Raise the debt ceiling, we dont need any budget cuts to do that...........

reefraff

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Originally Posted by zman1 http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that#post_3508719
This cracks me up. Wasn’t it wrapped up in patriotic propaganda for the motherland, blaming minorities Jews, gypsies, having wealthy financiers, waging war, building up the military. I can see the similarities, but you are trying to identify the wrong party…..
Government propaganda, Attacking Big business, Class warfare, restrictive controls on private enterprise and so on.
 
zman1

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So perhaps neither party are or they both have charateristics. So maybe we should just stop throwing around Hilter. Make sure you let Fox news and talk radio know that, and I'll let MSNBC know - LOL
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by zman1 http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/20#post_3508731
So perhaps neither party are or they both have charateristics. So maybe we should just stop throwing around Hilter. Make sure you let Fox news and talk radio know that, and I'll let MSNBC know - LOL
I don't recall a Republican administration having ifs own propaganda operation, nor have they pushed for oppressive regulations on the private sector, sought gun bans, demonized corporations, engaged in class warfare, Smeared their opposition etc. all hallmarks of the Nazis under Hitler. The biggest difference I can see is the media are willing participants in the 0bama regime.
 
darthtang aw

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You're just having that systemic GOP issue call Romnesia...
Typical, use humor instead of giving examples............
 
zman1

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/20#post_3508744
I don't recall a Republican administration having ifs own propaganda operation (any time a GOP rep gets in front of a camera), nor have they pushed for oppressive regulations on the private sector (Nixon EPA), sought gun bans (Reagan supported Brady bill), demonized corporations (demonize the poor), engaged in class warfare (middle class warfare has been going on for decades), Smeared their opposition (Not call the Republican dirty tricks committee for nothing) etc. all hallmarks of the Nazis under Hitler. The biggest difference I can see is the media are willing participants in the 0bama regime.
To help you with that Romnesia....
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by zman1 http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/20#post_3508763
To help you with that Romnesia....
You seem to be suffering from Husseinity
Name a Republican Administration that had it's own propaganda arm outside the government
Reagan supported the Brady bill in 1991 when it consisted of a background check and a 7 day waiting period to purchase a handgun. No bans involved.
GW Bush and the Republican Congress expanded Medicaid, School lunch programs, CHIPs and Low income pre school assistance among others. "Demonizing the poor" LOL!
What dirty tricks committee? I wish they had one considering the way Romney was slandered. The RNC should have hit back on 0bama.
 
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I don't recall a Republican administration having ifs own propaganda operation (any time a GOP rep gets in front of a camera), nor have they pushed for oppressive regulations on the private sector (Nixon EPA), sought gun bans (Reagan supported Brady bill), demonized corporations (demonize the poor Romney 47%), engaged in class warfare (middle class warfare has been going on for decades), Smeared their opposition (Not call the Republican dirty tricks committee for nothing - Swift boating Kerry) etc. all hallmarks of the Nazis under Hitler. The biggest difference I can see is the media are willing participants in the 0bama regime.
sorry couple more.
You asked for examples, I can't make you like them...
PS - Bush Sr reascended his lifetime NRA membership. Speaking of Nazi calling -
Following is the letter of resignation sent last week by former President George Bush to the National Rifle Association: May 3, 1995
Dear Mr. Washington,
I was outraged when, even in the wake of the Oklahoma City tragedy, Mr. Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of N.R.A., defended his attack on federal agents as "jack-booted thugs." To attack Secret Service agents or A.T.F. people or any government law enforcement people as "wearing Nazi bucket helmets and black storm trooper uniforms" wanting to "attack law abiding citizens" is a vicious slander on good people.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by zman1 http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/20#post_3508770
I don't recall a Republican administration having ifs own propaganda operation (any time a GOP rep gets in front of a camera), nor have they pushed for oppressive regulations on the private sector (Nixon EPA), sought gun bans (Reagan supported Brady bill), demonized corporations (demonize the poor Romney 47%), engaged in class warfare (middle class warfare has been going on for decades), Smeared their opposition (Not call the Republican dirty tricks committee for nothing - Swift boating Kerry) etc. all hallmarks of the Nazis under Hitler. The biggest difference I can see is the media are willing participants in the 0bama regime.
sorry couple more.
You asked for examples, I can't make you like them...
PS - Bush Sr reascended his lifetime NRA membership.
Isn't a matter of like or not. It's a matter of being truth or a lie. You going to compare a candidate in front of a camera with a highly financed propaganda operation? Reagan never supported a gun ban. EPA LOL! In Nixon's day it was used for it's intended purpose, cleaning up dirty water and contaminated soil. The Swift Boat vets were proven correct. Romney never ran campaign ads about the freeloaders.
Oh, and I up until now haven't been a member of the NRA for the same reason Daddy Bush resigned. But 0bama's Nazi tactics have made me grin and bear it.
 
