refugium

freeweights

Member
O.K. Got a good one for you. I have a 37 gal Eclips 3, filter built into the hood. I want to try and use a 20 gal spare fish tank that i don't use to make a refugium.I will have to use a siphon pipe cause i don't have the tank drilled. Anyone have any ideas on how to build it? Glueing seperators and how high each one has to be.And what type of pump i have to use??? Would appreciate any suggestions. Or am i just looking for trouble???
 

rykna

Active Member
I have tried to make a sump tank as well, witht he very same questions. There is one pump that I want to get.
Continuous Siphon Overflow
To place your overflow into operation:
1. Before using the overflow for the first time, it is important to decide where to position the unit. It is best to have the overflow as far away from the inflow as possible to reduce turbulence. It is also important to check the capacity of your sump as well as the flow rate of your return pump on your filtration system to prevent possible overflow. It will be necessary to add water to the system after it begins running. The amount of water that you will need to add will depend on the sump size and design.
2. Assemble the bulkhead fitting as shown in the diagram on your instructions. Insert the pre-filter screen into the bulkhead and place the pre-filter sponge over the screen. Insert the vent tube into the hole at the top of the pre filter screen. The "O-ring" can slide up or down to adjust the height of the vent tube once the unit is operational.
3. Connect the bulkhead to the hose going into your filtration system. You should use PVC tubing inserted into the bulkhead. The PVC can be run directly into the filter or can be attached to flexible line using fittings. The fewer bends in the line, the quieter the siphon will operate. To prevent leaking from where the PVC inserts into the bulkhead, you should use PVC cement to secure it into place (this, however, will make the connection permanent).
4. Place the unit on the edge of your tank and allow the water to fill the front chamber. Adjust the lower adjustment screws so that the unit is parallel to the back of the tank.
5. Adjust the height of the unit with the two top adjustment screws so the water level is about 1/4" above the edge of the front chamber. Make sure that the overflow is level with the water surface, not necessarily the tank, as some tanks may not be perfectly level. If you have small fish, adjust the fish screen so that the fish cannot enter the overflow.
6. Using a container of water from your aquarium, fill the narrow chamber in the back of the overflow to the top. To start and maintain the siphon overflow, draw the air out through the

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on top of the overflow by one of the following methods: a Venturi powerhead, plugging the air

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, or gravity siphon.
7. When you initially start the siphon overflow, it will drain water from your aquarium down to the level of the front edge of the overflow box. The sump part of the filter should begin to fill with water. It may be necessary to add water to the sump if the return pump is not completely submerged. Make sure that the return hose is firmly attached to the return pump before plugging in the pump.
8. Plug in the return pump. Keep an eye on the water level in the tank to make sure the overflow starts its siphon. Water should start draining down the overflow. At this point, direct your attention to the sump to make sure the return pump is still completely submerged, or that the sump is not overflowing. It may be necessary to add or remove water from the sump at this point. Continue to monitor both the tank and the sump for a few minutes to ensure that the system is working consistently.
9. The water level in the aquarium can be adjusted by using the two top adjustment screws on the overflow. This is usually necessary once the overflow has been operational for a few minutes. By lowering the water level in the aquarium, you will raise the level in the sump and possibly overflow it. By raising the water level in the aquarium, you will lower the water level in the sump and the return pump could possibly burn out if not completely submerged. Add or remove water as needed.
10. At certain flow rates, there will be a flushing noise coming from the overflow. This noise is caused by air trying to escape back up through the bulkhead while the water is going down. The enclosed vent tube will help reduce the level of noise. Place the tube through the small hole in the pre-filter screen and adjust it up or down until you find the point where the noise is reduced the most. Slide the small "O-ring" down until it reaches the pre-filter screen, securing the position of the vent tube.
Your overflow will then be in operation.
Item# Area
Behind
Tank Bulkhead
Size # of
Bulkheads # of
Sponges Gallons
Per
Hour
790065 4-1/2" 3/4" 1 1 300
790078 5" 1" 1 1 600
790091 5" 1" 1 1 800
790104 5" 1" 2 2 1200
790117 6" 1-1/2" 1 none 1600
Hope this helps
 

freeweights

Member
WOW you really are way ahead of me on this.You really know you'r stuff. But what i'm trying to accomplish first is making a refugium from a regular 20 gal. fish tank. gluing in the seperators ect.
 

rykna

Active Member
Originally Posted by freeweights
WOW you really are way ahead of me on this.You really know you'r stuff. But what i'm trying to accomplish first is making a refugium from a regular 20 gal. fish tank. gluing in the seperators ect.
For that I would ask Bang Guy. I can find you tons of info, and thank you hope the info helps, but I have never actually set up a sump or a refugium. Although I have drawn up several designs.
 

bang guy

Moderator
Originally Posted by freeweights
WOW you really are way ahead of me on this.You really know you'r stuff. But what i'm trying to accomplish first is making a refugium from a regular 20 gal. fish tank. gluing in the seperators ect.
A couple questions first:
1 - What will be the primary purpose of your refugium? That can make a big difference on the design.
2 - Will the refugium be visible? i.e. Does it need to look pretty?
 

freeweights

Member
Well i wanted to place it under the tank. Inside the cabinet.and have the hoses go down the back of the tank cause i have a nice color blue on the back of the tank "painted on" So anything going down the back will not be seen. The tank is against the wall. appreciate any suggestions you mite have.
 

bang guy

Moderator
I'm a minimalist so I can advise on what I have done or would do in your situation.
But, I still need to know what your intended use is for the refugium.
Will it double as a sump? - Heaters, skimmer, etc.?
Nutrient control?
Natural Food supply?
More water volume?
etc....
 
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