sailfin w/ HLLE

greg9871

greg9871

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ok im angry that this happened but i guess it did, i can get a pic of my sailfin but the pic that was on the disease thread looked exactly like it so heres that one
Attachment 200516
ok so im not really sure about what im supposed to do about it, i have supplies to set up a 20 gal if needed, i also wanted to know what causes HLLE
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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How long have you had him? What sized tank is he in? What does he eat? What are the water reading in the tank? HLLE comes from deficiencies or water quality. That deficiency is usually nutritional. It can also be from constant stress and inadequate environment. HLLE can also be taken care of by rectifying whatever the situation is that is causing it.
 
greg9871

greg9871

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hes about 1" long in a 55,had him in ther for about 6 months with out and problems, im getting the param's as i type, but i also did have a little problem with chlorine the other day, so i put in some marine stress coat as directed by my LFS
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by Greg9871
http:///forum/post/2644195
hes about 1" long in a 55,had him in ther for about 6 months with out and problems, im getting the param's as i type, but i also did have a little problem with chlorine the other day, so i put in some marine stress coat as directed by my LFS
He is only an inch after six months? I have never even seen them for sale that small. What does he eat?
 
greg9871

greg9871

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sal 1.024
ph about 8.2
phosphate .25
nitrate 10 ppm
ammonia somewhere between .25 and 0( if i had to guess .1)
nitrite 0
also he eats formula 1, enhanced brine, and seaweed sheets
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Is the formula one frozen, pellets, or flakes? 2.5 inches sounds about right. Are you adding any vitamins to his food?
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Pick up a couple of different frozen formula foods or make your own. Beth has a recipe in her Common Treatments FAQ at the top of this forum. Also buy some Zoecon or Selcon and a vitamin C supplement. Rotate between the different foods and vitamins. Do you have plans to upgrade your tank size? This fish grows large and will continue to have health issues as he matures in a 55.
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by Greg9871
http:///forum/post/2644239
ill try to get some of the suppliments today
They really do help a lot. The frozen foods are also a lot healthier for the fish. The formula foods are best because they contain a variety of ingredients which gives them a balanced diet. Of the vitamins I mentioned Zoecon or Selcon are the most important. See which one the store has. These contain fatty acids needed to heal the HLLE.
 
greg9871

greg9871

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my lfs gave me some galic gaurd and formula 2 flake, but he didnt have either of the suppliments listed but hes gona try to get some for his monday delivery,i also got some ingredients for some homemad fishfood
 
bgbdwlf2500

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ive got issues with this too on a sailfin and a foxface..been fighting it for awhile and havent found the solution. they are getting mysis, brine, will eat some homemade food, formula1, marine cuisine...im dosing C now but havent seen improvement yet. none of the LFS carry the big supplements mentioned on this site and the one that carries Kent C id have to take a loan out to get some so i ordered it...
i assume the scaring can be permanent? that may be the case at this point.. but i want to figure it out as a i have a hippo getting ready to go into the tank...
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Selcon and zoecon can be ordered online if your stores don't carry it. The marks are not permanent. I have seen fish on here that are a whole lot worse off (ask Renogaw about his Kole) that made a full recovery. It is important to get away from the flakes, brine, and mysis and get some real nutrition into them.
 
bgbdwlf2500

bgbdwlf2500

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Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2644702
Selcon and zoecon can be ordered online if your stores don't carry it. The marks are not permanent. I have seen fish on here that are a whole lot worse off (ask Renogaw about his Kole) that made a full recovery. It is important to get away from the flakes, brine, and mysis and get some real nutrition into them.
then what?
 
greg9871

greg9871

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just fed my fish earlyer with some homemade food and they loved it, had some shrimp scallop squid and soaked in garlic, still have to wait till moday for the zoecon
 
bgbdwlf2500

bgbdwlf2500

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Originally Posted by Greg9871
http:///forum/post/2644719
just fed my fish earlyer with some homemade food and they loved it, had some shrimp scallop squid and soaked in garlic, still have to wait till moday for the zoecon

guess i will have to redo my home made food...
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by bgbdwlf2500
http:///forum/post/2644712
then what?

Frozen formula foods or make your own. Frozen foods have a mixture of raw meats and algae. Each one contains 8-10 different ingredients such as squid, scallop, clam, spirulina etc. It is so much better for your fish.
 
bgbdwlf2500

bgbdwlf2500

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Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2644731
Frozen formula foods or make your own. Frozen foods have a mixture of raw meats and algae. Each one contains 8-10 different ingredients such as squid, scallop, clam, spirulina etc. It is so much better for your fish.

are you talking about frozen Formula 1 and 2? If not, what? my fish eat no problem as long as its something they like
im not being an a hole, im honestly asking because the HLLE is making the 2 biggest fish look bad :)
 
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