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btldreef
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I got a purple and three others. My husband and I are currently disputing what they are, we'll have to wait and see what they look like tomorrow when the lights come on. I've heard that Anthias can be tough, but I seem to have better luck with tougher fish than the easy ones, LOL
btldreef
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I have two that are coming out. I figured out what I bought finally now that they came into the open. One is a female purple queen (I'll get getting another one) and the other three are either Dispar's or Ignitus Anthias, I'm thinking Dispars, but we'll see. If I walk near the tank to look, they dart. They are schooling together though, so we'll see. I'm going to feed the tank later and hopefully they'll come out. I have a mean Angelfish and she may be scaring them at the moment. I was doing a lot of research today and read that the Purples are not that hard to keep, most people/sites say that they're moderate. There are much more difficult species of Anthias, so you should be okay.
My male dispar has pop eye and is in my QT right now, he's the only one that's not hiding, go figure.
My male dispar has pop eye and is in my QT right now, he's the only one that's not hiding, go figure.
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eric b 125
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do you not qt your fish before putting them into the dt? also: i would not suggest getting anymore tangs. especially not a naso, they simply get too big for a 90. a sailfin wouldnt work either, because of the similar body shape as the yellow. in a larger environment it could work, though. with 15 fish youre probably maxed out. its not just a matter of water parameters, but also of the stress level of the fish. there may be a lot of movement and color in the tank, but each fish needs its own territory and place to relax and sleep.
btldreef
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I agree about not adding any more tangs. But disagree about number of fish. I have 10 fish and plan on adding many more. Many of the fish he lists are schooling fish or live in separate areas of the tank and many of his fish are peaceful. A lot depends on what type of fish are in your tank. You can't have 15 tangs.
If you're staying on top of your water changes and parameters and have a good protein skimmer you're fine. I've seen quite a few 75G+ tanks with numerous little fish.
If you're staying on top of your water changes and parameters and have a good protein skimmer you're fine. I've seen quite a few 75G+ tanks with numerous little fish.
thang45
Member
Originally Posted by Eric B 125
http:///forum/post/3152624
do you not qt your fish before putting them into the dt? also: i would not suggest getting anymore tangs. especially not a naso, they simply get too big for a 90. a sailfin wouldnt work either, because of the similar body shape as the yellow. in a larger environment it could work, though. with 15 fish youre probably maxed out. its not just a matter of water parameters, but also of the stress level of the fish. there may be a lot of movement and color in the tank, but each fish needs its own territory and place to relax and sleep.
No, I don't use QT. I know it is very bad.
You got a great point about the space and tang.
I finally found the Midas Blenny, and also bought the bicolor blenny. I wish I have not because in the marine fishes, they said that the bicolor might each coral.
Total I have 15 fishes. Most of them are small.
Originally Posted by BTLDreef
http:///forum/post/3152632
I agree about not adding any more tangs. But disagree about number of fish. I have 10 fish and plan on adding many more. Many of the fish he lists are schooling fish or live in separate areas of the tank and many of his fish are peaceful. A lot depends on what type of fish are in your tank. You can't have 15 tangs.
If you're staying on top of your water changes and parameters and have a good protein skimmer you're fine. I've seen quite a few 75G+ tanks with numerous little fish.
How big is your tank? Can I have a list of you fishes?
BTW, I bought 2 Emerald Crab because the staff at big als says that they eat bubble algae. Is this true?
I usually do research before I buy, but sometimes it doesn't always work out that way.
http:///forum/post/3152624
do you not qt your fish before putting them into the dt? also: i would not suggest getting anymore tangs. especially not a naso, they simply get too big for a 90. a sailfin wouldnt work either, because of the similar body shape as the yellow. in a larger environment it could work, though. with 15 fish youre probably maxed out. its not just a matter of water parameters, but also of the stress level of the fish. there may be a lot of movement and color in the tank, but each fish needs its own territory and place to relax and sleep.
No, I don't use QT. I know it is very bad.
You got a great point about the space and tang.
I finally found the Midas Blenny, and also bought the bicolor blenny. I wish I have not because in the marine fishes, they said that the bicolor might each coral.
Total I have 15 fishes. Most of them are small.
Originally Posted by BTLDreef
http:///forum/post/3152632
I agree about not adding any more tangs. But disagree about number of fish. I have 10 fish and plan on adding many more. Many of the fish he lists are schooling fish or live in separate areas of the tank and many of his fish are peaceful. A lot depends on what type of fish are in your tank. You can't have 15 tangs.
If you're staying on top of your water changes and parameters and have a good protein skimmer you're fine. I've seen quite a few 75G+ tanks with numerous little fish.
