pods and live rotifers from this site
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snakeblitz33
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Nothing's really wrong with the forum, we've just never tested the hypothesis...
Try it and see? Take out your microscope?
Try it and see? Take out your microscope?
bang guy
Moderator
Bagged Rotifers can usually survive 2 or 3 days without food.
What you are attempting can be done easily but it requires patience. Purchasing your Rotifers and your Clownfish first and then asking how to take care of them isn't going to work.
Early on I advised you to buy the book Clownfishes to study. You bought Rotifers and a Clownfish pair and THEN bought the book. That's completely backwards. Now your wondering how to feed the Rotifers and just now setting up a tank for your Clownfish, again, you did it backwards.
If you don't have the patience to progress from one step to the next you have no chance of being successful.
My advice for you right now is to forget about greenwater and forget about your Rotifers and focus on keeping your Clownfish pair alive, they are in great jeopardy and their chance of survival is now questionable.
Sorry if I'm blunt but it's not going to work if you're not willing to listen to advice.
What you are attempting can be done easily but it requires patience. Purchasing your Rotifers and your Clownfish first and then asking how to take care of them isn't going to work.
Early on I advised you to buy the book Clownfishes to study. You bought Rotifers and a Clownfish pair and THEN bought the book. That's completely backwards. Now your wondering how to feed the Rotifers and just now setting up a tank for your Clownfish, again, you did it backwards.
If you don't have the patience to progress from one step to the next you have no chance of being successful.
My advice for you right now is to forget about greenwater and forget about your Rotifers and focus on keeping your Clownfish pair alive, they are in great jeopardy and their chance of survival is now questionable.
Sorry if I'm blunt but it's not going to work if you're not willing to listen to advice.
coral keeper
Active Member
Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2619714
Bagged Rotifers can usually survive 2 or 3 days without food.
What you are attempting can be done easily but it requires patience. Purchasing your Rotifers and your Clownfish first and then asking how to take care of them isn't going to work.
Early on I advised you to buy the book Clownfishes to study. You bought Rotifers and a Clownfish pair and THEN buoght the book. That's completely backwards. Now your wondering how to feed the Rotifers and just now setting up a tank for your Clownfish, again, you did it backwards.
If you don't have the patience to progress from one step to the next you have no chance of being successful.
My advice for you right now is to forget about greenwater and forget about your Rotifers and focus on keeping your Clownfish pair alive, they are in great jeopardy and their chance of survival is now questionable.
Sorry if I'm blunt but it's not going to work if you're not willing to listen to advice.
+1
http:///forum/post/2619714
Bagged Rotifers can usually survive 2 or 3 days without food.
What you are attempting can be done easily but it requires patience. Purchasing your Rotifers and your Clownfish first and then asking how to take care of them isn't going to work.
Early on I advised you to buy the book Clownfishes to study. You bought Rotifers and a Clownfish pair and THEN buoght the book. That's completely backwards. Now your wondering how to feed the Rotifers and just now setting up a tank for your Clownfish, again, you did it backwards.
If you don't have the patience to progress from one step to the next you have no chance of being successful.
My advice for you right now is to forget about greenwater and forget about your Rotifers and focus on keeping your Clownfish pair alive, they are in great jeopardy and their chance of survival is now questionable.
Sorry if I'm blunt but it's not going to work if you're not willing to listen to advice.
+1
espkh9
Member
i read the entire book clownfishes cover to cover by joyce wilkersson before i got the fish on thurs the fish came thurs as the book did...i reearched b4 and had all equipment i needed for this project...i made 1 mistake i assumed phytoplex was phytoplanktn...and i had 4 gallons of it...thats it then i acclimated them into a 10 gallon tank sepulation who is very smart informed me that im stuffing them in a 10 gallon which was contrary to many professionals breeding sites refrences from the back of the book clownfishes who said its fine also from other reputable sites and the ppl who i know breed clowishes in 10 gallon tanks who said its better to have them alone in a 10 gallon then with 200 inverts including snails hermits crabs etc.. other fish...that can harm the eggs..anyways the rule is you must listen to sep. so i did . they are now in my 125 reef i did not work backwards i got the books first the equipment second then got the fish its not my fault im not that smart and do not understand everything i have questions many; after the reading the book im reading it again.
sepulatian
Moderator
Cleaver little dig there. You left out the part about the ammonia in the ten gallon being 3ppm.
bang guy
Moderator
I'm actually just trying to help. First things first, take care of your Clownfish. Get your Clownfish healthy.
In my opinion a 10 is OK for a pair of Ocellaris. Not for most Clownfish but it's at the extreme small side for Ocellaris. A 10 is way too small for an Anemone. The problem isn't the size of the fish, it's water quality. As you've found out a 10 gallon can become polluted in minutes. The good news is that a 100% water change is easy to do.
Work on becomming a good caretaker for your Clownfish and then once they are breeding take the next step.
Not the next 5 steps, just take one more step.
