saying hello & a couple questions.....

midknight thief

New Member
just wanted to say hi to everyone, i have been checking out this board for a couple days, reading some posts and still finding myself confused (i'm a total newbie). everyone seems friendly and real helpful.
well on to my question(s) -
i just got a tank from someone, it is a clear acrylic tank with a blue acrylic backing. it is 48Lx13Wx20H, approx 55 gallons (i think :) ). i also got a Fluval 404 filter, and some lights one is regular flurescent and one is like a black/blue bulb (remember im a newbie)
i wanna do a saltwater tank, but not really sure of what to put in a tank this size, how many fish, LR, LS etc. i wanna keep it as inexpensive as possible to start. not cheap just enexpensive.
what other accesories do i need to make this tank work? does anyone know any other websites with pics of nice looking tanks this size? any and all info and/or ideas is greatfully appreciated.
heres a pic of the tank: (hope this works :) )
 

krishj39

Active Member
Welcome to the hobby! In a few short months, you will be sucked into it and not have time or money for anything else!
I won't even try to answer all of your questions, as most need more info from you to give you an informed response.
Keeping in mind that you want to keep it on the unexpensive side, you should probably stick to a Fish Only (FO) or Fish Only With Live Rock (FOWLR). A reef tank will cost you hundreds and hundreds more. Keeping a FO or FOWLR tank is only a little tougher than keeping a freshwater tank, so if you have any experience there, you are on your way already! As far as the least expensive, FO is by far the way to go. However, LR has tons of advantages and IMO is worth the money. But, LR will cost a MINIMUM of 3$/lb, and the recommended amount is anywhere from .75 to 2lbs/gallon so you can see how it would add up quickly. You can always just put a few lbs of LR in too, instead of 50lbs+, but the more the better.
Oh, the blue light is an actinic bulb, designed to put out the light spectrum that corals and fish are exposed after the water has filtered all the light but the blue light.
As to what additional equipment, you will get many different opinions, however, bare minimum is a protein skimmer, I'd get one rated to filter around 90 gallons (again, more=better). Skimmers remove dissolved organics in your tank before they can decompose and create harmful chemicals. You will also need something that does more biological filtration (a place to grow bacteria in the water that turn your bad chemicals into less bad chemicals) This is most commonly done with a wet/dry filter and/or with LR. You could also use some more circulation in that tank. Get a few powerheads and position them in your tank. You are trying to eliminate "dead spots" where there isn't much current. It is in those spots that bad stuff grows. Beyond that, it depends on how hardy of fish/invertibrates you get. Equipment can be very specialized to the needs of the tanks inhabitants.
How many fish? Again, very dependent on which fish you put in. As a very general, almost useless rule-of-thumb, have a max of 1 inch of fish per 5 gallons of water. Giving you about 11 inches of fish. Until you learn more about the specific fish you have in mind, you probably want to stick to this.
To get you up and running with a FO will require at least:
75$ protein skimmer (over the back style)
2-3 powerheads @ 20$ each
sand - 4$/50lbs if you can find argonite based sand at a home improvement store
wet/dry filter - don't know cost, never bought separately
your lights now are fine, as long as the bulbs aren't too old >1 yr
test kits for - pH, phosphates, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, alkinity
Salt - i'd get 150 gallons worth of salt. Its is cheaper and you will use it soon enough. around $35
A good heater, probably can get away with one 250watt heater.
Food (type depends on fish)
To make a FOWLR, you also need the LR (duh)
The cheapest way to get LS is to buy a Detrivore kit (bag full of little sand animals) or add some LS to your normal sand and wait for the animals in the LS to reproduce.
You MAY be able to get away without using a wet/dry filter if you have enough LR/LS, but I personally haven't done it.
That's all I can think of right now, I'm probably missing something, if I am hopefully someone else will catch it and let you know.
If you wanted to go Reef eventually, your biggest additional cost would be the lighting. Right now you probably have 2 40watt bulbs, giving you 80w total. Conservatively, you need 200 more watts to keep coral/etc happy. You would need to go with Power Compact (PC), Very High Output (VHO), or maybe even Metal Halide (MH) lighting systems. The cheapest way is probably the PC's, but that'll still run you at least 200$
LEARN ABOUT THE CYCLING PROCESS if you haven't already. I'm not going into it here, but it is vital that you know it well if you want to keep things alive very long. Do a search on this forum for "Cycling" and you will have more info on it than you know what to do with.
Best wishes, hope I answered some of your questions, I'm sure I gave you more than I answered, but that's the way life is :) Feel free to ask me more, I'm happy to help.
Kris
 

musipilot

Member
Welcome! A must read, in my humble opinion:
The New Marine Aquarium - Michael Paletta.
Grab it, live it, learn it. He has everything from suggested rock setups to complete stocking list suggestions based on size and temperment.
 

midknight thief

New Member
thanks for all the info... now its time to go shopping :D , but i do have another question. what is the purpose of the blue peice of acrylic for the backing? is is for visual quality? if i put in so much LR will it take away from teh purpose of the blue acrylic? could i maybe do like 50lbs of LR in the middle of the tank? TIA for any help
 
The blue acrylic is more or less a built in background. Some prefer it to painting the back or hanging one of their own....just for looks :D It does look good though!
SiF
 

krishj39

Active Member
Sure, 50lbs LR sounds great! I need to get another 45lb box of it myself. Yup, the blue plexiglass is just for looks, I have the same thing on my tank now too. Much better to look at that than all the wires and stuff hanging over the back of the tank!
 
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