acrylic51

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/20#post_3508767
You seem to be suffering from Husseinity
Name a Republican Administration that had it's own propaganda arm outside the government
Reagan supported the Brady bill in 1991 when it consisted of a background check and a 7 day waiting period to purchase a handgun. No bans involved.
GW Bush and the Republican Congress expanded Medicaid, School lunch programs, CHIPs and Low income pre school assistance among others. "Demonizing the poor" LOL!
What dirty tricks committee? I wish they had one considering the way Romney was slandered. The RNC should have hit back on 0bama.
I agree with most of what your saying, but come on....get over it the bum lost and slandered.....He was a Republican dud......They are all fake....The problem is none of them are in touch with the everyday person and Romney was no better or different than the rest.
 
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/20#post_3508807
I agree with most of what your saying, but come on....get over it the bum lost and slandered.....He was a Republican dud......They are all fake....The problem is none of them are in touch with the everyday person and Romney was no better or different than the rest.
I've been over it for a long time. The utter stupidity of so many voters in this country amazes me. I judge that not on this election but on 2008. Barwreck 0bama and John Mclame were the two best we could come up with? Good lord the country is doomed. No matter what you think of Romney 0bama has been a disaster. Why give him 4 more years?
 
acrylic51

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I agree....Wouldn't give any of them more than 4yrs......It does say something when you stop and look at the candidates we put up there......
 
reefraff

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I'd like to see John Boehner as president. Love him or hate him (far right and left both do) he reminds me of Bob Dole. He'll stick his neck out to get a deal with the other side. That's what we need as a president. People forget the crap W took in his first term for no child left behind, immigration reform and the prescription drug plan for medicare. For all the demonization Bush knew how to work across the isle.
 
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/20#post_3508870
I'd like to see John Boehner as president. Love him or hate him (far right and left both do) he reminds me of Bob Dole. He'll stick his neck out to get a deal with the other side. That's what we need as a president. People forget the crap W took in his first term for no child left behind, immigration reform and the prescription drug plan for medicare. For all the demonization Bush knew how to work across the isle.
Dictator Boehner? You're joking right? That arrogant POS thinks he' the "God of the House". He wields his iron fist and all the Tea Bagger lackey's would wipe his rear if he asked them to. He's made no compromises since Obama has been in office. He spends half his time creating bills specifically to pander to his social ideologies (Planned Parenthood, abortion, gay marriage, etc.). I suppose you'd want Glenn Beck as his Veep.

No Chil Ledt Behind? You mean the biggest epic fail in the history of this country's educational system? Schools are still suffering today because of that useless law. Teachers don't teach anymore, they "teach to the test". Dubya should've been impeached for that disaster.
Yea, old Dubya worked well across the isle. So well that he put us in the biggest Recession since the Great Depression in the 20's.
 
darthtang aw

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Dictator Boehner?  You're joking right?  That arrogant POS thinks he' the "God of the House".  He wields his iron fist and all the Tea Bagger lackey's would wipe his rear if he asked them to.  He's made no compromises since Obama has been in office.  He spends half his time creating bills specifically to pander to his social ideologies (Planned Parenthood, abortion, gay marriage, etc.).  I suppose you'd want Glenn Beck as his Veep. :rotfl:
No Chil Ledt Behind?  You mean the biggest epic fail in the history of this country's educational system?  Schools are still suffering today because of that useless law.  Teachers don't teach anymore, they "teach to the test".  Dubya should've been impeached for that disaster.
Yea, old Dubya worked well across the isle.  So well that he put us in the biggest Recession since the Great Depression in the 20's.
So working across the aisle is a bad thing. meaning Boehner should stick to the tea party guns instead of compromising like he has been recently with the President and The senate. Stop speaking out of both sides of your mouth. You are worse than politicians.
 
