protien skimmers...

treystang

Member
Is there such a thing as a protien skimmer that is not a hangon.. and that does not require a sump??
I have a power filter that has the out and in tube that hang into the tank.. and I am looking to get a protien skimmer... my problem is.. I only have 2 inch from the tank to the wall.. so no room for a hangon type skimmer.
Anyone have any recommendations on what type of protien skimmer I should look for?? :confused: :(
and moving the tank is about 97% out of the question too.
 
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tizzo

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The absolute only solution I can think of would be an overflow to a small 10 gallon and a pump back up, with the skimmer in that. I realize you said no sump, and that's sorta like one, but not... Over flow around $60, pump and a $10 tank from wal-mart. That's the only thing I can think of...:notsure:
Could you fit an over flow box on the side or something??
 
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big911dog

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i agree with Tizzo. If you're going in that direction, I LOVE my euro reef skimmer. a good skimmer is worth every penny and is one of the pieces of equipment you should NOT skimp on. Mine is in overdrive right now curing my live rock and cycling my tank. when you have a good skimmer you can see the results every time you clean it...
 

treystang

Member

Originally posted by Tizzo
The absolute only solution I can think of would be an overflow to a small 10 gallon and a pump back up, with the skimmer in that. I realize you said no sump, and that's sorta like one, but not... Over flow around $60, pump and a $10 tank from wal-mart. That's the only thing I can think of...:notsure:
Could you fit an over flow box on the side or something??

I could put it on the side.. but the tank is against a wall in my living room.. and I really dont want it hanging over the side like that :(
But as you are saying.. let me make sure I get this straight...
I should have the water from the tank pumped down to the filter, then into a 10 gallon tank.. then to the sump style skimmer, then a second pump to dump it back into the tank?
Sounds feasible!, does any out there run this type of setup??
Thanks
Trey
 
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big911dog

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the water will siphon to the sump. once there, the skimmer (which has a pump for its own operation) will do its job. then you'll need to pump the water back to the main tank. ur running a sump operation, so you might want to think about epoxying in some baffles while ur at it to prevent microbubble problems.
 

treystang

Member

Originally posted by Big911Dog
the water will siphon to the sump. once there, the skimmer (which has a pump for its own operation) will do its job. then you'll need to pump the water back to the main tank. ur running a sump operation, so you might want to think about epoxying in some baffles while ur at it to prevent microbubble problems.

I think I understand... you would not happen to have a link for some reading materials on this subject would you? :)
 

treystang

Member
while I am at it.. here is the filter I have... is this thing really good for SW tanks?? the LFS I went too stated it would be more than enough filtration.. he is a big saltwater guy himself and their store is primarily saltwater and reptiles...
Actually I will not post the link.. but I will post a google seach page where you can find information on the filter I have ;)
http://www.google.com/search?q=casca...en-US:eek:fficial
 

spline9

Member
I thought about doing this myself but I worry about flooding if there were a power outage.
The thing I was thinking of doing is this...
Get a small tank, position it above the display tank. Use a pump to drive water up to the small tank. Drill a hole near the middle of the tank and attach a hose to that draining (via gravity) to the main tank.
The hole works as an overflow and since there is no siphon, it wont drain dry. If theres a power outage, the pump will simply stop and nothing will flood.
My intention for this is for a fuge but I cant see why you cant use it as a pseudo-sump for your skimmer, either. Just have to find a good spot to place it above your tank.
I dunno, this is just theory, though. I have yet to do a DIY job myself but seems simple enough. Can anybody find any flaws in this?
 

treystang

Member

Originally posted by spline9
I thought about doing this myself but I worry about flooding if there were a power outage.
The thing I was thinking of doing is this...
Get a small tank, position it above the display tank. Use a pump to drive water up to the small tank. Drill a hole near the middle of the tank and attach a hose to that draining (via gravity) to the main tank.
The hole works as an overflow and since there is no siphon, it wont drain dry. If theres a power outage, the pump will simply stop and nothing will flood.
My intention for this is for a fuge but I cant see why you cant use it as a pseudo-sump for your skimmer, either. Just have to find a good spot to place it above your tank.
I dunno, this is just theory, though. I have yet to do a DIY job myself but seems simple enough. Can anybody find any flaws in this?

sounds good in theory.. But I dont think this will work in my situation.. I do not really want to drill into the tank.. and I definatly can not move it to drill it :(
I have actually found only a hang on skimmer thats good for 85gallons that is only 2inchs deep. So this might actaully fit behind my tank.. anyone heard of this brand??
http://www.proteinskimmer.com/products/Remora.htm anyone use this model by chance? iits 160 bones... I am thinkin gbaout ordering it.. but I have already done enough purchasing without reseach and would rather spend my money wisley ;)
 

rossim

Member
I currently have the AquaC Urchin, which is the in-sump model and love it! From what I've read on the boards, the AquaC and EuroReef are two of the best ones out there.
If you're interested in a simple sump setup, do a search for my user name. I posted a thread a couple months ago with a pic of my simple sump.
 
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big911dog

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the aqua-c's are a very good brand. i have a remora on my QT. i just wanted an in sump skimmer for the show tank.
 

treystang

Member

Originally posted by rossim
I currently have the AquaC Urchin, which is the in-sump model and love it! From what I've read on the boards, the AquaC and EuroReef are two of the best ones out there.
If you're interested in a simple sump setup, do a search for my user name. I posted a thread a couple months ago with a pic of my simple sump.

Thanks for the info, I found your picuture.. is this a noo drill setup?? Could not really tell from the pic, and what kind of pump are you useing to get the water back to the tank.. can you provide any more details?? :)
thanks
Trey
 
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big911dog

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also, if u build an inverted U with a plug at the top, if there is any poweroutages, the plug will break the siphon. thats what oceanic does on its overflow plumbing kit. when i turn off the power to clean everything, my sump level only goes up about two inches.
 
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