In my opinion a 10 is OK for a pair of Ocellaris. Not for most Clownfish but it's at the extreme small side for Ocellaris. A 10 is way too small for an Anemone. The problem isn't the size of the fish, it's water quality. As you've found out a 10 gallon can become polluted in minutes. The good news is that a 100% water change is easy to do.
Work on becomming a good caretaker for your Clownfish and then once they are breeding take the next step.
Not the next 5 steps, just take one more step.
espkh9
Member
Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2620034
Cleaver little dig there. You left out the part about the ammonia in the ten gallon being 3ppm.
careful.. you wouldnt want me to share with all your loyal fans the terrible wrong advice you gave me against 3 huge companies that specialized in breeding clowns and against ppl who have experience in this unlike yourself.
just be careful nobody knows everything sepulation.
i can also do a 10 gallon water change 100% water change in 8 minutes.
i'm used to much LARGER tanks like 125 reefs and 210's
http:///forum/post/2620034
Cleaver little dig there. You left out the part about the ammonia in the ten gallon being 3ppm.
careful.. you wouldnt want me to share with all your loyal fans the terrible wrong advice you gave me against 3 huge companies that specialized in breeding clowns and against ppl who have experience in this unlike yourself.
just be careful nobody knows everything sepulation.
i can also do a 10 gallon water change 100% water change in 8 minutes.
i'm used to much LARGER tanks like 125 reefs and 210's
sepulatian
Moderator
Alright, let's put it all out there https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/321541/ammonia-spike-what-to-do Here is the thread about your high ammonia in a ten gallon tank that you did not cycle before expecting a pair of clowns to breed in them.
Here is my response to one of the MANY PM's that you sent to me regarding this.
Are you trying to convince me or yourself that this will work? I seriously don't know what you want from any of us. I have told you that before. You ask for advice and then tell us what your "reputable" sources say. They are full of crap if they are telling you that a ten gallon is good for these fish. They are not going to spawn because they will be highly stressed. PM Bang guy. He breeds clownfish among others. Ask him if you do not believe me. The ten is great for fry, but not for a new breeding pair. You let them breed in the display, then put the eggs in the ten. The ten would have to be cycled first. Water from the display does not cycle a tank.
I stopped replying to your PM's because they are highly inappropriate.
Bang said above
In my opinion a 10 is OK for a pair of Ocellaris. Not for most Clownfish but it's at the extreme small side for Ocellaris. A 10 is way too small for an Anemone. The problem isn't the size of the fish, it's water quality. As you've found out a 10 gallon can become polluted in minutes. The good news is that a 100% water change is easy to do.
Work on becomming a good caretaker for your Clownfish and then once they are breeding take the next step.
Not the next 5 steps, just take one more step.
So what advice was so wrong? You threw fish into an uncycled tank. IMO 10 gallons is too small for fish that were originally stated to be a total of 5 1/4 inches. If the tank were mature with excellent filtration then that would be different. Expecting them to breed in that tank with foul water quality does not make sense to me. You can stop with the threats and the nasty PM's. I didn't cost you money, you did.
Here is my response to one of the MANY PM's that you sent to me regarding this.
Are you trying to convince me or yourself that this will work? I seriously don't know what you want from any of us. I have told you that before. You ask for advice and then tell us what your "reputable" sources say. They are full of crap if they are telling you that a ten gallon is good for these fish. They are not going to spawn because they will be highly stressed. PM Bang guy. He breeds clownfish among others. Ask him if you do not believe me. The ten is great for fry, but not for a new breeding pair. You let them breed in the display, then put the eggs in the ten. The ten would have to be cycled first. Water from the display does not cycle a tank.
I stopped replying to your PM's because they are highly inappropriate.
Bang said above
In my opinion a 10 is OK for a pair of Ocellaris. Not for most Clownfish but it's at the extreme small side for Ocellaris. A 10 is way too small for an Anemone. The problem isn't the size of the fish, it's water quality. As you've found out a 10 gallon can become polluted in minutes. The good news is that a 100% water change is easy to do.
Work on becomming a good caretaker for your Clownfish and then once they are breeding take the next step.
Not the next 5 steps, just take one more step.
So what advice was so wrong? You threw fish into an uncycled tank. IMO 10 gallons is too small for fish that were originally stated to be a total of 5 1/4 inches. If the tank were mature with excellent filtration then that would be different. Expecting them to breed in that tank with foul water quality does not make sense to me. You can stop with the threats and the nasty PM's. I didn't cost you money, you did.
coral keeper
Active Member
I 100% agree with sepulatian. Espkh9 asks lots of questions and then we give him our advise and then he tell us what his "reputable" sources say... Then why ask?
bang guy
Moderator
Just to put another $0.02 worth in, a 29 gallon for the Clownfish pair would increase your chances of success 1000%.
Growing greenwater takes practice and is a skill of its own. That the main reason why I use Instant Algae. If you're going that route then practice growing greenwater once your Clownfish are settled. When you have that mastered THEN it's time to buy some Rotifers.
Growing greenwater takes practice and is a skill of its own. That the main reason why I use Instant Algae. If you're going that route then practice growing greenwater once your Clownfish are settled. When you have that mastered THEN it's time to buy some Rotifers.