question about pink stuff ? coraline

[bill109]

hello all
i have just bought a new fish yesterday. its a bue and pink watchman! what a beautiful fish i must say.
hes about 2 inches
any ways what is that pink flakey stuff that is grownin around my tank. I see the stuff on the lr so its coraline i assume?
its on my filter intake tube thing and my thermometer and intake on the powerhead (the box)
any answers?
also what is some good background info on corals? i havent HAD the time to do research so maybe some starting info.
also what do you think/know about thses guys?
sixline
Firefish (dartfish)
i am lookin for them in a few weeks.

 

[tizzo]

Can you wipe the "pink flakey stuff" off?? If so then you may wanna research cyanobacteria.
If it's impossible to remove, then it's coralline.
Here is a pic of cyano and then coralline side by side for you to compare...

 

[bill109]

it coraline but the cyano color coraline is on my rock. and the coraline is one my thermometer and etc.

 

[jdrex]

sixline and firefish are both excellent choices for any set up, reef or fish only. Just make sure you have a top on your tank. firefish like to jump out.

 

[chickadee]

coraline comes in many different colors. While purple (like in tizzo's pic) is the most common, it also comes in shades of red and orange.
the six line and firefish are both great fish. Just fyi, though, the wrasse group is well known for jumping, so if you have an open top, i'd think twice about it, or get some egg crate to put on your tank.
corals come in all shapes and sizes. They also all have different lighting requirements. One thing they all have in common is they require almost perfect water parameters. While some are more hardy than others, they do not tolerate high amounts of nitrates, or any ammonia and/or nitrites.
Here's what you should do: look through all of the pictures of corals on this site, and make a list of the ones you would want to have. write down the lighting requirements and temperament (ie, aggressive with stinging tentacles or non-aggressive without stinger). Then you want to look over your list and see what the general consensus is for the lights. If most of your corals need moderate lighting, and you can live without the ones that need high lighting, then go with moderate lighting setup. If you can't live without the high lighting-need corals, then go with a hight lighting setup. Then narrow your list down even further. for example, i decided i want one of those awesome tightly-packed reefs, so i nixed all of the aggressive corals off of my list.
From there, you need to get a reef testing kit, so you can test for calcium, iodine, magnesium, and other such elements in your tank. you should get your water parameters as close to perfect as you can Then get the lighting setup, which is the most important. You don't want to skimp on lighting... remember, you get what you pay for! A really good brand is orbit. IMO, don't go for the jebo/oddysea brand... it's cheap $ and cheap! If you don't have a protien skimmer, it's pretty much necessary to have one. you don't HAVE to have one, but you should have one. You'll be shocked at how much they remove from your system!
hope this helps!!!

 

[bill109]

Originally Posted by chickadee
coraline comes in many different colors. While purple (like in tizzo's pic) is the most common, it also comes in shades of red and orange.
the six line and firefish are both great fish. Just fyi, though, the wrasse group is well known for jumping, so if you have an open top, i'd think twice about it, or get some egg crate to put on your tank.
corals come in all shapes and sizes. They also all have different lighting requirements. One thing they all have in common is they require almost perfect water parameters. While some are more hardy than others, they do not tolerate high amounts of nitrates, or any ammonia and/or nitrites.
Here's what you should do: look through all of the pictures of corals on this site, and make a list of the ones you would want to have. write down the lighting requirements and temperament (ie, aggressive with stinging tentacles or non-aggressive without stinger). Then you want to look over your list and see what the general consensus is for the lights. If most of your corals need moderate lighting, and you can live without the ones that need high lighting, then go with moderate lighting setup. If you can't live without the high lighting-need corals, then go with a hight lighting setup. Then narrow your list down even further. for example, i decided i want one of those awesome tightly-packed reefs, so i nixed all of the aggressive corals off of my list.
From there, you need to get a reef testing kit, so you can test for calcium, iodine, magnesium, and other such elements in your tank. you should get your water parameters as close to perfect as you can Then get the lighting setup, which is the most important. You don't want to skimp on lighting... remember, you get what you pay for! A really good brand is orbit. IMO, don't go for the jebo/oddysea brand... it's cheap $ and cheap! If you don't have a protien skimmer, it's pretty much necessary to have one. you don't HAVE to have one, but you should have one. You'll be shocked at how much they remove from your system!
hope this helps!!!
thanx it helps about the egg crate. and i have a coraLife light it has 30 inch 130 watt light
(2 65 watt)
and for the skimmer im set i have a good one in my opinion
its a Remora C Urchin pro witth a 4500 pump.
I love it
so i want to do corals that are hardy for my first ones and want to pack my tank to a good extent so it looks natural sooo ill get a list together so any oppinons to start and how much is a coral test kit?
this is an expensize hobby lol even more so from when i started lol when you got little money available lol
im 15 so i fund everything so no 100-150 dollar corals
thank you all

