QT for hyposalinity

[razor vampire]

I am thinking of getting hospital tank for hyposalinity.
How do you cyle it? I can't just used live rocks/sand. Hyposalinity would kill the live rock into base rock.
So what can keep the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate down?

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by Razor Vampire
I am thinking of getting hospital tank for hyposalinity.
How do you cyle it? I can't just used live rocks/sand. Hyposalinity would kill the live rock into base rock.
So what can keep the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate down?

Please tell us your situation. Do you have fish with ich right now?

 

[razor vampire]

Originally Posted by sepulatian
Please tell us your situation. Do you have fish with ich right now?
Yes, 1in blue hippo tang.
I am planning on getting a 90gal tank. I'll feel safer hyposalinity future fish before adding anything in my 90 gallon

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by Razor Vampire
Yes, 1in blue hippo tang.
I am planning on getting a 90gal tank. I'll feel safer hyposalinity future fish before adding anything in my 90 gallon
Is the fish in the display right now? What else is in the display? The entire display has been infected.

 

[razor vampire]

Originally Posted by sepulatian
Is the fish in the display right now? What else is in the display? The entire display has been infected.
Yes just the tang and golded head goby.

I have coral and crabs.Sould I hyposalinity the goby?

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by Razor Vampire
Yes just the tang and golded head goby.

I have coral and crabs.Sould I hyposalinity the goby?
Both fish need hypo. The hippo infected the goby. Do you have LR or LS? How many inverts do you have?

 

[razor vampire]

Originally Posted by sepulatian
Both fish need hypo. The hippo infected the goby. Do you have LR or LS? How many inverts do you have?
live rock live sand? yes
again, how do I set up a QT without using live rock or live sand to cyle?

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by Razor Vampire
live rock live sand? yes
again, how do I set up a QT without using live rock or live sand to cyle?
Set up the tank with water. Use filter media from your display. There isn't a whole lot that you can do to prevent a cycle. This is why you should have a qt set up at all times. You can do one in a pinch but you will be doing a whole lot of water changes. How much LR do you have? It may be easier to hypo the main. LR and inverts don't have a bioload. It is a lot easier to put them into a tank. What kind of LS do you have? Live in bacteria or fully live with worms and all of the life of the ocean?

 

[razor vampire]

Originally Posted by sepulatian
Set up the tank with water. Use filter media from your display. There isn't a whole lot that you can do to prevent a cycle. This is why you should have a qt set up at all times. You can do one in a pinch but you will be doing a whole lot of water changes. How much LR do you have? It may be easier to hypo the main. LR and inverts don't have a bioload. It is a lot easier to put them into a tank. What kind of LS do you have? Live in bacteria or fully live with worms and all of the life of the ocean?
So water change is going to keep the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate down? In hyposailty?
I have a 12 gallon, only a month old. (I know that it's too small for a tang)
I don't want to kill my coral, or snail/crabs. They can't take hyposailty.
If I hypos my main tank it's going to kill the live rocks.

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by Razor Vampire
So water change is going to keep the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate down? In hyposailty?
I have a 12 gallon, only a month old. (I know that it's too small for a tang)
I don't want to kill my coral, or snail/crabs. They can't take hyposailty.
If I hypos my main tank it's going to kill the live rocks.
I have to say...............Are you kidding? Get rid of the tang. You cannot support him. A hypo tank for a tang is at least a 20 long. If you leave the display fishless for three weeks then there will be no more ich in there.

 

[razor vampire]

Originally Posted by sepulatian
I have to say...............Are you kidding? Get rid of the tang. You cannot support him. A hypo tank for a tang is at least a 20 long. If you leave the display fishless for three weeks then there will be no more ich in there.
Yes I know, I am going to get a tank that big. I don't needed to get flamed

 

[razor vampire]

Again I am getting a 90gal in 2 weeks

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by Razor Vampire
Yes just the tang and golded head goby.

I have coral and crabs.Sould I hyposalinity the goby?
You have a hippo in a 12 gallon? Give him back to the LFS. the goby will need to be treated. Be ready to do some water changes. Add the sponges from your filter.

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by Razor Vampire
Yes I know, I am going to get a tank that big. I don't needed to get flamed
90 gallons is not big enough for a hippo either. Are you buying 100lbs of very mature LR as well?

 

[razor vampire]

Originally Posted by sepulatian
You have a hippo in a 12 gallon? Give him back to the LFS. the goby will need to be treated. Be ready to do some water changes. Add the sponges from your filter.
The hippo is about the size of a nickle, he's only going to be in the 12gal less then 2 weeks. Whenever I can get a QT started.
AGAIN Does water change keep down the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate down? How offen? How much?
What do you mean add the sponges from what filter?

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by Razor Vampire
The hippo is about the size of a nickle, he's only going to be in the 12gal less then 2 weeks. Whenever I can get a QT started.
AGAIN Does water change keep down the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate down? How offen? How much?
What do you mean add the sponges from what filter?
A filter from a larger tank has sponges in it that can be removed. I am not going to lie to you, it is going to be tough to keep the ammonia and nitrites from spiking. Normally I would suggest adding a sponge filter to the sump in a high flow area. You don't have any way to add biological bacteria to the QT tank. You will have to do many, MANY water changes. BTW the 90 gallon will have to cycle and mature by a year.

 

[sepulatian]

Do you have the 90 yet?

 

[razor vampire]

Originally Posted by sepulatian
Do you have the 90 yet?
no in 2 weeks
So you mean take the 12 gallon sponges, and add it to my QT tank?
Like how much water change? How long would it last?

 

[jennythebugg]

the very first thread in the disease and treatment forum where you posted this is the faq thread it has information on setting up a qt and how to do hypo- i also agree with sep that it was a bad idea to have that fish in there ,the minimum recommended tank size for a 1-2 inch blue hippo tang is 40 gallons according to swf , this could be why this fish got sick is because it it stressed being all closed in like that , it may be a small fish but it is a big swimmer if that makes any sense . but good luck to you hope your 90 gal. gets there very very very fast