fats71
Active Member
I was jacking around the net and found this kind of interesting dunno how true it is but made me think.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2147223.shtml
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2147223.shtml
Salt-Water Fish Extinction Seen By 2048
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ruaround
Active Member
didnt scientists also predict that we would be driving sky cars, living on mars, all be wearing space suits and make alien contact by 2000 too???
i dont believe it... but i do belive that i most likely wont be around to find out either... that is unless scientists raise the average age of a humans lifespan too...
i dont believe it... but i do belive that i most likely wont be around to find out either... that is unless scientists raise the average age of a humans lifespan too...
cowfishrule
Active Member
Originally Posted by Fats71
http:///forum/post/2600537
I was jacking around the net
while looking at fish stuff? wow your weird.
http:///forum/post/2600537
I was jacking around the net
while looking at fish stuff? wow your weird.
fats71
Active Member
Laugh, I dunno was something to think about. I watch deadliest catch and stuff and wonder how hard it is on the ocean to remove stuff. I mean we have to have a certain amount of things to keep our tanks stable so the ocean does as well as we all know so how do we know when we are doing too much ?
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by COWFISHRULE
http:///forum/post/2600670
while looking at fish stuff? wow your weird.
hmmm, reminds me of top gun. "they are getting close I have a ----"
http:///forum/post/2600670
while looking at fish stuff? wow your weird.
hmmm, reminds me of top gun. "they are getting close I have a ----"
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by Fats71
http:///forum/post/2607073
Laugh, I dunno was something to think about. I watch deadliest catch and stuff and wonder how hard it is on the ocean to remove stuff. I mean we have to have a certain amount of things to keep our tanks stable so the ocean does as well as we all know so how do we know when we are doing too much ?
We don't, but who is to say we aren't hear to keep some stuff in check?
http:///forum/post/2607073
Laugh, I dunno was something to think about. I watch deadliest catch and stuff and wonder how hard it is on the ocean to remove stuff. I mean we have to have a certain amount of things to keep our tanks stable so the ocean does as well as we all know so how do we know when we are doing too much ?
We don't, but who is to say we aren't hear to keep some stuff in check?
socal57che
Active Member
Then pesky marine life won't get in the way of our nuclear subs! Stupid fish.
fats71
Active Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2607250
Then pesky marine life won't get in the way of our nuclear subs! Stupid fish.
LOL.
http:///forum/post/2607250
Then pesky marine life won't get in the way of our nuclear subs! Stupid fish.
LOL.
cowfishrule
Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2607236
We don't, but who is to say we aren't hear to keep some stuff in check?
like, trees, grass, fresh air.
god forbid the fresh air gets out of hand.... all will suffer.
http:///forum/post/2607236
We don't, but who is to say we aren't hear to keep some stuff in check?
like, trees, grass, fresh air.
god forbid the fresh air gets out of hand.... all will suffer.
aquaknight
Active Member
I dunno, I think the seas are pretty resilient. Quick! Name anything from the ocean that you can remember off the top of your head that has become extinct in 'our time'? What about land animals?
I can think of a few land animals, but nothing in the sea...
I can think of a few land animals, but nothing in the sea...
cowfishrule
Active Member
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2607707
I dunno, I think the seas are pretty resilient. Quick! Name anything from the ocean that you can remember off the top of your head that has become extinct in 'our time'? What about land animals?
I can think of a few land animals, but nothing in the sea...
megalodon
http:///forum/post/2607707
I dunno, I think the seas are pretty resilient. Quick! Name anything from the ocean that you can remember off the top of your head that has become extinct in 'our time'? What about land animals?
I can think of a few land animals, but nothing in the sea...
megalodon
ophiura
Active Member
I heard there would be an extinction event where 95% of the marine species and like 75% of terrestrial species would go extinct!!!!
oh wait, that already happened (Permo-Triassic extinction about 250 million years ago). Seems we recovered OK.
But then!
The Cretaceous - Tertiary extinction where 50% of all species went extinct!! Hmmm, still recovered.
Dooms day predictions. Gotta love them. Doesn't mean we shouldn't change our habits. But sometimes you have to give things a bit more credit.
oh wait, that already happened (Permo-Triassic extinction about 250 million years ago). Seems we recovered OK.
But then!
The Cretaceous - Tertiary extinction where 50% of all species went extinct!! Hmmm, still recovered.