How big is your tank? Can I have a list of you fishes?
BTW, I bought 2 Emerald Crab because the staff at big als says that they eat bubble algae. Is this true?
I usually do research before I buy, but sometimes it doesn't always work out that way.
btldreef
Moderator
Originally Posted by thang45
http:///forum/post/3153175
How big is your tank? Can I have a list of you fishes?
BTW, I bought 2 Emerald Crab because the staff at big als says that they eat bubble algae. Is this true?
I usually do research before I buy, but sometimes it doesn't always work out that way.
Your two blennies will probably fight. I'd return the bicolor if you can. You're really only supposed to keep one blenny per tank, unless it's a very large tank.
Yes emeralds will eat bubble algae. However, once that's gone, there can be issues. I had one eat all the coraline algae out of my 40G after the bubble algae was gone. I think my tank was just too clean for him. I also had one do the same thing in my 14G once the bubble algae was gone, but that time I know there just wasn't any other food for him.
You can set up a small QT tank for not that much money. If you think about how much money is invested in your tank, isn't another $100-$200 worth it to save thousands in investment? If you look on Craigslist or local reef forums, sometimes you can find tank setups for cheap (and sometimes free). I got my 155G for free, so you never know.
I just upgraded from a 40G to a 155G.
Currently I have:
2 Yellow Watchman Gobies
1 Green Spotted Mandarin**
1 Coral Beauty**
2 Percula Clownfish** (people argue over whether they're true percs or not)
2 Dispar Anthias (I will be adding probably 2 more)
1 Purple Queen Anthias female (I will be adding one more)
2 Skunk Cleaner Shrimp** (will add 1 more soon)
10 Nassarius Snails**
10 Astrea Snails**
8 Cerith Snails**
1 Porcelain Anemone Crab**
Tons of hermits**
2 Green Bubbletip Anemones**
1 Rose Bubbletip**
2 Sandsifting starfish**
**= came out of 40G, plus a dragon goby that died during transition. We also had a 6 line wrasse in the 40G, what a mistake that was.
Will Be adding (besides the anthias)
2-3 Cardinals (probably Bangai's)
2-3 Firefish
Blonde Naso Tang
Desjardini Sailfin Tang
Yellow Tang (maybe, and it's a big maybe)
Flame Angelfish (if we don't get a yellow tang, we'll probably be getting this since my husband is set on it)
Blue Reef Chromis (3-5)
Green (Silver) Chromis (3-5)
Dragon Goby
3-5 Citron and/or Clown Gobies
1 or 2 Neon Gobies
http:///forum/post/3153175
How big is your tank? Can I have a list of you fishes?
BTW, I bought 2 Emerald Crab because the staff at big als says that they eat bubble algae. Is this true?
I usually do research before I buy, but sometimes it doesn't always work out that way.
Your two blennies will probably fight. I'd return the bicolor if you can. You're really only supposed to keep one blenny per tank, unless it's a very large tank.
Yes emeralds will eat bubble algae. However, once that's gone, there can be issues. I had one eat all the coraline algae out of my 40G after the bubble algae was gone. I think my tank was just too clean for him. I also had one do the same thing in my 14G once the bubble algae was gone, but that time I know there just wasn't any other food for him.
You can set up a small QT tank for not that much money. If you think about how much money is invested in your tank, isn't another $100-$200 worth it to save thousands in investment? If you look on Craigslist or local reef forums, sometimes you can find tank setups for cheap (and sometimes free). I got my 155G for free, so you never know.
I just upgraded from a 40G to a 155G.
Currently I have:
2 Yellow Watchman Gobies
1 Green Spotted Mandarin**
1 Coral Beauty**
2 Percula Clownfish** (people argue over whether they're true percs or not)
2 Dispar Anthias (I will be adding probably 2 more)
1 Purple Queen Anthias female (I will be adding one more)
2 Skunk Cleaner Shrimp** (will add 1 more soon)
10 Nassarius Snails**
10 Astrea Snails**
8 Cerith Snails**
1 Porcelain Anemone Crab**
Tons of hermits**
2 Green Bubbletip Anemones**
1 Rose Bubbletip**
2 Sandsifting starfish**
**= came out of 40G, plus a dragon goby that died during transition. We also had a 6 line wrasse in the 40G, what a mistake that was.