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/20#post_3508872
Dictator Boehner? You're joking right? That arrogant POS thinks he' the "God of the House". He wields his iron fist and all the Tea Bagger lackey's would wipe his rear if he asked them to. He's made no compromises since Obama has been in office. He spends half his time creating bills specifically to pander to his social ideologies (Planned Parenthood, abortion, gay marriage, etc.). I suppose you'd want Glenn Beck as his Veep.

No Chil Ledt Behind? You mean the biggest epic fail in the history of this country's educational system? Schools are still suffering today because of that useless law. Teachers don't teach anymore, they "teach to the test". Dubya should've been impeached for that disaster.
Yea, old Dubya worked well across the isle. So well that he put us in the biggest Recession since the Great Depression in the 20's.
You really aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer are you? The arrogant POS is the Chicagofuhrer. Boehner tried one deal and the tea party folks wouldn't back it. Remember plan B? 0bama on the other hand plays to the far left pedophile wing of the Democrat party. (see, lame derogatory names can fly both directions) He wont consider any spending cuts period. I guess you definition of compromise is bow to the will of 0bama
 
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/20#post_3508892
You really aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer are you? The arrogant POS is the Chicagofuhrer. Boehner tried one deal and the tea party folks wouldn't back it. Remember plan B? 0bama on the other hand plays to the far left pedophile wing of the Democrat party. (see, lame derogatory names can fly both directions) He wont consider any spending cuts period. I guess you definition of compromise is bow to the will of 0bama
He won't agree to any spending cuts?
The White House says the president’s plan would cut spending by $1.22 trillion over 10 years, compared with $1.2 trillion in cuts from the Republicans’ initial offer. Of that, $800 billion is cuts to programs, and $122 billion comes from adopting a new measure of inflation that slows the growth of government benefits, especially Social Security. The White House is also counting on $290 billion in savings from lower interest costs on a reduced national debt.
Of the $800 billion in straight cuts, the president said half would come from federal health care programs; $200 billion from other so-called mandatory programs, like farm price supports, not subject to Congress’s annual spending bills; $100 billion from military spending; and $100 billion from domestic programs under Congress’s annual discretion
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/tables.pdf
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/12/11/president-obamas-record-and-proposals-cutting-spending
The difference between you and me is I don't "live in the bubble" like you NeoCon sheeple that believe anything and everything idiots like Boehner and the Right-wing media tell you.
 
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/20#post_3508979
He won't agree to any spending cuts?
The White House says the president’s plan would cut spending by $1.22 trillion over 10 years, compared with $1.2 trillion in cuts from the Republicans’ initial offer. Of that, $800 billion is cuts to programs, and $122 billion comes from adopting a new measure of inflation that slows the growth of government benefits, especially Social Security. The White House is also counting on $290 billion in savings from lower interest costs on a reduced national debt.
Of the $800 billion in straight cuts, the president said half would come from federal health care programs; $200 billion from other so-called mandatory programs, like farm price supports, not subject to Congress’s annual spending bills; $100 billion from military spending; and $100 billion from domestic programs under Congress’s annual discretion
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/tables.pdf
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/12/11/president-obamas-record-and-proposals-cutting-spending
The difference between you and me is I don't "live in the bubble" like you NeoCon sheeple that believe anything and everything idiots like Boehner and the Right-wing media tell you.
Right
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-digs-heels-refuses-negotiate-debt-ceiling-010611330--business.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-15/obama-vows-no-negotiations-on-debt-as-deficit-talks-loom.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/14/usa-obama-newsconference-idUSL2N0AJ39U20130114
 
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