please tell me what YOU would do....

lietz06

lietz06

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....besides have qt'd them, lol! I think i have ich, have seen white spots that look raised on the skin and fins of my purple, hippo and powder blue tang. sometimes when i look in there it's on them, sometimes it's not, but i know it can't be sand or something. the hippo rubs on the rocks. i have 2 10 gallon tanks in the shed. should i try n catch them n just throw em in the 10 gallons with water from the dt? should i try n cycle the 10 gallons? how should i do that if you think that's how i should do it & will it take too long? is 2 10 gallons going to be enough for them? I had a coral beauty n put in a 10 gallon when it got ich once i started treatment it died the next day. i don't know if that's bc i just threw the hospital tank together or what. or should i try n take my inverts out n put them in the 10 gallons...? i can't put all of my fish n leave the dt fishless for 6 weeks...i KNOW they all couldn't fit in the 2 10s. please give me some advice...my husband will kill me if these 3 fish die!
 
flower

flower

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Originally Posted by lietz06
http:///forum/post/3084746
....besides have qt'd them, lol! I think i have ich, have seen white spots that look raised on the skin and fins of my purple, hippo and powder blue tang. sometimes when i look in there it's on them, sometimes it's not, but i know it can't be sand or something. the hippo rubs on the rocks. i have 2 10 gallon tanks in the shed. should i try n catch them n just throw em in the 10 gallons with water from the dt? should i try n cycle the 10 gallons? how should i do that if you think that's how i should do it & will it take too long? is 2 10 gallons going to be enough for them? I had a coral beauty n put in a 10 gallon when it got ich once i started treatment it died the next day. i don't know if that's bc i just threw the hospital tank together or what. or should i try n take my inverts out n put them in the 10 gallons...? i can't put all of my fish n leave the dt fishless for 6 weeks...i KNOW they all couldn't fit in the 2 10s. please give me some advice...my husband will kill me if these 3 fish die!


A raised white dot might not be ich...on this site there is a post explaining the different diseases...pictures and everything...look on that before deciding it must be ich...
 
nina&noah

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Which of the fish are new? If they have ich it is because something is stressing them out. Find the source of the stress and it could help. Also, although it is very controversial, I have had alot of success with feeding garlic.
 
mkroher

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Originally Posted by nina&noah
http:///forum/post/3085373
Which of the fish are new? If they have ich it is because something is stressing them out. Find the source of the stress and it could help. Also, although it is very controversial, I have had alot of success with feeding garlic.

um... if they have ich, it's because the parasite is in the tank.
since when does garlic kill ich?
if you had success with garlic, maybe you didn't have ich.
 
valgae

valgae

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what type of tank is your DT? fish only? if you do have some coral could you move those to the 10g's and do hypo in your DT?
 
lietz06

lietz06

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Originally Posted by nina&noah
http:///forum/post/3085373
Which of the fish are new? If they have ich it is because something is stressing them out. Find the source of the stress and it could help. Also, although it is very controversial, I have had alot of success with feeding garlic.
All of the fish that have ick are brand new. i ordered 4 tangs and put them in at the same time, the yellow tang is the only one not showing any signs of it. I have them in a 200 gallon. I would like to try feeding garlic, hopefully that'll help, unfortuantly we don't have any fish stores near so i have to order it offline.
 
lietz06

lietz06

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Originally Posted by VALgae
http:///forum/post/3085378
what type of tank is your DT? fish only? if you do have some coral could you move those to the 10g's and do hypo in your DT?
I have a 200 gallon i guess it would be considered reef bc i have a few inverts. snails, hermits, 3 anemones, sea urchin and a starfish. do you think that would be my best bet? have you ever don hypo....is it hard, will it be hard to get sg down so low on a 200?
 
mkroher

mkroher

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Originally Posted by lietz06
http:///forum/post/3085461
All of the fish that have ick are brand new. i ordered 4 tangs and put them in at the same time, the yellow tang is the only one not showing any signs of it. I have them in a 200 gallon. I would like to try feeding garlic, hopefully that'll help, unfortuantly we don't have any fish stores near so i have to order it offline.
first of all.. you THINK you have ich.
you claim sometimes the spots are there, but sometimes they're not? At what time interval do you notice this? Do you know the life cycle of ich?
feeding them garlic is not going to cure the ich problem.
 