Will Be adding (besides the anthias)
2-3 Cardinals (probably Bangai's)
2-3 Firefish
Blonde Naso Tang
Desjardini Sailfin Tang
Yellow Tang (maybe, and it's a big maybe)
Flame Angelfish (if we don't get a yellow tang, we'll probably be getting this since my husband is set on it)
Blue Reef Chromis (3-5)
Green (Silver) Chromis (3-5)
Dragon Goby
3-5 Citron and/or Clown Gobies
1 or 2 Neon Gobies
thang45
Member
Originally Posted by BTLDreef
http:///forum/post/3153417
Your two blennies will probably fight. I'd return the bicolor if you can. You're really only supposed to keep one blenny per tank, unless it's a very large tank.
Yes emeralds will eat bubble algae. However, once that's gone, there can be issues. I had one eat all the coraline algae out of my 40G after the bubble algae was gone. I think my tank was just too clean for him. I also had one do the same thing in my 14G once the bubble algae was gone, but that time I know there just wasn't any other food for him.
You can set up a small QT tank for not that much money. If you think about how much money is invested in your tank, isn't another $100-$200 worth it to save thousands in investment? If you look on Craigslist or local reef forums, sometimes you can find tank setups for cheap (and sometimes free). I got my 155G for free, so you never know.
I just upgraded from a 40G to a 155G.
Currently I have:
2 Yellow Watchman Gobies
1 Green Spotted Mandarin**
1 Coral Beauty**
2 Percula Clownfish** (people argue over whether they're true percs or not)
2 Dispar Anthias (I will be adding probably 2 more)
1 Purple Queen Anthias female (I will be adding one more)
2 Skunk Cleaner Shrimp** (will add 1 more soon)
10 Nassarius Snails**
10 Astrea Snails**
8 Cerith Snails**
1 Porcelain Anemone Crab**
Tons of hermits**
2 Green Bubbletip Anemones**
1 Rose Bubbletip**
2 Sandsifting starfish**
**= came out of 40G, plus a dragon goby that died during transition. We also had a 6 line wrasse in the 40G, what a mistake that was.
Will Be adding (besides the anthias)
2-3 Cardinals (probably Bangai's)
2-3 Firefish
Blonde Naso Tang
Desjardini Sailfin Tang
Yellow Tang (maybe, and it's a big maybe)
Flame Angelfish (if we don't get a yellow tang, we'll probably be getting this since my husband is set on it)
Blue Reef Chromis (3-5)
Green (Silver) Chromis (3-5)
Dragon Goby
3-5 Citron and/or Clown Gobies
1 or 2 Neon Gobies
Wow, that is a lot of fishes you got there.
Is 90g too small for both blennies? I have not seen the bicolor anywhere, but the midas is right beside my clam. He is very cute. I guess he still young that is why his color is not yellow.
I do have lots of tanks to use as QT, but I got too lazy I guess.
http:///forum/post/3153417
Your two blennies will probably fight. I'd return the bicolor if you can. You're really only supposed to keep one blenny per tank, unless it's a very large tank.
Yes emeralds will eat bubble algae. However, once that's gone, there can be issues. I had one eat all the coraline algae out of my 40G after the bubble algae was gone. I think my tank was just too clean for him. I also had one do the same thing in my 14G once the bubble algae was gone, but that time I know there just wasn't any other food for him.
You can set up a small QT tank for not that much money. If you think about how much money is invested in your tank, isn't another $100-$200 worth it to save thousands in investment? If you look on Craigslist or local reef forums, sometimes you can find tank setups for cheap (and sometimes free). I got my 155G for free, so you never know.
I just upgraded from a 40G to a 155G.
Currently I have:
2 Yellow Watchman Gobies
1 Green Spotted Mandarin**
1 Coral Beauty**
2 Percula Clownfish** (people argue over whether they're true percs or not)
2 Dispar Anthias (I will be adding probably 2 more)
1 Purple Queen Anthias female (I will be adding one more)
2 Skunk Cleaner Shrimp** (will add 1 more soon)
10 Nassarius Snails**
10 Astrea Snails**
8 Cerith Snails**
1 Porcelain Anemone Crab**
Tons of hermits**
2 Green Bubbletip Anemones**
1 Rose Bubbletip**
2 Sandsifting starfish**
**= came out of 40G, plus a dragon goby that died during transition. We also had a 6 line wrasse in the 40G, what a mistake that was.
Will Be adding (besides the anthias)
2-3 Cardinals (probably Bangai's)
2-3 Firefish
Blonde Naso Tang
Desjardini Sailfin Tang
Yellow Tang (maybe, and it's a big maybe)
Flame Angelfish (if we don't get a yellow tang, we'll probably be getting this since my husband is set on it)
Blue Reef Chromis (3-5)
Green (Silver) Chromis (3-5)
Dragon Goby
3-5 Citron and/or Clown Gobies
1 or 2 Neon Gobies
Wow, that is a lot of fishes you got there.