 

[chickadee]

yes, that's a fabulous one!
is your light a PC? what size is your tank, and how deep is it? these are all key factors as to what kind of corals you can get. If you want it tightly packed, make sure you avoid the corals that have sweeper tentacles that come out at night.
most corals you find should only be about $30 - $50, sometimes cheaper if you know how to haggle

some great hardy corals are mushrooms, zoos, and polyps. Also, the toadstool mushroom is a pretty hardy coral too.

 

[bill109]

Originally Posted by chickadee
yes, that's a fabulous one!
is your light a PC? what size is your tank, and how deep is it? these are all key factors as to what kind of corals you can get. If you want it tightly packed, make sure you avoid the corals that have sweeper tentacles that come out at night.
most corals you find should only be about $30 - $50, sometimes cheaper if you know how to haggle

some great hardy corals are mushrooms, zoos, and polyps. Also, the toadstool mushroom is a pretty hardy coral too.
ok ill post a link of corals or pictures how do i tell if they are pc light? ill check the box
and to think my lfs reccomended that light :happyfish

 

[bill109]

Here are some corals i liked
Brain coral Geen open
Colt Coral
hard Tube coco worm
Mushroom blue tripe
muschroom green elephant ear
mushroom coral striped green mealic
Mushroom polyp green rocordea
Xenia Blue anthelia (i think that is what its called)
whats your input on these and with my lights listed above
its a 30 gallon tank is a carpet anenome too big i saw one today that was a carpet and was bright green and a cricle

 

[chickadee]

anemones aren't going to do well in your lighting setup. Mushrooms are good, coco worms don't have lighting requirements, so that's fine. xenias should be ok, but place them toward the top of the tank. colt corals are more aggressive, so it shouldn't be placed right next to another coral. they also require moderate to high lighting, so in your tank i probably wouldn't until you can get some stronger lighting. the brain coral is also aggressive, but it likes the bottom of the tank. It once again requires moderate to high lighting, so if i were you, i'd wait until you get stronger lighting.
as far as the pc lighting, how many prongs are on one side of the light?

 

[bill109]

Originally Posted by chickadee
anemones aren't going to do well in your lighting setup. Mushrooms are good, coco worms don't have lighting requirements, so that's fine. xenias should be ok, but place them toward the top of the tank. colt corals are more aggressive, so it shouldn't be placed right next to another coral. they also require moderate to high lighting, so in your tank i probably wouldn't until you can get some stronger lighting. the brain coral is also aggressive, but it likes the bottom of the tank. It once again requires moderate to high lighting, so if i were you, i'd wait until you get stronger lighting.
as far as the pc lighting, how many prongs are on one side of the light?
what my lfs said i was fine for lights!
its a 130 watt
2 65 waat one bulb white with acentic and the other is the same.
i think um good cus there is no way im buying new lights they said i was all set up fro corals,

 

[puffer32]

You are ok for most softies, thats about it, no anenome for sure!

 

[bill109]

Originally Posted by puffer32
You are ok for most softies, thats about it, no anenome for sure!
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!??

can some one list the corals that i want that will work
i am done with this hobby as soon as i get this thing filled up! one persond says this is good better then ok for corals and then i hear no friggin anenime!
can someone tell me why i cant have one its a 130 watt on a 29 gallon
wait can i just buy new lBULBS?
should i start a new thread and tell ppl what i have for lights and tank and they can give me corals for the kind of tank im loookin for.
one more thing i had a atlantic anenome in there for awhile and it was fine then i brought it back to the lfs cus it didnt like my fish or cleaer lol (STING)

 