salt210

salt210

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Originally Posted by lietz06
http:///forum/post/3085466
I have a 200 gallon i guess it would be considered reef bc i have a few inverts. snails, hermits, 3 anemones, sea urchin and a starfish. do you think that would be my best bet? have you ever don hypo....is it hard, will it be hard to get sg down so low on a 200?
it might be alittle costly with the salt that will be used. you could try it in a different tank/ tub. might be easier that way
 
salt210

salt210

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Originally Posted by mkroher
http:///forum/post/3085474
first of all.. you THINK you have ich.
you claim sometimes the spots are there, but sometimes they're not? At what time interval do you notice this? Do you know the life cycle of ich?
feeding them garlic is not going to cure the ich problem.
the garlic is used to strengthen the fished immune system to help them fight the parasite
 
tinderly

tinderly

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This doesn't help for the current problem, but just for future adventures. I have had lots of success with doing freshwater dips on fish that are known ich magnets such as the tangs. I gave our Sailfin a freshwater dip before adding her to our MT. We set up a 10g tank of freshwater and placed her in. We let her stay in there for about 20 minutes (I sat and watched her the whole time, monitoring for stress). Then just put her in the MT. Never had any health issues with her.
 
mkroher

mkroher

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Originally Posted by lietz06
http:///forum/post/3085466
I have a 200 gallon i guess it would be considered reef bc i have a few inverts. snails, hermits, 3 anemones, sea urchin and a starfish. do you think that would be my best bet? have you ever don hypo....is it hard, will it be hard to get sg down so low on a 200?
you can't do hypo on that tank because it will kill your inverts.
 
lietz06

lietz06

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Originally Posted by mkroher
http:///forum/post/3085474
first of all.. you THINK you have ich.
you claim sometimes the spots are there, but sometimes they're not? At what time interval do you notice this? Do you know the life cycle of ich?
feeding them garlic is not going to cure the ich problem.
yeah, i do think....but it looks like the discription of ich. it looks like sand on them...but inbedded under their skin. I don't know why it comes n goes, sometimes i see quite a few spots on my powder blue sometimes its only like 5 or 6 spots are really visble. I don't really know time intervals, I know I notice more on the powder blue in the mornings when i turn the lights on and am feeding them. I've read about the cycle, like they're in the first stage since you can see em on it. I wasn't expecting it to cure the whole tank i was just thinking maybe if it raised their immune systems up maybe it would help them fight it.
 
lietz06

lietz06

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Originally Posted by mkroher
http:///forum/post/3085487
you can't do hypo on that tank because it will kill your inverts.
Yeah, i was thinkin bout maybe tankin the inverts out n puttin them in a 10 gallon and treating the dt....what do you think?
 
mkroher

mkroher

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Originally Posted by lietz06
http:///forum/post/3085502
Yeah, i was thinkin bout maybe tankin the inverts out n puttin them in a 10 gallon and treating the dt....what do you think?
it'll be MUCH easier to do hypo on a 10-20 gallon tank. You will need an insane amount of water to bring down your SG to 1.009 on that 200gal.
I just did hypo on my 29 gallon. it took me a week with 3-5gallon water changes. I can't imagine what it'll be like for a 200
 
fishkid13

fishkid13

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Originally Posted by mkroher
http:///forum/post/3085492
sure.. but it doesn't solve the problem.
Somebody really doesn't like garlic, not saying their is anything wrong with that.
Once you get the ick "gone" try dosing with garlic, a local reefer dosed his when he saw signs and when he added a new fish, said it worked wonders. Plus he gave a tip that if you have your refugium light on when the DT is off it will help with ph fulcuations which might be why you mostly see the spots in the morining.
 
xcali1985

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Ive seen ICH cured with fresh water baths and soaking their food in garlic to improve immune system. It is absolutly critical to quarantine any ill fish. Most fish can fight off ich but if their is a member who cant it will allow the parasite to feed and multiply they can only fight them off so long if their numbers are growing.
 
mkroher

mkroher

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Originally Posted by fishkid13
http:///forum/post/3085759
Somebody really doesn't like garlic, not saying their is anything wrong with that.
I didn't say I don't like garlic.
I'm saying garlic is not the "be all end all" solution to ich.
 
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