Is 90g too small for both blennies? I have not seen the bicolor anywhere, but the midas is right beside my clam. He is very cute. I guess he still young that is why his color is not yellow.
I do have lots of tanks to use as QT, but I got too lazy I guess.
btldreef
Moderator
Originally Posted by thang45
http:///forum/post/3153484
Wow, that is a lot of fishes you got there.
Is 90g too small for both blennies? I have not seen the bicolor anywhere, but the midas is right beside my clam. He is very cute. I guess he still young that is why his color is not yellow.
I do have lots of tanks to use as QT, but I got too lazy I guess.
Yeah .. our water quality has always been good, but we're really meticulous about water changes and keeping things clean (not over feeding, etc). All our fish have always seemed very happy. It just depends on what you add and how you add them. Forgot to mention that we also had a blenny in the 40, he died of old age, I'll be getting one again as soons as my LFS gets another one in.
I don't know if a 90 will be big enough for both blennies. I've never kept two together but I've been told by numerous people that you can not keep keep two together. I also was once told that you can't keep two gobies in a tank together and I've done it more than once, I've even mixed different species, so who knows? I really want a Midas, but I need the Lawnmower and I'm afraid to have both in my tank.
http:///forum/post/3153484
Wow, that is a lot of fishes you got there.
Is 90g too small for both blennies? I have not seen the bicolor anywhere, but the midas is right beside my clam. He is very cute. I guess he still young that is why his color is not yellow.
I do have lots of tanks to use as QT, but I got too lazy I guess.
Yeah .. our water quality has always been good, but we're really meticulous about water changes and keeping things clean (not over feeding, etc). All our fish have always seemed very happy. It just depends on what you add and how you add them. Forgot to mention that we also had a blenny in the 40, he died of old age, I'll be getting one again as soons as my LFS gets another one in.
I don't know if a 90 will be big enough for both blennies. I've never kept two together but I've been told by numerous people that you can not keep keep two together. I also was once told that you can't keep two gobies in a tank together and I've done it more than once, I've even mixed different species, so who knows? I really want a Midas, but I need the Lawnmower and I'm afraid to have both in my tank.
btldreef
Moderator
Originally Posted by thang45
http:///forum/post/3153862
BTW, my Midas's head always bounce up and down, is that their behavior?
Originally Posted by thang45
http:///forum/post/3153859
Ok, I will keep both blennies and will update you if I see any trouble.
I will trade my orange goby for the Lawnmower today.
If I'm not mistaken, the Lawnmower, midas and bicolor are in the same family? does this mean I'm pushing it if I get the Lawnmower?
Why are you going to return the goby?
I would not get a lawnmower, especially since you have two other blennies already. It's risky.
http:///forum/post/3153862
BTW, my Midas's head always bounce up and down, is that their behavior?
Originally Posted by thang45
http:///forum/post/3153859
Ok, I will keep both blennies and will update you if I see any trouble.
I will trade my orange goby for the Lawnmower today.
If I'm not mistaken, the Lawnmower, midas and bicolor are in the same family? does this mean I'm pushing it if I get the Lawnmower?
Why are you going to return the goby?
I would not get a lawnmower, especially since you have two other blennies already. It's risky.
thang45
Member
Originally Posted by BTLDreef
http:///forum/post/3154196
Why are you going to return the goby?
I would not get a lawnmower, especially since you have two other blennies already. It's risky.
The goby is making huge mountain and covering the corals. I think I'm going to exchange it for the yellow clown goby.
Opps, too late. I got him too. Now I have three blennies.
I have a lot of hiding places, I hope it is ok. I will keep an eye on them and if i see they are fighting then I will remove the lawnmower.
My lfs will bring in some ventralis anthias. If there are nice, then it will be the last fishes I will buy.
I went for 8 months without adding new fish and all of a sudden I want to buy everything.
http:///forum/post/3154196
Why are you going to return the goby?
I would not get a lawnmower, especially since you have two other blennies already. It's risky.
The goby is making huge mountain and covering the corals. I think I'm going to exchange it for the yellow clown goby.
Opps, too late. I got him too. Now I have three blennies.
I have a lot of hiding places, I hope it is ok. I will keep an eye on them and if i see they are fighting then I will remove the lawnmower.
My lfs will bring in some ventralis anthias. If there are nice, then it will be the last fishes I will buy.
I went for 8 months without adding new fish and all of a sudden I want to buy everything.
btldreef
Moderator
A yellow clown goby has no beneficial qualities like the other goby does. A clown goby is basically "just another fish". Some gobies do not sift sand at all, while others sift a little, and then others sift A LOT.
