Protien Skimmer Setup????? Help

anthony17

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is that really going to matter i mean its all pumped and i dont think it sould matter if its right out side the tank or not??? not for sure but it should still work the same way right???
 
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dboy999

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not nessacaraly you have a pic of your G-3?..i wanna see how its laid out
if you must use it outside of the tank that also means your losing head(pressure)may have to get a bit larger pump
 
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dboy999

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heres mine in my middele tank ..and.heres the layout of my behind the scenes of the main tank

 

anthony17

Member
with the pump losing not pumping enough shouldnt cause my simmer to overflow should it??? and what about that little piece being chipped off??? its causeing a small leak when it filles up all the way, when i have my skimmer working right will it still leak with just bubbles going up their, and i cant post pics cuz i dont have any way of getting the pic size small enough to post it.
 
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dboy999

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sorry missed the part about the chip.Is it chipped just on the lid of the skimmer cup?that shouldent be a problem.did you lower or higher the the part where the "clean" water is returned?i could really use a pic an i could figure it out for you of how you have it set up..Go on a site called zdnet.com an go in downloads a search for a program called photo resizer its great an easy.it would help alot to see your setup how you have it plumbed an etc.....
 
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dboy999

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when you download that program just set lenght=height to 500x500
 

anthony17

Member
ok downloading now and taking pics and will post and the reason i didnt put it in my sump is cuz i didnt have enough room any suggestions after i post my pics will be great
 
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dboy999

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ok whats your pump size?an is the pump in the sump?If its in the sump them definetly way too much head, my two pumps on my g-6 are about 3 inches of pipe between the pumps an the skimmer each.An as for that crack thats not helping either.If its not leaking fine.But if it is id drain it down some dry it good twist it on tight an silicone it good an tight..let it dry a bit thoug.Youll just have to do it each time when you clean etc...Also my honest opinion i think the asm defiently works better in sump just my opinion
 
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dboy999

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also this should have a T on it cant tell from the pic..look at my pic where the black pipe from the skimmer meets the white pvc that need to be a T fitting not an elbow!
 

sly

Active Member
Add a tee to your plumbing so that your air bubbles will be able to escape and not pressurise your skimmer. Also you need to raise the skimmer so that your water column is lower. By not having your skimmer in a sump, your pressures will be all screwed up and it will be harder to adjust.
 

anthony17

Member
ok im going to put it in my tank and see if it works if not another LFS will try to let me swap it out for a G-1 and some other stuff to make it OKAY
 

sly

Active Member
Sounds good. The thing is that with your exhaust fixed, you will not be able to adjust the height of your water column in the skimmer. You normally slide the exhaust tube up and down so that you get the water in the skimmer to be just high enough so that dry dirty foam seeps into the collection cup. With your setup the exhaust is connected to a permanent overflow tube. You won't be able to lower it. So if the water in the skimmer keeps rising into the collection cup, then instead of lowering the exhaust tube, you will have to raise the skimmer or change your setup.
 

anthony17

Member
whoa sly i dont understand any of that if the skimmer is in my sump why would anything not work??? all i would have to do is raise or lower the overflow part right??? sorry i guess im not thinking right tonight or what just didnt make sense to me.
 

sly

Active Member
Sorry, I was talking about dboy999. You should be fine to just raise and lower the tube. I got my posters confused... a little tired...
 

sly

Active Member
I thought your skimmer was outside of your sump. If it is in your sump then you should be able to adjust your setup easily. Sorry, its getting late for me and I'm not thinking clearly either.
 

acrylic51

Active Member
I hate to be totally stupid here, but like DDboy said the skimmer is designed and if you read the manufacturers paperwork it is suppose to be run INSUMP.....They are known to leak at the neck and that is why they aren't designed to be run externally, but that can be gotten around another way, but a different topic than this.....
By looking at the pics it appears that your pump is connect to the skimmer by tubing, and think this is going to be a major problem as far as the pump is sized accordingly to the skimmer being max efficiency will be greatly loss by moving pump inside sump and running line or tubing to the skimmer outside the sump, so you bubble production inside the skimmer will probably be greatly reduced.......When these skimmers are run externally like your trying to do, they are usually gravity fed and the pump that is supplied with the skimmer is run or used as a recirc. I think the whole setup with the skimmer running externally will work, but not as it's configured.....With the collection cup filling up I think the "T" idea will work to vent the return, but to have better control on the height of water in the skimmer body you should use the "gate valve" mod that is recommended for both the ASM and Euro skimmers. Makes adjusting the water height in the skimmer easier.....What is the bubble production like inside the skimmer body? Have you thought about gravity feeding the skimmer and running it recirc?
 

acrylic51

Active Member
Originally Posted by dboy999
i have a gs-6 i have about 800 gallons of volume in my tank/sump/fuge...correct me if im wrong but i belive asm skimmers are for in sump use only?atleast the g-6 is..may wanna check that out
Sorry about the typo Dboy999, but yes the ASM's are suppose to be run in sump, but I went to ASM website on their forum and there are ways to get around running them in sump, but they need to be housed in a container that will catch any possible leakage from the nose or cone of the skimmer.....Have you seen any leakage from that area on your G6? They think it's possible to eliminate the leakage if they seal at the cone is really lubricated??? They haven't tried a heavier lube yet.
 
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