[michaeltx]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!??
can some one list the corals that i want that will work
i am done with this hobby as soon as i get this thing filled up! one persond says this is good better then ok for corals and then i hear no friggin anenime!
can someone tell me why i cant have one its a 130 watt on a 29 gallon
wait can i just buy new lBULBS?
should i start a new thread and tell ppl what i have for lights and tank and they can give me corals for the kind of tank im loookin for.
one more thing i had a atlantic anenome in there for awhile and it was fine then i brought it back to the lfs cus it didnt like my fish or cleaer lol (STING)
Today 05:12 PM
a few reasons other than lights on the anemone its not just the lights Carpets are super aggressive and will eat your fish if it survives. I have seen people keep them for long periods of time under less light me included I dont recomend it though. even though it lived it didnt thrive and grow. Me and a buddy of mine bought 2 BTAs at the exact same time he has MH lighting I had PC on a 55 gallon. he tripled in size and split 4 times mine was regretable the same size as a bought it. I was new to the hobby and didnt do much reading on them before I bought it as most are. but for one to triple and split and mine to stay the same I see a problem my tank had 275 watts of light on it also.
the condy anemone have a less light requirement to thrive but wander all over the tank at any given time and as you know will sting everything so not a good reef inhabitant.
as far as your list of corals I have been able to keep and they thrived everything but the brain coral the really need a lot of light. most mushroom coarls and softies will be alright but stay away from the SPS, most LPS and Clams and a few others I cant think of right now.
in essence here is my suggestion READ READ READ and ask questions on here and take the advice of people that have been there and done that before. we arent here to get into your pocket the LFS is and if you let them most will take every dime you have and then some we wont.
FWIW
Mike

 

[puffer32]

Start a new thread. I can't really tell you what your lighting can keep, I have a 150 with T'5s and can keep anything, did my research, also have a 15 gal with 95 watts, and know I can't keep an anenome, i researched before I set the tank up, and am ok with that.

 

[chickadee]

firstly, don't get mad cause we tell you that your lights aren't ok for an anemone... You can NEVER trust your LFS! they'll tell you anything to get a sale! Anemones are completely photosynthetic. Your lights, no matter how new the bulb are, won't put out enough lumens to properly support the photosynthetic needs of an anemone... hence no anemone. Please don't give up on the hobby because you're hearing conflicting information.
NOw you have 2 actinic lights. You might want to look into replacing one of them with a daylight bulb, aka a 10000k. This will give your corals a broader spectrum of lighting.
Your lights are good for soft corals, and most large polyp stony (LPS) corals. Anemones are out of the question unless you want to upgrade your lighting, and small polyp stony (SPS) corals too.

 

[chickadee]

oh and, "i'm done with this hobby once this gets filled up" is not a good attitude to have. I hope you don't think that once you get it filled up you don't have to do anything anymore, because this is a full blown long term commitment you're making. You can't just set it up and leave it be... you have to constantly take care of it.

 

[bill109]

Originally Posted by chickadee
oh and, "i'm done with this hobby once this gets filled up" is not a good attitude to have. I hope you don't think that once you get it filled up you don't have to do anything anymore, because this is a full blown long term commitment you're making. You can't just set it up and leave it be... you have to constantly take care of it.
yes i realize but i wdont want to spend any money on anything els but taking crae and keeping my tank healthy
ok can you explain this last thing to me? (not ment to be mad or sound like your wrong but what does this mean? you said the 10,000 k and the lights i have are
I am typing this off the box
" :notsure: the 50/50 lamo combines the daylight rays of the 10,000 and true actinic 02 blue rays to provide optimal lighting required for essential biochemical reactions" :notsure:

 

[chickadee]

ohhh, ok. That's better. I thought you meant both of your lights were just actinics.
Ok, i'm glad you understand the commitment it is to maintain your tank as well. I've seen a lot of people that don't realize this, and their tank end up crashing. Sorry if it seemed like i was jumping down your throat, but it wasn't meant that way. If you have any more questions, please ask!!!

 

[bill109]

Originally Posted by chickadee
ohhh, ok. That's better. I thought you meant both of your lights were just actinics.
Ok, i'm glad you understand the commitment it is to maintain your tank as well. I've seen a lot of people that don't realize this, and their tank end up crashing. Sorry if it seemed like i was jumping down your throat, but it wasn't meant that way. If you have any more questions, please ask!!!
ok so it is or sisnt enough for a anenome now? they are all NOT acentic lol
dont worry about it but it was annoying that i couldnt get an anenome. though but now that i think about it who cares i hear thay are hard to care for
one moer question i have these spiral white worms all over my tank they are verry tiny my lfs guy says that that means the tank is healthy along with perameters.
what do you know about these i thought that they may be tube worms but i wasnt sure what he thought they were he said "like feather dusters" and i said nmo and i dont member what he said.
is 75 dollares a lot to have a lfs guy make a house call? its for 3 hours