What kind of goby do you have exactly?
Try a diamond goby (I think this might be what you have though). They tend to really stick close to the sand and not swim around while sifting sand so no sand storm in the tank. I have had absolutely no luck with diamond gobies, I have no idea why. Most people have them and swear by them and they're supposed to be a very easy fish to care for. I love the Dragon Goby (Sleeper Banded Bullet Goby), BUT, they are hit or miss with whether they stay to the bottom or not. I've had three, two sprayed sand everywhere and the other did not.
DO NOT GET A GOLDEN HEADED SLEEPER GOBY. I hate them! They fight and created a disaster in my tank, and then when floor surfing.
Yellow watchman gobies will sift sand a little and normally stay close to the bottom as well. You may even be able to find a mated pair (as I have). They're really cool to watch swim and work together.
What kind of goby do you have exactly?
Try a diamond goby (I think this might be what you have though). They tend to really stick close to the sand and not swim around while sifting sand so no sand storm in the tank. I have had absolutely no luck with diamond gobies, I have no idea why. Most people have them and swear by them and they're supposed to be a very easy fish to care for. I love the Dragon Goby (Sleeper Banded Bullet Goby), BUT, they are hit or miss with whether they stay to the bottom or not. I've had three, two sprayed sand everywhere and the other did not.
DO NOT GET A GOLDEN HEADED SLEEPER GOBY. I hate them! They fight and created a disaster in my tank, and then when floor surfing.
Yellow watchman gobies will sift sand a little and normally stay close to the bottom as well. You may even be able to find a mated pair (as I have). They're really cool to watch swim and work together.
thang45
Member
I did a search and the goby that I have looks more like the Diamond Watchman Goby. Funny, all this time I thought I had the orange goby. Do a Daimond goby create sand storm?
I did a search on all the gobies you have mentioned, and I thought GOLDEN HEADED SLEEPER GOBY is the best looking one. But too bad they are trouble.
BTW, I saw Yellow watchman at big als and the staff told me that he had pair up with a shrimp. What's up with that?
I did a search on all the gobies you have mentioned, and I thought GOLDEN HEADED SLEEPER GOBY is the best looking one. But too bad they are trouble.
BTW, I saw Yellow watchman at big als and the staff told me that he had pair up with a shrimp. What's up with that?
btldreef
Moderator
Originally Posted by thang45
http:///forum/post/3154331
I did a search and the goby that I have looks more like the Diamond Watchman Goby. Funny, all this time I thought I had the orange goby. Do a Daimond goby create sand storm?
I did a search on all the gobies you have mentioned, and I thought GOLDEN HEADED SLEEPER GOBY is the best looking one. But too bad they are trouble.
BTW, I saw Yellow watchman at big als and the staff told me that he had pair up with a shrimp. What's up with that?
The diamond goby should not be creating a sand storm all over your tank. Maybe try a different one? For the most part the stay to the sand. They're called a million different things, orange spottend, diamond, etc. so you were probably sold it under a different name, that's all.
Yeah, that's what I thought about the golden sleeper goby as well. I had two, it was a disaster.
The yellow watchman definitely does not need to be paired with a pistol shrimp. If you look at the list on SWF.com, you'll see the "shrimp gobies", they're the ones that can be paired, but it's still not necessary for their survival, nor a guarantee that they will pair. SWF lists the yellow watchman as a shrimp goby, but they are one of the few sites I've seen that does. I have two in my 155, they're a mated pair and they do not have pistol shrimp with them.
http:///forum/post/3154331
I did a search and the goby that I have looks more like the Diamond Watchman Goby. Funny, all this time I thought I had the orange goby. Do a Daimond goby create sand storm?
I did a search on all the gobies you have mentioned, and I thought GOLDEN HEADED SLEEPER GOBY is the best looking one. But too bad they are trouble.
BTW, I saw Yellow watchman at big als and the staff told me that he had pair up with a shrimp. What's up with that?
The diamond goby should not be creating a sand storm all over your tank. Maybe try a different one? For the most part the stay to the sand. They're called a million different things, orange spottend, diamond, etc. so you were probably sold it under a different name, that's all.
Yeah, that's what I thought about the golden sleeper goby as well. I had two, it was a disaster.
The yellow watchman definitely does not need to be paired with a pistol shrimp. If you look at the list on SWF.com, you'll see the "shrimp gobies", they're the ones that can be paired, but it's still not necessary for their survival, nor a guarantee that they will pair. SWF lists the yellow watchman as a shrimp goby, but they are one of the few sites I've seen that does. I have two in my 155, they're a mated pair and they do not have pistol shrimp with them.