Dooms day predictions. Gotta love them. Doesn't mean we shouldn't change our habits. But sometimes you have to give things a bit more credit.
fats71
Active Member
Originally Posted by ophiura
http:///forum/post/2608252
I heard there would be an extinction event where 95% of the marine species and like 75% of terrestrial species would go extinct!!!!
oh wait, that already happened (Permo-Triassic extinction about 250 million years ago). Seems we recovered OK.
But then!
The Cretaceous - Tertiary extinction where 50% of all species went extinct!! Hmmm, still recovered.
Dooms day predictions. Gotta love them. Doesn't mean we shouldn't change our habits. But sometimes you have to give things a bit more credit.
I think with attitudes such as that is the problem. Do what you want it will be ok is not a solution but a problem...
http:///forum/post/2608252
I heard there would be an extinction event where 95% of the marine species and like 75% of terrestrial species would go extinct!!!!
oh wait, that already happened (Permo-Triassic extinction about 250 million years ago). Seems we recovered OK.
But then!
The Cretaceous - Tertiary extinction where 50% of all species went extinct!! Hmmm, still recovered.
Dooms day predictions. Gotta love them. Doesn't mean we shouldn't change our habits. But sometimes you have to give things a bit more credit.
I think with attitudes such as that is the problem. Do what you want it will be ok is not a solution but a problem...
prk543
Member
Fats,
I believe what ophura was referring to was that there have been extinction events in the history of this planet. Unfortunatly there isn't a way to stop them, and usually not much we can do to fix them.
I know none of us would be happy to see the animals that we love going extinct, but unfortunately it is a natural process. Some animals will adapt, and others won't. Earth's history has been marked by wide spread extinctions over time, and unfortunatly it will keep happening.
I believe what ophura was referring to was that there have been extinction events in the history of this planet. Unfortunatly there isn't a way to stop them, and usually not much we can do to fix them.
I know none of us would be happy to see the animals that we love going extinct, but unfortunately it is a natural process. Some animals will adapt, and others won't. Earth's history has been marked by wide spread extinctions over time, and unfortunatly it will keep happening.
ophiura
Active Member
Originally Posted by Fats71
http:///forum/post/2610550
I think with attitudes such as that is the problem. Do what you want it will be ok is not a solution but a problem...
Actually I spent well over a decade in university and graduate school studying biology and marine biology. Throwing about the "attitudes such as that" is not fair because overall I have a good amount of experience and perspective. I think it is the gloom and doom "humans are the problems AND can fix everything too" that is an issue.
We should not over fish. We should not really be involved in the harvesting of animals for this hobby (ironically...which in many cases causes extensive damage to reefs). We should not pollute.
Nor should we proceed under the illusion that man is so smart we can figure everything out and fix it.
Because we would have been nothing more than little things that went extinct in the past too. Nature finds a way. Man may die...we need to save ourselves, but this planet does not need our help. So I would prefer we say "look, we need to save ourselves so stop doing this" than the gloom and doom fright tactics - typically misunderstood by the public.
Extinction - caused in a variety of ways - is a normal natural part of the earth's process. Before everyone says "oh yeah ophiura but not like global warming...." please research!!!!! 'Cause the stuff that has happened in the past? Global warming, global cooling, asteroids? NORMAL.
Please understand that in order to make your research exciting enough to get funding (I know, I've done it) it typically is not a "yeah everything is great" story. That stuff doesn't usually compete well.
http:///forum/post/2610550
I think with attitudes such as that is the problem. Do what you want it will be ok is not a solution but a problem...
Actually I spent well over a decade in university and graduate school studying biology and marine biology. Throwing about the "attitudes such as that" is not fair because overall I have a good amount of experience and perspective. I think it is the gloom and doom "humans are the problems AND can fix everything too" that is an issue.
We should not over fish. We should not really be involved in the harvesting of animals for this hobby (ironically...which in many cases causes extensive damage to reefs). We should not pollute.
Nor should we proceed under the illusion that man is so smart we can figure everything out and fix it.
Because we would have been nothing more than little things that went extinct in the past too. Nature finds a way. Man may die...we need to save ourselves, but this planet does not need our help. So I would prefer we say "look, we need to save ourselves so stop doing this" than the gloom and doom fright tactics - typically misunderstood by the public.
