pop eye

min12512

min12512

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i have an arc eye hawk fish with pop eye. when i treated it with a liquid bacteria(forgot which one) my long nose butterfly fish died. i used the bacteria for about one week give or take a day and havent used it since my butterfly fish died. the arc eye still has pop eye, it doesnt bother him....eats and swims fine. should i try treatint it again and if so what product do you recomend.
 
lion_crazz

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How long have you had this fish?
Is it only in one eye?
What are you feeding the fish? Using any garlic or vitamins in the fish's food?
WHat are your tank levels? (ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, salinity, temp, pH, alkalinity)
 
min12512

min12512

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my amonia and nitrites are at 0. nitrates about 40. ph is 8.1. and salinity is within range. i feed the arc eye frozen fish(forget what kind)....its all he eats. the other fish....pacific blue tang...2 damsels...2 angel fish....and 2 clown fish...
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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Well, you did not answer if it was only one eye, how long you have had the fish, and you did not tell me whether you were using garlic or vitamins. Also, you did not state what your salinity, temp, and alkalinity was. These are all important things for me to try and help you.
Your nirates are a little bit on the high side, and that could be why he is being a finicky eater. Hawkfish are not usually finicky at all.
 
mrme123

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sorry about using this thread. Just wanted to tell Lion thanks for all the help. After using the Garlic my blue hippo has been ich free for a month now. Thanks lion
 
lion_crazz

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Originally Posted by Mrme123
sorry about using this thread. Just wanted to tell Lion thanks for all the help. After using the Garlic my blue hippo has been ich free for a month now. Thanks lion
No problem, I am glad that I could help! :happyfish
 
min12512

min12512

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sorry...it is only one eye...ive had him about 4 months.....no garlic or vitamins....i use the scale to check salinity and its within range(not sure the exact number)....dont know how to check alkalinity...temp is about 78 to 80. thanx for any help.
 
lion_crazz

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Okay, well first thing, I would definitely begin using garlic and vitamins. These will give your fish a stronger immune system and at least help the fish get nutrients (since it is not really getting much from just eating one type of food). Good vitamin supplements include Zoe, Selcon, and VitaChem. Kent Marine makes a galric additive called Garlic Extreme, or you could use fresh garlic that you would buy from the grocery store.
Also, you really need to know an exact number for your salinity. Within a range is not a good thing because salinity fluctuations can be very stressful for your fish. Most hydrometers put the safe range between 1.020 and 1.025. If your salinity is within range and a different number every week, this could be stressing your fish out greatly.
Also, alkalinity can be tested with an alkalinity or kH test kit. Alk/kH is very important because it tells you how stable your pH is. Your pH may be 8.1, but if you have a low alk, it could be dropping to 7.6 by the end of the day.
I would fix whatever is stressing your fish out. That will remove the popeye. I would begin doing more frequent, larger water changes, get the garlic and a few vitamin supplements, and pick up an alk test kit. You will only fix the eye problem when you fix the fish's stress.
How often are you gravel vacuuming/doing a water change (what percentage) and how often are you feeding the fish?
 
min12512

min12512

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i understand about the salinity level and will keep it at one level instead of just within range. i feel the hawkfish twice a day and the other fish 3 times a day. when you say get vviatamins and supplements how will this help if the hawkfish wont eat anything else. obviously im new...hence im here... are there liquid supplements/viatamins just to add to the water or are you talking about solids to feed the hawkfish? i clean the gravel once per week and do a water change between 3 to 4 weeks....20 percent....but after reading im thinking to changing to 10 percent every two weeks...i have a 90 gallon f/o tank
 
lion_crazz

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A gravel vacuum and water change is the same thing. At this point, I would be doing 20% per week until your nitrates come down to about 10-20 ppm.
The vitamins/garlic are supplements that you soak the fish's food in. Thus, whatever you are feeding your hawkfish and other fish, soak them in the vitamins and supplements for 10-15 minutes before feeding.
I would cut down the feedings to once-twice a day until you get your nitrates under control. I would still feed the hawkfish twice a day though, to keep his immune system high.
When you do a water change, the more precise you are, the better and healthier your tank will be. Saltwater fish do not like fluctuations, so when you do a water change, make sure the salinity and temp of the water change water is EXACT to your tank. The best way to acheive this is to make your water up 24 hours in advance to the water change, and use a heater to make the temp the same.
 
lion_crazz

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Yes, but by then, it could definitely have gone away on its own. If it still has not, I would try MelaFix. That is an all-natural product.
 
3m

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just for future reference what vitamin supplements would you suggest outside of the garlic?
 
lion_crazz

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Originally Posted by 3M
just for future reference what vitamin supplements would you suggest outside of the garlic?
Zoe, Selcon, and VitaChem
 
3m

3m

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thanks lion , better to have it and not need it vs. needing it and not having it.
 
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