Sea Hares?

rooroo

Member
Okay my question is: Do sea hares bury themselves in the sand? I just got two of them and one is staying attached to the glass but the other one is just gone. No place for it to hide except in the sand. Anyone have any ideas?
 

socal57che

Active Member
You're sure there is no place it could be hiding. Somtimes I have to look for quite a while to find mine and he is pretty darn big. (his name is Shrek)
IMO you need an awful big tank to support 2 sea hares.
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
Do you have a lot of live rock in your tank? A lot of times, I have seen these guys perfectly camoflauged with the rock.
 

rooroo

Member
I have a lot of hair algea so I have two until I get rid of it. There is about 30-40 lbs of rock but I have looked for hours trying to find it. I am so confused.
 

socal57che

Active Member

Originally Posted by rooroo
http:///forum/post/2489025
I have a lot of hair algea so I have two until I get rid of it
. There is about 30-40 lbs of rock but I have looked for hours trying to find it. I am so confused.
If you don't fix the cause, the hair will come back.
He is probably hiding. Keep an eye out for him and if you don't see him in a couple days start pulling rock until you find him. Dead, they release toxins into your water column.
If you find him dead run carbon. But really, he's prolly hiding.
 

rooroo

Member
I have been looking for the problem that is why I feel like I am beating my head against the wall. I have never had this problem in my other tank and I have had that one almost 3 yrs. this one almost a yr. My phosphates where high so I put in a phosphate filter, at that point in time I was have a problem with diatoms. Finally got rid of them and now I have hair algea. I am trying to make it so it doesn't overtake my tank. I will check all my levels in the morning to make sure the thing hasn't died. BTW I use RO water(that is not the problem) I feed just enough so that it is gone in less that 3 mins. I have my skimmer running along with my carbon filters, and my light are less than 3 mths old. ANy other ideas would be great......
 

socal57che

Active Member
Originally Posted by rooroo
http:///forum/post/2489079
I have been looking for the problem that is why I feel like I am beating my head against the wall. I have never had this problem in my other tank and I have had that one almost 3 yrs. this one almost a yr. My phosphates where high so I put in a phosphate filter, at that point in time I was have a problem with diatoms. Finally got rid of them and now I have hair algea. I am trying to make it so it doesn't overtake my tank. I will check all my levels in the morning to make sure the thing hasn't died. BTW I use RO water(that is not the problem) I feed just enough so that it is gone in less that 3 mins. I have my skimmer running along with my carbon filters, and my light are less than 3 mths old. ANy other ideas would be great......
What spectrum are your lamps?
Do you get any sunlight?
What do you feed? My fish would have to be fed a ton to last 3 minutes.
What does your skimmate look like?
Also it is important to remove the phosphate magnet once it has reached the end of it's ability to absorb phos. because some will leech contaminants back into the water.
Also, what salt do you use. Some cheap salts contain phosphates.
How did you acclimate the specimens?
 

socal57che

Active Member
Addition of macro algae can reduce free phosphates in your water. Chaeto or caulerpa (I noticed you weren't in Ca) cultivation can help.
 

rooroo

Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2489106
What spectrum are your lamps?
Do you get any sunlight?
What do you feed? My fish would have to be fed a ton to last 3 minutes.
What does your skimmate look like?
Also it is important to remove the phosphate magnet once it has reached the end of it's ability to absorb phos. because some will leech contaminants back into the water.
Also, what salt do you use. Some cheap salts contain phosphates.
How did you acclimate the specimens?
My lights are Coralife 10,000K Actinic (okay, can't remember the rest, I wll have to dig out the box),
Yes it does get sunight.
I feed flake in the morning and brine in the pm, and I feed my anemones about every 3-4 days.
I guess I don't understand your question of what my skimmate looks like.
I have replaced my phos. filter about 3-4 times in the last month.
The salt I use is Oceanic, (I use the same salt in my other tank).
I acclimated them by floating them about 25 min. then put them into a container and adding small amount of water every 10-15min. For about an hour. The one sea hare acts just fine, however he really isn't doing much that I can see, But I still can't find the other one...
 

socal57che

Active Member
Originally Posted by rooroo
http:///forum/post/2489473
Yes it does get sunight.
I feed flake in the morning and brine in the pm, and I feed my anemones about every 3-4 days.
I guess I don't understand your question of what my skimmate looks like.
First I would eliminate the sunlight.
I would also switch from flake (which likely contains phosphates from seaweed) and brine (which has no nutritional value) to mysis once a day or every 2 days depending on your livestock.
Skimmate is the crud produced by your skimmer. Is it nearly clear or dark and stinks to high heaven. If it isn't very nasty try adjusting it until you get a darker, nastier skimmate. May take several days to find the right adjustment.
I think sunlight and flakes are your culprit. I would start carbon just to be safe, since you still have a sea slug MIA. Tomorrow I would start looking for him by moving rock and looking it over.
 

rooroo

Member
The stuff that comes out of the skimmer is dark and nasty, smells like the sewer. I will try to eliminate the sunlight. Unfortunatly our house is pretty bright, might have to shoot the sun or something. LOL.
 

rooroo

Member
Yeah i Know. I will probally start looking for him tonight. I just can't figure this stupid tank out. I have had nothing but problems with it. I will let you know what I find.
 

socal57che

Active Member
Originally Posted by rooroo
http:///forum/post/2489616
I just can't figure this stupid tank out. I have had nothing but problems with it. I will let you know what I find.
Our 100 gal was the same way. Like it was marked for death. One major issue after another. Recently replaced it with a 72 bow and have gone months without issue. Can't explain it.
 

rooroo

Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2489618
Our 100 gal was the same way. Like it was marked for death. One major issue after another. Recently replaced it with a 72 bow and have gone months without issue. Can't explain it.

Eventually I am going to replace all of mine with a 300gal. Then hopefully I won't have anymore problems....
 

bellanavis

Active Member
Some sea hares do burry themselfes in the sand, but they alsolove to hide in very small spaces in the rock. Not all release toins when they die, they only do that if they are stressed. If you find one, and it does not move, when they die, and do not release toxins, you can tell if its dead by if its rock hard. If its hard, its dead, but be carefull, don't hurt it, because if you hurt it, and its still alive, it might release toins.
 
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