite a year but anything else was tired of the tank within two to three months.

 

[crypt keeper]

uhhhh?