Ro/di Units

matttamar

Member
I tried posting this on the equipment forum with no results. Recently I checked out the online auction site for RO/DI units and the prices ranged from $69-$300. What do you look for in a quality RO unit? I am on a budget but would like to give my livestock the best conditions possible. I am also getting ready to purchase my first corals, I have a post in the photo section with pics and tank equipment listed. I would love to hear suggestions from the expierenced reefers on this site about additional equipment I should purchase and just general tips and suggestions. :needhelp:
 

who dey

Active Member
i got a seachem pinnacle 35gpd for $189 on swf.com. works great! i have no algae other than coraline and my reef is goin nutz!!!!
 

bbnglodt

New Member
Hmmmm, good question, BTW this I'm new to the forums. Pediatric doc in the AF. 55 gallon, with 30 gallon fuge (in the strict definition), about to put horsies in it. I also debated the R/O issue, even though it seems like you decided to go with one already. Here are my 2 cents.
So in making the decision to get one or not I did a test. My wife refuses to drink tap water so we have a brita. I took Brita filtered water and left in a bucket for 30 minutes and tested for nitrates, nitrites, and ammonia. All negative.
I did the same thing, and this time added ammonia detox, and dechlorinator to the bucket and let it sit for only 5 minutes... again all negative.
So I didnt get one, likely because I just bought a new car (sweet chrysler 300 limited, loaded... gawd its beautiful), and have been spending loot like crazy...which disappoints my wife... also a physician, AND we have no kids, and doing financially very well so I dont know what her deal is, but that's a different story!!.
Anyhow this is what you need to understand. Tap water varies from area to area, AND from day to day with in the same area. ( am currently going to repeat my tests once a week with water changes for the next month). As far as costs go... I go through a brita filter with such heavy use every 3 months. they are sold in packs of two for 30 bucks, initial investment is like 50 bucks. So...
1. Over 2 years you can get a pretty good quality R/O unit with same money
2. However does not cost as much up front.
3. Water parameters change in tap, if your tap water is really sucky, this may not be a viable option... but IS worth the test if for no other reason than your edification.
4. I do ALWAYS use the dechlorinator and the ammonia detox out of habit and this was not factored into cost.
5. I used salifert tests to test all parameters noted, so those are accurate, however... I did not test other things outside of ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate which where my primary concerns.
Conclusion- If you are primarily concerned with ammonia, nitrate, and nitrite, and you already have a Brita, it presents a viable option to R/O, though it in no way makes water as pristine as a R/O unit. Most of my buddies use a seachem and they are pleased with em. So once my wife gets off my case, I'll get one myself, however in the meantime, I have been satisfied with Brita, ammonia detox, and dechlroination additives, and my tank is doing great.
Anyways just my two cents. Maybe helpful for those who cant afford an R/O unit or who's significant others are reluctant to part with the dough.
I know that wasnt your question, but hey, it seemed a good place to post my "study" :)
 

sato

Member
However there is so much more in tap water then just Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate to worry about and those are the real problem. Heavy metals, Phosphates, Silicates, Chlorine, etc. etc.
 

who dey

Active Member
sodium fluoride
sodium cyanide
sodium chloride
silica
sodium bicarbonate
sodium nitrate
magnesium chloride
calcium chloride
magnesium sulfate
nickel sulfate
copper sulfate
formaldehyde
methanol
ethanol
isopropanol
urea
lactic acid
glucose
sucrose
chlorinated pesticides
RO process removes 99%of these from the water
 

bbnglodt

New Member
True, but most of the metals, from the company literature are removed with the filter as well as nearly all particulate matter. As far as the chlorine, Kent dechlorinator does very well. I tested how good it was about two months ago, comparing different brands and all. They all did about the same BTW, even the cheapie stuff (though I always stick to the "name brand" stuff for my own tank... call me snobby!
). Anyways. I agree, you cant compete with R/O DI, BUT, as an alternative it works ok, at least for the short run.
 

who dey

Active Member
have you ever taken a brita apart?? all thats in there is a carbon cartridge. so it's really not a very effective process. not much different than having your filter on the tank
 

bbnglodt

New Member
I see the list you posted and agree. However the levels of most of those are extemely low, as in nondetectable, or completely absent. However, as I stated initially, nothing will replace an R/O DI unit for clariy and quality. It still does not change the fact that what I presented is a viable option for those without or without the means to get one. As the water is more clear than straight tap, even with additives.
 

bbnglodt

New Member
I say extremely low from having had the unpleasant opportunity of reviewing water quality from medical perspective as it pertains to pediatric health care. Though by no means nearly as precise as that which most of us strive to obtain. What you didnt include in your list is transient bacteria, that most likely gets picked up from the faucet.
Not sure if R/O will remove those? do you know? Just curious.
 

matttamar

Member
Thank You everyone for your responses. I apreciate everyone recomending different brands of RO/DI units but it still does not answer my original question, what do you look for in a quality Ro unit? Currently I am using a cheap water filter from ***** and it feeds into my brita filter. But this was only a temporary thing, every time I use this water during a water change I get diatom algae everywhere in my tank(sand/LR/Glass) so my current method of filtration isnt taking out all of the phosphates and silica.That being said my new question is, will a RO/DI unit fix this problem?(My nitrates, nitrites, amonia is at 0, PH 8.2) :confused: :help:
 

nosliwekim

Member
Originally Posted by WHO DEY
sodium fluoride
sodium cyanide
sodium chloride
silica
sodium bicarbonate
sodium nitrate
magnesium chloride
calcium chloride
magnesium sulfate
nickel sulfate
copper sulfate
formaldehyde
methanol
ethanol
isopropanol
urea
lactic acid
glucose
sucrose
chlorinated pesticides
RO process removes 99%of these from the water
In England measurable traces of Prozac were also found...and oh, you forgot to mention floride
 

who dey

Active Member
Originally Posted by MATTTAMAR
Thank You everyone for your responses. I apreciate everyone recomending different brands of RO/DI units but it still does not answer my original question, what do you look for in a quality Ro unit? Currently I am using a cheap water filter from ***** and it feeds into my brita filter. But this was only a temporary thing, every time I use this water during a water change I get diatom algae everywhere in my tank(sand/LR/Glass) so my current method of filtration isnt taking out all of the phosphates and silica.That being said my new question is, will a RO/DI unit fix this problem?(My nitrates, nitrites, amonia is at 0, PH 8.2) :confused: :help:


yes it will help your diatom issues
 

who dey

Active Member
Originally Posted by bbnglodt
I say extremely low from having had the unpleasant opportunity of reviewing water quality from medical perspective as it pertains to pediatric health care. Though by no means nearly as precise as that which most of us strive to obtain. What you didnt include in your list is transient bacteria, that most likely gets picked up from the faucet.
Not sure if R/O will remove those? do you know? Just curious.
i just happened to have my ro/di owners manual next to me so i rattled off the list to make me look smart lol
as far as transient bacteria, no clue if it picks that up
:happy:
 
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