Extinction - caused in a variety of ways - is a normal natural part of the earth's process. Before everyone says "oh yeah ophiura but not like global warming...." please research!!!!! 'Cause the stuff that has happened in the past? Global warming, global cooling, asteroids? NORMAL.
Please understand that in order to make your research exciting enough to get funding (I know, I've done it) it typically is not a "yeah everything is great" story. That stuff doesn't usually compete well.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by ophiura
http:///forum/post/2610580
Actually I spent well over a decade in university and graduate school studying biology and marine biology. Throwing about the "attitudes such as that" is not fair because overall I have a good amount of experience and perspective. I think it is the gloom and doom "humans are the problems AND can fix everything too" that is an issue.
We should not over fish. We should not really be involved in the harvesting of animals for this hobby (ironically...which in many cases causes extensive damage to reefs). We should not pollute.
Nor should we proceed under the illusion that man is so smart we can figure everything out and fix it.
Because we would have been nothing more than little things that went extinct in the past too. Nature finds a way. Man may die...we need to save ourselves, but this planet does not need our help. So I would prefer we say "look, we need to save ourselves so stop doing this" than the gloom and doom fright tactics - typically misunderstood by the public.
Extinction - caused in a variety of ways - is a normal natural part of the earth's process. Before everyone says "oh yeah ophiura but not like global warming...." please research!!!!! 'Cause the stuff that has happened in the past? Global warming, global cooling, asteroids? NORMAL.
Please understand that in order to make your research exciting enough to get funding (I know, I've done it) it typically is not a "yeah everything is great" story. That stuff doesn't usually compete well.
But I do think the doom and gloom is interpreted exactly the way they want it to be interpreted.
http:///forum/post/2610580
Actually I spent well over a decade in university and graduate school studying biology and marine biology. Throwing about the "attitudes such as that" is not fair because overall I have a good amount of experience and perspective. I think it is the gloom and doom "humans are the problems AND can fix everything too" that is an issue.
We should not over fish. We should not really be involved in the harvesting of animals for this hobby (ironically...which in many cases causes extensive damage to reefs). We should not pollute.
Nor should we proceed under the illusion that man is so smart we can figure everything out and fix it.
Because we would have been nothing more than little things that went extinct in the past too. Nature finds a way. Man may die...we need to save ourselves, but this planet does not need our help. So I would prefer we say "look, we need to save ourselves so stop doing this" than the gloom and doom fright tactics - typically misunderstood by the public.
Extinction - caused in a variety of ways - is a normal natural part of the earth's process. Before everyone says "oh yeah ophiura but not like global warming...." please research!!!!! 'Cause the stuff that has happened in the past? Global warming, global cooling, asteroids? NORMAL.
Please understand that in order to make your research exciting enough to get funding (I know, I've done it) it typically is not a "yeah everything is great" story. That stuff doesn't usually compete well.
tluamen
New Member
FISH KNOWN TO GONE EXTINCT IN lAST DECADE
canthobrama hulensis
Alburnus akili
Aplocheilichthys sp. nov.
Barbus microbarbis
Characodon garmani
Chasmistes muriei
Chondrostoma scodrense
Coregonus alpenae
Coregonus johannae
Coregonus nigripinnis
Cottus echinatusUtah
Ctenochromis pectoralis
Cyprinodon ceciliae
Cyprinodon inmemoriam
Cyprinodon latifasciatus
Perrito de Parras
Cyprinodon nevadensis calidae
Cyprinodon spp.Perritos de Sandi
Cyprinus yilongensis
Empetrichthys merriami
Etheostoma sellare
Evarra bustamantei
Evarra eigenmanni
Mexican Dace
Evarra tlahuacensis
Fundulus albolineatus
Gambusia amistadensis
Gambusia georgei
Gila crassicauda
Haplochromis
Haplochromis
Haplochromis bartoni
Haplochromis bayoni
Haplochromis boops
Haplochromis cassius
Haplochromis decticostoma
Haplochromis dentex
Haplochromis estor
Haplochromis flavipinnis
Haplochromis gilberti
Haplochromis gowersi
Haplochromis longirostris
Haplochromis macrognathus
Haplochromis maculipinna
Haplochromis mandibularis
Haplochromis martini
Haplochromis megalops
Haplochromis michaeli
Haplochromis microdon
Haplochromis mylergates
Haplochromis nanoserranus
Haplochromis nigrescens
Haplochromis nyanzae 50
Haplochromis obtusidens
Haplochromis pachycephalus
Haplochromis paraplagiostoma
Haplochromis paraguiarti
Haplochromis percoides
Haplochromis pharyngomylus
Haplochromis prognathus
Haplochromis pseudopellegrini
Haplochromis teegelaari
Haplochromis thuragnathus
Haplochromis spekii
Haplochromis victorianus
Hoplotilapia retrodens
Lepidomeda altivelis
Moxostoma lacerum
Notropis amecae
Notropis aulidion
Notropis orca
Notropis saladonis
Pantanodon madagascariensis
Orestias cuvieri
Pogonichthys ciscoides
Priapella bonita
Prognathochromis xenostoma
Prototroctes oxyrhynchus
Ptychochromis sp. nov.
