Power head help to convert to a lifter pump...

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/397143/power-head-help-to-convert-to-a-lifter-pump#post_3538990
Yeah that sponge (if you're using it) definitely needs to be checked and cleaned if necessary. It should come out without having to remove the overflow. Double check to make sure the valves on the plumbing are open and not closed. If the nub is clear then you should be good to go. A blockage in the drain is the only other thing I can think of.
The U-tube style overflow may be a little less problematic for you Deb if you want to try one of those. Eventually if we try enough different stuff we could have very well got you a reef ready tank already lol. 20 Aqua lifters later....

LOL...No drilling on my filled all glass tank that I'm not sure has tempered glass or not.

That is a picture of a newer model...my CPR overflow doesn't have a sponge, it has a little cone shaped cage, which I remove and clean regularly. How hard is it to prime a U-tube overflow if it loses it's siphon?

The reason I ask....I do my water changes, the new method is a couple of gallons a day, and the HOB filter loses it's siphon every time, and I have to prime it by adding water until it's filled before I turn back on it's pump. If the overflow does that, I have to be able to fix it on my own. LOL...I wouldn't have to suck water would I?

If it's easy enough to prime, and I can eliminate the lifter pump...I'm ready to try it.

 

[silverado61]

The 10g should be big enough. All we need to do is be able to run water from the tank through the over flow back to the tank.

 

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Originally Posted by silverado61 http:///t/397143/power-head-help-to-convert-to-a-lifter-pump/20#post_3538995
The 10g should be big enough. All we need to do is be able to run water from the tank through the over flow back to the tank.


Sounds like a plan...is Saturday looking free and clear or do you still not know for sure? Like I said, the tank is on life support, so there is no emergency....whatever is convenient for you.

 

[silverado61]

I'm on a charter right now. If there's nothing in my work mailbox when I get back tonight, we should be able to do this tomorrow.

 

[2quills]

LOL...No drilling on my filled all glass tank that I'm not sure has tempered glass or not.
That is a picture of a newer model...my CPR overflow doesn't have a sponge, it has a little cone shaped cage, which I remove and clean regularly. How hard is it to prime a U-tube overflow if it loses it's siphon?
The reason I ask....I do my water changes, the new method is a couple of gallons a day, and the HOB filter loses it's siphon every time, and I have to prime it by adding water until it's filled before I turn back on it's pump. If the overflow does that, I have to be able to fix it on my own. LOL...I wouldn't have to suck water would I?
If it's easy enough to prime, and I can eliminate the lifter pump...I'm ready to try it.
When you shut your return pump off for water changes do you cut power to the aqua lifter on the overflow as well?
The U-tube style aren't hard to prime if you have an aqua lifter handy to get it going. After that you shouldn't have to worry about it when you shut the pump off. I think I have an eshopps 800gph kicking around in my garage that I'm not using. I had it along with a wet/dry filter that I ran for a short time on one of my cichlid tanks a while back. Would probably fit your system.

 

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/397143/power-head-help-to-convert-to-a-lifter-pump/20#post_3539002
When you shut your return pump off for water changes do you cut power to the aqua lifter on the overflow as well?
The U-tube style aren't hard to prime if you have an aqua lifter handy to get it going. After that you shouldn't have to worry about it when you shut the pump off. I think I have an eshopps 800gph kicking around in my garage that I'm not using. I had it along with a wet/dry filter that I ran for a short time on one of my cichlid tanks a while back. Would probably fit your system.

Hi,

All pumps and the chiller are on a power strip, so it shuts down with a button push and restarts the same. The only thing not on the strip are the bubble air lines and the skimmer, since the water in the sump rises too high, and doesn't drop down fast enough for the skimmer to not overfill with water, I plug it back up manually.

Silverado is going to help me detach and clean up the CPR, once cleaned up I'm sure it will work, it's a simple gizmo, what could be wrong with it.... unless it's cracked. Then I have the little power head to use instead of the Aqua lifter pump. (That's the plan anyway)

When the system was not clogged , it ran like clock work, I always watched and waited to be sure the lifter was working before I sat down after I restarted everything...force of habit, it would run fine for months before to would act up and clog, there never was a problem to unclog it...this is a first where it just won't work, and the systems been up and running for over 2 years now. I think you guys put together a wonderful sump system for me, the lifter pump is the only flaw...they even sell a pre-filter because it's noted for clogging up...I have a bunch of those too.

LOL...the need of the dang aqua lifter pump is the bane of my life....I was hoping to grind it into powder in retaliation for the grief it's caused me. Just for my education, wouldn't an 800gph overflow be too large? The CPR on there now is a 300gph, that sounds like a really big difference.

 

[2quills]

Is this your 90g system?
I don't remember you getting a cpr that small.

 

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/397143/power-head-help-to-convert-to-a-lifter-pump/20#post_3539018
Is this your 90g system?
I don't remember you getting a cpr that small.

Yes...the CPR overflow is 300gph and the double one is 600gph...I have the single drain. The return is an Ehiem 3000, the Ehiem 2000 was on the 56g but the same size CPR...OMG, I just realized, I might have that CPR overflow in the garage...I have to fend the cold and go have a look.


Correction: Okay, I found it, it's not the same box, this one is 6 inches, and the one on the 90g is 7...so it's not the same. The box size makes the one on the 90g a 600gph, the 6 inch box is 300gph.

 

[2quills]

Would still work. If anything it gives you some more flexibility to upsize your pump a little bit in the future.
What do you have now a eheim compact 5000?

 

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/397143/power-head-help-to-convert-to-a-lifter-pump/20#post_3539024
Would still work. If anything it gives you some more flexibility to upsize your pump a little bit in the future.
What do you have now a eheim compact 5000?


Hi, It's an eheim 3000...

I got it working!!!!

It's running great, on the little power head....

with no lifter pump!

It could still use a good cleaning, but by golly I have my sump system up and running! I will keep a very close eye on it to make sure it continues, but it sure is running good and strong right now.

 

[silverado61]

I've been following. That's awesome Deb. Still, let me know if you want me to come out there and help with anything lady. Todays a wash. Tomorrow still looks good.

 

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Originally Posted by silverado61 http:///t/397143/power-head-help-to-convert-to-a-lifter-pump/20#post_3539028
I've been following. That's awesome Deb. Still, let me know if you want me to come out there and help with anything lady. Todays a wash. Tomorrow still looks good.


Thank you so very much! You live so close, and have been willing to come running when I need tank stuff help...your friendship is much appreciated.

LOL..I'm torn, if it aint broke don't fix it... The overflow could really use a good clean up, but I don't want to take it off the sump hoses to do it. So it looks like you have your weekend back...to extend Valentines day maybe....

I looked real hard at the extra CPR I had in the garage, that nub stops right there, it isn't even a tube line off from it. So maybe I didn't have such a great seal on the power head as I thought as to why it didn't work. As for the lifter pump...well that gizmo and I are not on friendly terms, and haven't been for some time, even the new one was a piece of crap. That's the second one I got that was not working properly from day one, but this one I should be able to return.

I have to thank all of you that have been helping, I love this site!

 

[silverado61]

Just let me know girl. You know I'm here for you if you need me.