Problem with ich, need help!!!
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louti
Member
Your other option is copper treatment. Either way, you need to set up a hospital tank and treat all of the fish. Ich can spread very quickly, so you want to act quickly. If you don't have an established hospital tank, you will need to set one up that will need to cycle. Adding sand, rock, and/or filter media from your main tank will speed up the cycle. Even with this, you'll have to be very diligent, testing the water and doing appropriate water changes, possibly daily for the first few days. A product like Amquel+ can also help.
louti
Member
Your other option is copper treatment. Either way, you need to set up a hospital tank and treat all of the fish. Ich can spread very quickly, so you want to act quickly. If you don't have an established hospital tank, you will need to set one up that will need to cycle. Adding sand, rock, and/or filter media from your main tank will speed up the cycle. Even with this, you'll have to be very diligent, testing the water and doing appropriate water changes, possibly daily for the first few days. A product like Amquel+ can also help.
al mc
Active Member
Originally Posted by erifish3
http:///forum/post/3230613
Can inverts carry ich?
They can not 'host' Ich but any wet surface...live rock and inverts..can 'carry' Ich. That is why many advocate QT for everything that has a wet surface before putting it into one's DT.
If you do use copper, use Cupramine with the copper testing kit from the same manufacturer. Personally, I would consider hyposalinity of the DT, moving any inverts out to a HT during the treament. You will lose some of the beneficial 'critters' that live in the live rock but you will not lose your nitrogen cycle bacteria. If you use copper you will lose some/all of the 'good' bacteria.
http:///forum/post/3230613
Can inverts carry ich?
They can not 'host' Ich but any wet surface...live rock and inverts..can 'carry' Ich. That is why many advocate QT for everything that has a wet surface before putting it into one's DT.
If you do use copper, use Cupramine with the copper testing kit from the same manufacturer. Personally, I would consider hyposalinity of the DT, moving any inverts out to a HT during the treament. You will lose some of the beneficial 'critters' that live in the live rock but you will not lose your nitrogen cycle bacteria. If you use copper you will lose some/all of the 'good' bacteria.
oceankid
Member
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3230013
Read the posts Beth has on how to treat it with hyposalinity.
Hi..Can you paste here the link of Beth's post? I just would like to know.
Thank you.
http:///forum/post/3230013
Read the posts Beth has on how to treat it with hyposalinity.
Hi..Can you paste here the link of Beth's post? I just would like to know.
Thank you.
noah's nemo
Member
Originally Posted by Al Mc
http:///forum/post/3230745
They can not 'host' Ich but any wet surface...live rock and inverts..can 'carry' Ich. That is why many advocate QT for everything that has a wet surface before putting it into one's DT. If you do use copper, use Cupramine with the copper testing kit from the same manufacturer. Personally, I would consider hyposalinity of the DT, moving any inverts out to a HT during the treament. You will lose some of the beneficial 'critters' that live in the live rock but you will not lose your nitrogen cycle bacteria. If you use copper you will lose some/all of the 'good' bacteria.
Beths thread is right above this one,its a sticky and is always the first and second threads.Good read,everyone should give it a look
al mc
Active Member
Originally Posted by erifish3
http:///forum/post/3231785
Last night and this morning, my lion showed no signs of having ich, this evening he has a few white specs that came back and my angel looks clean. Any ideas?
Very common. Only part of the life cycle of the parasite lives on, and is visible on, the fish host. So, it may 'appear' that the parasite comes and goes. However, until treated, it will be present (and multiplying) in your system.
http:///forum/post/3231785
Last night and this morning, my lion showed no signs of having ich, this evening he has a few white specs that came back and my angel looks clean. Any ideas?
Very common. Only part of the life cycle of the parasite lives on, and is visible on, the fish host. So, it may 'appear' that the parasite comes and goes. However, until treated, it will be present (and multiplying) in your system.
noah's nemo
Member
Al MC,you sound like you may have dealt with this before
,and learned the hard way,as myself and so many others have.
erifish,ich got into your system,it sucks.It is now there and ALWAYS will be,unless you empty your tank of all fish,treat them with hypo or copper,or let your DT fallow for 6 weeks or more.Your inverts can stay,they can carry ich but ich can't host inverts,without a host it will die off. I did this about a year ago,it works ..... Also,just noticed your stock and tank size,theres alot of stress going on in there,i'm not going to tell you to get rid of any fish,but you better kill this ich,because it comes back bigger and badder everytime.Good luck man
erifish,ich got into your system,it sucks.It is now there and ALWAYS will be,unless you empty your tank of all fish,treat them with hypo or copper,or let your DT fallow for 6 weeks or more.Your inverts can stay,they can carry ich but ich can't host inverts,without a host it will die off. I did this about a year ago,it works ..... Also,just noticed your stock and tank size,theres alot of stress going on in there,i'm not going to tell you to get rid of any fish,but you better kill this ich,because it comes back bigger and badder everytime.Good luck man
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by louti
http:///forum/post/3230694
No, only fish can host ich.
this is not true.
it is technically possible for snails and other invertebrate to "host the ick parasite"
http:///forum/post/3230694
No, only fish can host ich.
this is not true.
it is technically possible for snails and other invertebrate to "host the ick parasite"
shwstpr88
Member
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3231951
this is not true.
it is technically possible for snails and other invertebrate to "host the ick parasite"
Go on.....
http:///forum/post/3231951
this is not true.
it is technically possible for snails and other invertebrate to "host the ick parasite"
Go on.....
noah's nemo
Member
You have my attention
florida joe
Well-Known Member
I don’t know it just sounded good. Or I could of heard it somewhere OR if we go by the definition of hosting One who receives and then we look at the life cycle of ick it just may make sense. of course i am not talking about the ick parasite in its parasitic stage
noah's nemo
Member
Well ,lets just say without a proper host(fish),ich will DIE trying to find just that,a proper host....Leave a DT fishless 6+ weeks and you SHOULD be safe.I did mine for 8 weeks over a year ago.No outbreaks since
Oh yeah and ,QT everything!
Oh yeah and ,QT everything!
cranberry
Active Member
Ich can be on any object during it's Tomont stage. That is when they adhere to a surface, encapsulate and reproduce. If you move an object from one tank to another, and these encapsulations are on that object, you are transferring the Ich via another means other than a fish.
Those encapsulations with rupture, spewing babies that will host a fish if one is available. If there is no fish, the cycle is over.
Those encapsulations with rupture, spewing babies that will host a fish if one is available. If there is no fish, the cycle is over.
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3231990
Ich can be on any object during it's Tomont stage. That is when they adhere to a surface, encapsulate and reproduce. If you move an object from one tank to another, and these encapsulations are on that object, you are transferring the Ich via another means other than a fish.
Those encapsulations with rupture, spewing babies that will host a fish if one is available. If there is no fish, the cycle is over.
so we are in agreement in reference to my post #14
http:///forum/post/3231990
Ich can be on any object during it's Tomont stage. That is when they adhere to a surface, encapsulate and reproduce. If you move an object from one tank to another, and these encapsulations are on that object, you are transferring the Ich via another means other than a fish.
Those encapsulations with rupture, spewing babies that will host a fish if one is available. If there is no fish, the cycle is over.
so we are in agreement in reference to my post #14