QT question.

[trigger40]

i just got a 15g qt to replace my 10g qt and i was wondering if i could put the water and filter media into the 15g and not wory about the water quality going bad because i have fish fish in my qt and i would like to move them in ther with out my water quality getting funky. what do you think?

 

[bang guy]

I've been thinking about this today.

If it were me I would probably go for it but first I would have a lot of water on hand for water changes.

I'm concerned when you say you have fish in your quarantine. Hopefully you meant you have a fish but it didn't read that way. If you have more than one you might want to keep both running.

 

[trigger40]

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/397647/qt-question#post_3545114
I've been thinking about this today.

If it were me I would probably go for it but first I would have a lot of water on hand for water changes.

I'm concerned when you say you have fish in your quarantine. Hopefully you meant you have a fish but it didn't read that way. If you have more than one you might want to keep both running.
im gona go for it but i have two very small fish so i think it will be ok

 

[trigger40]

also once i get the tank stable do you think i can fit three more fish in the qt?

 

[silverado61]

Don't forget, every time you move a fish it creates stress. If you have fish in your 10g qt I'd leave them there till you move them to the display. Then set up the 15g.

 

[flower]

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Originally Posted by trigger40 http:///t/397647/qt-question#post_3545177
also once i get the tank stable do you think i can fit three more fish in the qt?

Hi,

I can understand wanting to put two very small clownfish into a single quarantine since they will be together. However as a rule 1 fish at a time. it sounds like you are just in a hurry and want to cram as many fish in the QT as you can. By doing so you will won't have the bacteria build up in the QT or in the display when you add them.

A 15g tank is very small, and a quarantine is a minimal running system designed to be able to add medicine if need be. Quarantines don't have live rock or sand, so the only good bacteria surface is just really on the filter sponge. If you add too many fish at once, you will run into water quality issues and put the new fish at risk. Patience is the key to success, add 1 fish at a time.

 

[trigger40]

i do understand that you haft to be patient but i was just wondering if was even posible to fit that many fish in a tank that size to perform hypo on all my fish to treat ick that i have been battleing for over a month now.

 

[flower]

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Originally Posted by trigger40 http:///t/397647/qt-question#post_3545218
i do understand that you haft to be patient but i was just wondering if was even posible to fit that many fish in a tank that size to perform hypo on all my fish to treat ick that i have been battleing for over a month now.

Hi,

You would do better to get at least another 20g tank...the fish have to live in it for 8 weeks. Keep mixed water for any emergency water changes in a container ready to go. After the hypo treatment, Macroalgae will help keep the tank parameters in check and stabilize things while you wait out the time until the fish can be reintroduced to the display system..

 

[trigger40]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/397647/qt-question#post_3545285

Hi,

You would do better to get at least another 20g tank...the fish have to live in it for 8 weeks. Keep mixed water for any emergency water changes in a container ready to go. After the hypo treatment, Macroalgae will help keep the tank parameters in check and stabilize things while you wait out the time until the fish can be reintroduced to the display system..
i know that getting another tank is what should do but do i have the time to cycle another tank for hypo?

 

[flower]

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Originally Posted by trigger40 http:///t/397647/qt-question#post_3545385
i know that getting another tank is what should do but do i have the time to cycle another tank for hypo?

Hi,

I never cycled a QT...I had a sponge material from the display and I would do a water change, I took water from the display to fill the QT, then put fresh new saltwater into the display. You will be removing water from the QT and adding fresh water to do hypo, so a constant change of water is going on.

 

[trigger40]

well what i got for a sponge is one of those things you use to clean cars but its not used and unopen so i asume this is what you are talking about. i still have the 10 sitting around with one of those cheap aquateck filters that maybe i can stick a sponge in ther and use that. but it would not have a light.

 

[silverado61]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/397647/qt-question#post_3545395
Quote:
Originally Posted by trigger40 http:///t/397647/qt-question#post_3545385
i know that getting another tank is what should do but do i have the time to cycle another tank for hypo?

Hi,

I never cycled a QT...I had a sponge material from the display and I would do a water change, I took water from the display to fill the QT, then put fresh new saltwater into the display. You will be removing water from the QT and adding fresh water to do hypo, so a constant change of water is going on.
But if he's treating ich with hypo and he uses water from his display, which has the ich, to fill the qt, isn't he infecting the qt with ich? Just saying.

 

[flower]

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Originally Posted by silverado61 http:///t/397647/qt-question#post_3545412
But if he's treating ich with hypo and he uses water from his display, which has the ich, to fill the qt, isn't he infecting the qt with ich? Just saying.
Hi,

The fish are already infected...so it makes no difference...as he does the hypo, the ich will be dying and the fish cured.

 

[flower]

Quote:
Originally Posted by trigger40 http:///t/397647/qt-question#post_3545401
well what i got for a sponge is one of those things you use to clean cars but its not used and unopen so i asume this is what you are talking about. i still have the 10 sitting around with one of those cheap aquateck filters that maybe i can stick a sponge in ther and use that. but it would not have a light.

Hi...The reason for the sponge from the display is because it would already be loaded with good bacteria...without the good bacteria the sponge is useless, so a new sponge will not do. You will have to put and keep a sponge or filter material in the display for the future, but if you don't have one now...

Doing hypo, you are already changing the water regularly so ammonia shouldn't get a chance to cause problems. Use the old water like I said, have a small HOB for the QT with filter material as you normally would, but have enough premixed saltwater on hand for emergency water changes if ammonia should spike. If you do have to do a large water change, make sure to match the SG of whatever point of hypo you are at.

 

[silverado61]

Even in the water? Hmm. Good point.

Seems like every time I visit this site I learn something. Although if I would have thought about it long enough I might have caught that. Duh!

 

[silverado61]

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Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/397647/qt-question#post_3545418
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If you do have to do a large water change, make sure to match the SG of whatever point of hypo you are at.
And the water temp or you defeat the purpose of the hypo.

(I think I thought about that long enough to get it right.)

 

[flower]

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Originally Posted by silverado61 http:///t/397647/qt-question#post_3545435
And the water temp or you defeat the purpose of the hypo.

(I think I thought about that long enough to get it right.)

I haven't used heaters for so long I forget about them. I have never done hypo...what does temp have to do with it, and defeating the purpose?

 

[bang guy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/397647/qt-question#post_3545514

I haven't used heaters for so long I forget about them. I have never done hypo...what does temp have to do with it, and defeating the purpose?

I can't speak for where Silverado is coming from but two things to consider:

1 - SG is significantly affected by temperature, Salinity is not.

2 - The higher the temperature the faster Ick goes through it's lifecycle.

 

[silverado61]

 
I haven't used heaters in so long I forget about them. I have never done hypo...what does temp have to do with it, and defeating the purpose?
You have to lower the temp along with salinity. I think its 70deg, I'm not sure right off hand. You'll have to check with Beth on that to be sure but its like acclimating or changing saltwater where you need to match it.

 

[silverado61]

I just reread Beths thread on hypo. There is no mention of dropping the temp. I don't know where the heck I got that from. My bad.