schooling

ironchef205

Member
hello everyone i am looking for a fish or rather a group of fish that are pretty reliable about schooling and the number of them it takes for them to school
as in the words of the ref from celebrety death match "lets get it on"
 

browniebuck

Active Member
It really depends on what size tank you are talking about. The blue/green chromis are a schooling fish by nature (however in the aquarium, they tend to thin themselves out until there are only a couple). The firefish, if added together, are supposed to school (and you are supposed to be able to mix the species, again, if added at the same time). In a larger system, anthias are a schooling fish (depending on the size of the tank, get more females than males by at least 2 to 1, if not 3 or 4 to 1)).
Again...it really depends on the size of the tank when it comes to which fish to get.
 

t316

Active Member
brownie is right on about the chromis....been there/done that. They don't really "school" per say in the home aquarium, and dwindle down.
From personal experience, my Bangai pair tend to hang out close together. This is not a schooling behavior that you are looking for, but you find them together more often than not.
 

drtito

Member
He is right, green cromis will thin themsleves out quick no matter how many you add. sad but true.
Fire fish on the other hand do school well and are active swimers. Got 6 in my 125 and they seem content and not jumping. They did fight but was small, and the fish healed fast.
I have heard from bang guy that blue-eyed cardnals school, but have yet to find 10 all at once.
Hope this helps.
 
I say firefish I have four the school in my 120, you could also get other variations like the purple or scissor tail, IME they different kinds won't school together but will get along.
 

btldreef

Moderator
Lyretail Anthias. They almost always school. I only have three and they're ALWAYS together. Easy to care for, IMO, and add great color to the tank. Best Anthias I've owned.
 

aquaknight

Active Member
I hate act to like PEZ, but, "school vs. shoal" needs addressed.
A school of fish, is a tight mesh of fish, that move simultaneously as one unit. A giant ball of herring trying to avoid predators, for example. Outside of the occasional Golden Pilot Jack, that makes it way into the trade, you won't find a fish for sale that technically "schools." All aquarium fish that have been mentioned, and will be mentioned, "shoal;" a loose collection of similar fish, not necessarily same species, whose actions are similar, but usually independent. A shoal of anthias, for example.

Firefish aren't recommended as a shoal fish. In the wild, they only form pairs. Three or more can cause problems. Perhaps in a large enough tank you could try two pairs, but more often then not, it doesn't work out.
Cardinals or Anthias are good choices, though I definitely wouldn't call Anthias easy. They have quite high dietary needs (3x a day feedings), and are quiet prone to diseases, mainly internal parasites. The rigors of the current retail system, collector-to-wholesaler-to-distributors-to-retail outlet, takes it's toll on Anthias as they are not feed properly during that time period (at best, 5 days). If you decide for Anthias, look for healthy specimens. The body should not have a 'pinched' look behind the eyes, sunken stomach, etc.
 

ironchef205

Member
cool didn't know that keep it comming i would like to do the firefish just need some more opions of yes to know on the shoaling of them also just anyone have any other expierce with shoaling
 

srfisher17

Active Member
This question comes up often; and I think most folks are disappointed. I've never seen any SW fish that will 'school" like we want them to in our tank. IMO; any tank is so small that fish in opposite ends of the tank would still be close enough to each other to feel secure. I have a lot of Anthias that stay fairly close, but not like a FW school of tetras, etc.
(I just saw Spanko's post of the red spot cardinal, sure looks like a tetra to me!)
 

wangotango

Active Member
My vote is for blue-eye/threadfin/ghost cardinals. If you do get a decent size group together they will stay in a pack.
Anthias would probably be a close second, but IME they don't "stick" together in a pack, but don't stay completely seperated either.
-Justin
 

btldreef

Moderator
Lyretails are easier than some other species of Anthias I've dealt with. They're not nearly that difficult to keep if you get a healthy specimen and feed them. I feed mine twice a day and they're FINE.
As far as schooling, or shoaling, go with Anthias or Cardinals. Firefish shouldn't be kept as more than two or your asking for aggressive behavior.
 

t316

Active Member
Any of the fish listed above, then add a 12" flounder.....believe me, the fish will school like you never seen
 
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