Sand more dangerous than sharks (who funded this study?)

earlybird

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/20....ap/index.html
Docs: Sand more deadly than sharks
ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- Waves and sharks aren't the only dangers at the beach. More than two dozen young people have been killed over the last decade when sand holes collapsed on them, report father-and-son doctors who have made warning of the risk their personal campaign.
Since 1985, at least 20 children and young adults in the United States have died in beach or backyard sand submersions. And at least eight others died in Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom, according to a letter from the doctors published in this week's issue of The New England Journal of Medicine.
Among them was Matthew Gauruder, who died from a collapse at an after-prom beach party in Westerly, Rhode Island, in May 2001. The 17-year-old was playing football with friends when he jumped for a pass and fell backward into an eight-foot-deep hole someone had dug earlier.
Would-be rescuers made the problem worse by caving in more sand as they tried to approach him. People at the scene said he may have been buried 15 minutes, said his mother, Mavis.
"People have no conception of how dangerous this is," she said in an interview this week.
Sand hole collapses occur horrifyingly fast, said Dr. Bradley Maron of Harvard Medical School, the report's lead author.
"Typically, victims became completely submerged in the sand when the walls of the hole unexpectedly collapsed, leaving virtually no evidence of the hole or location of the victim," wrote Maron, an internal medicine resident.
Accident sparked research
Maron, a former lifeguard, became interested in the topic in the summer of 1998. He was vacationing with his family on Martha's Vineyard when he and his father, Minnesota cardiologist Dr. Barry Maron, saw a lifeguard responding to a collapse that engulfed an 8-year-old girl.
The girl survived, thanks to a dramatic rescue. But it left a big impression on Maron, who's spent years tracking -- and writing about -- similar incidents.
"It's been almost like a vendetta for him," said Dennis Arnold, who runs the beach patrol in the Martha's Vineyard community of Edgartown and was Maron's boss that summer.
People naturally worry about splashier threats, such as shark attacks. However, the Marons' research found there were 16 sand hole or tunnel deaths in the United States from 1990 to 2006 compared with 12 fatal shark for the same period, according to University of Florida statistics.
And Bradley Maron thinks the sand-related deaths are less well-documented than shark attacks.
The father and son based their report largely on news media accounts and Internet searches. Most of the incidents were from the last 10 years, when Internet reports were available.
Overall, they counted 31 recreational sand hole deaths since 1985 in the United States, United Kingdom, Australia and New Zealand. They counted another 21 incidents in which a person was rescued from a collapse, in several cases by bystanders who performed CPR.
The victims, mostly boys, ranged in age from 3 to 21 years, with the average age about 12.
Unattended construction sites have long posed dangers, and one incident in the Marons' compilation -- involving three girls who died in East Milton, Florida, in 1998 -- occurred in a rain-soaked clay pit, when an embankment collapsed. Those deaths, if added to the others, bring the U.S. death tally to 23.
Maron and others advise the public not to let young kids play in sand unattended, and not to get in a hole deeper than your knees.
On Martha's Vineyard, lifeguards are instructed to order children and adults out of any hole deeper than a child's waist, and to kick sand in to fill them, Arnold said.
Occasionally, some parents protest. "They'll say 'You're ruining my kids' day!' I say 'I don't care,"' Arnold said.
Mavis Gauruder, who lives in Fort Mill, South Carolina, said she's tried to issue similar warnings, like the time she came upon a father digging a hole with a garden shovel for his young son.
She went up to the pair and warned them of the dangers. The man seemed unmoved, so she finally told him she'd had a tragedy in her family involving a hole collapse.
"I asked them to fill in the hole. They did, but they looked at me like I was interfering," she said.
 

pontius

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there's a children gospel song where the verses go something like...."the wise man builds his house upon the rock, the foolish man builds his house upon the sand" or something that. yeah, that's true I guess. but sand never bit anybody in half. so if I had my druthers, I'd die by sand rather than by shark.
just as a side note, I'm bad to chew on the non-business end of inkpens when I'm writing or studying. when I was in my senior semester in college, I was doing this, not thinking anything of it. the little round cap thing at the end of the pen was sucked down my throat and must've got blocked over my windpipe or something. anyway, I couldn't breathe at all and it took me probably 20 seconds to get it out of my throat. I rammed my fingers down my throat and literally yanked and yanked until if finally flew out. that was the only time in my life that I seriously thought I was going to die and it was the longest 20 seconds of my life. wonder how many inkpen deaths there are each year?
 

prk543

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Trench collapses are common work place hazards in the world. In sand, the maximum stable angle is approximatly 32 degrees. Probably a little closer to 35 degrees when wet, but not saturated. Unfortunatly people don't want to dig their holes at a stable angle and and prefer a 90 degree angle. I think its a good thing that people are starting to regulate this. After all OSHA requires that all trenches after a certain depth ( I can't remember at the moment) be sured and reinforced.
Why shouldn't the beach be watched over in the same way? Like it said in the article, it only takes a second for the sand to slide down into a hole. I know people have stepped on the edge of a hole on the beach and started to slide in.
As for the more dangerous than sharks, I would think it would be more unexpected than a shark attack. Who would think that sand could kill them?
-prk543
 

aztec reef

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I've never been scared of sand until after i read this article
Talk about being scared of the Ocean
Now we should be more scared of the beaches and our backyards.

I'd rather die by a shark..cause at least Death will be faster and you can Try to take the shark with you(fight it)..In the other hand there's nothing you can do against sand..
 

rara12

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I think this is a little over the top. 23 deaths in like ten years is not many at all. I would still play in a giant hole if i found one at the beach. To lazy to dig my own.
 

good alex

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yep ive seen some life guards fill in holes, some parents want to build a mini pool at the beach for there kids so they dig it up. Well theres also the parents side you can take when they dont have to be worried about there little kid being taken away by rip currents or drowning or manta rays
 

jennythebugg

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Originally Posted by rara12
I think this is a little over the top. 23 deaths in like ten years is not many at all. I would still play in a giant hole if i found one at the beach. To lazy to dig my own.
ahahahahaha
i would too why waste your time when someone else already wasted theirs
 

fenrir

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Originally Posted by HappyVac
Who has more than 2 feet of sand in their backyard?
My old house in Lexington South Carolina was nothing but white sand. This is kind of creepy, I go camping on the beach in the outer banks next month!
 
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