Salt Water Aquarium Setup?

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by da fish guy
http:///forum/post/3127122
I'm new to salt water tanks with some experience with fresh water. What I wanted to know is why I never see a salt water tank without ugly rocks and sand in them. I mean I understand some fish have certain leaving perimeters that they must have but I mean is it really that necessary. Why can't you just have ornaments with fake vegetation and fake (or real) colorful gravel or even stones like you see in fresh water aquariums. And let's say there are fish with special living accommodations like an eel for example, just provide something tubular or cave like so he can hide their. I mean I know that their are certain fish that do a lot of grazing like a blue hippo tang would do for example, but I mean if you feed it it's pellet or flake food and every now and than some seaweed ruberbanded to a stone it'll be alright.

A very long thread and I am too lazy to read it all...so here is my take for what it is worth.
Fake coral, and plants will become just like the live rock. The problem with it is that it will not look so nice once it is broke in so to speak. The live rock gets coralline algae...it looks nice on the rocks, but dirty on fake plants and corals.
You can't clean coralline off...it gets hard like rock...Coralline LOVES plastic ad grows really fast on it...you can't constantly replace the fake stuff because it is carrying the necessary bacteria the tank needs to be stable. So what you end up with is a very ugly fish tank, much worse looking than live rock.
By using live rock, it will always look like it is supposed to. If you like the colorful coral look, like me...then buy the real deal, which is way cooler than the fake stuff!
 

da fish guy

New Member
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3127767

A very long thread and I am too lazy to read it all...so here is my take for what it is worth.
Fake coral, and plants will become just like the live rock. The problem with it is that it will not look so nice once it is broke in so to speak. The live rock gets coralline algae...it looks nice on the rocks, but dirty on fake plants and corals.
You can't clean coralline off...it gets hard like rock...Coralline LOVES plastic ad grows really fast on it...you can't constantly replace the fake stuff because it is carrying the necessary bacteria the tank needs to be stable. So what you end up with is a very ugly fish tank, much worse looking than live rock.
By using live rock, it will always look like it is supposed to. If you like the colorful coral look, like me...then buy the real deal, which is way cooler than the fake stuff!
Hi, thanks for the info!
Doesn't algae grow because of excessive light though. I saw this video were it explains it... this is the address (http://www.5min.com/Video/Saltwater-...ting-142101046)... these are the rest... (http://www.5min.com/Tag/how%20to%20s...erID=139963788)
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by da fish guy
http:///forum/post/3127771
Hi, thanks for the info!
Doesn't algae grow because of excessive light though. I saw this video were it explains it... this is the address (http://www.5min.com/Video/Saltwater-...ting-142101046)... these are the rest... (http://www.5min.com/Tag/how%20to%20s...erID=139963788)

There are lots of different types of algae...some you need to feed critters, some are bad...like hair, green scum, and bubble algae.
Then there is coralline algae. Very much desired and inevitable, beautiful colors, purples, blues, pinks, reds, I even have glow in the dark orange..Which sadly I found turns to red later.
It looks awesome on rock, and the back of the tank... but dirty and nasty on plastic plants and corals. Every healthy tank has algae...we want and need the good stuff and fight like crazy to be free of the bad types.
You will have algae if you have a fish tank that has life...I do think there is some type of UV light that sweeps the tank and will kill everything but fish and inverts. Not the UV they sell that water flows through...which helps control hair algae growth. It is some kind of beam that sweeps the tank.
I have only heard people talk about it...I am not even sure it is real or an imagined desired thing...
...other than such a thing your fake stuff is doomed to look like well..Hideously dirty.
 

salty blues

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LOL, the first time I ever set up a sw tank, I used fake corals, fake anemones, and crushed coral. As has been stated, the fake stuff looks sort of ok for a while, but soon starts to look not so good. I have long since moved to real corals with live rock and live sand. Way more realistic and beautiful imho.
 

da fish guy

New Member
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3127777

There are lots of different types of algae...some you need to feed critters, some are bad...like hair, green scum, and bubble algae.
Then there is coralline algae. Very much desired and inevitable, beautiful colors, purples, blues, pinks, reds, I even have glow in the dark orange..Which sadly I found turns to red later.
It looks awesome on rock, and the back of the tank... but dirty and nasty on plastic plants and corals. Every healthy tank has algae...we want and need the good stuff and fight like crazy to be free of the bad types.
You will have algae if you have a fish tank that has life...I do think there is some type of UV light that sweeps the tank and will kill everything but fish and inverts. Not the UV they sell that water flows through...which helps control hair algae growth. It is some kind of beam that sweeps the tank.
I have only heard people talk about it...I am not even sure it is real or an imagined desired thing...
...other than such a thing your fake stuff is doomed to look like well..Hideously dirty.
Thanks for the info :) tough i've come to a conclusion. You can have that biological life in your bio filter instead of keeping it in your tank via rocks and sand though. I mean granted that you have a full filtration system(bio,chemical,mechanical, and UV) witch is what I plan on using (canister filter) you can keep that stuff from growing and I think as long as you provide the fish with enough nutrients via foods(like pellet or flake food, frozen foods maybe mixed with nutrient additives like vitamins, fatty acids, and garlic) the fish is not going to die. Nevertheless though I see fish only aquariums that have nun-live rock and fake plants so... I think I'm starting to get the hang of this. I mean, look at this guy's tank... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmEZ7dW58Tc
 
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