Ptychochromoides itasy
Pyxichromis parorthostoma
Rhinichthys deaconi
Rhizosomichthys totae
Salmo pallaryi
Salvelinus agassizi
Stypodon signifer
Telestes ukliva
Tristramella intermedia
Tristramella magdelainae
Xystichromis bayoni
canthobrama hulensis
Alburnus akili
Aplocheilichthys sp. nov.
Barbus microbarbis
Characodon garmani
Chasmistes muriei
Chondrostoma scodrense
Coregonus alpenae
Coregonus johannae
Coregonus nigripinnis
Cottus echinatusUtah
Ctenochromis pectoralis
Cyprinodon ceciliae
Cyprinodon inmemoriam
Cyprinodon latifasciatus
Perrito de Parras
Cyprinodon nevadensis calidae
Cyprinodon spp.Perritos de Sandi
Cyprinus yilongensis
Empetrichthys merriami
Etheostoma sellare
Evarra bustamantei
Evarra eigenmanni
Mexican Dace
Evarra tlahuacensis
Fundulus albolineatus
Gambusia amistadensis
Gambusia georgei
Gila crassicauda
Haplochromis
Haplochromis
Haplochromis bartoni
Haplochromis bayoni
Haplochromis boops
Haplochromis cassius
Haplochromis decticostoma
Haplochromis dentex
Haplochromis estor
Haplochromis flavipinnis
Haplochromis gilberti
Haplochromis gowersi
Haplochromis longirostris
Haplochromis macrognathus
Haplochromis maculipinna
Haplochromis mandibularis
Haplochromis martini
Haplochromis megalops
Haplochromis michaeli
Haplochromis microdon
Haplochromis mylergates
Haplochromis nanoserranus
Haplochromis nigrescens
Haplochromis nyanzae 50
Haplochromis obtusidens
Haplochromis pachycephalus
Haplochromis paraplagiostoma
Haplochromis paraguiarti
Haplochromis percoides
Haplochromis pharyngomylus
Haplochromis prognathus
Haplochromis pseudopellegrini
Haplochromis teegelaari
Haplochromis thuragnathus
Haplochromis spekii
Haplochromis victorianus
Hoplotilapia retrodens
Lepidomeda altivelis
Moxostoma lacerum
Notropis amecae
Notropis aulidion
Notropis orca
Notropis saladonis
Pantanodon madagascariensis
Orestias cuvieri
Pogonichthys ciscoides
Priapella bonita
Prognathochromis xenostoma
Prototroctes oxyrhynchus
Ptychochromis sp. nov.
Ptychochromoides itasy
Pyxichromis parorthostoma
Rhinichthys deaconi
Rhizosomichthys totae
Salmo pallaryi
Salvelinus agassizi
Stypodon signifer
Telestes ukliva
Tristramella intermedia
Tristramella magdelainae
Xystichromis bayoni
fats71
Active Member
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2607707
I dunno, I think the seas are pretty resilient. Quick! Name anything from the ocean that you can remember off the top of your head that has become extinct in 'our time'? What about land animals?
I can think of a few land animals, but nothing in the sea...
^^^^I think just one got named about a hundred times
http:///forum/post/2607707
I dunno, I think the seas are pretty resilient. Quick! Name anything from the ocean that you can remember off the top of your head that has become extinct in 'our time'? What about land animals?
I can think of a few land animals, but nothing in the sea...
^^^^I think just one got named about a hundred times