Seahorse question...
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oceanjumper
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Though I do not desire to keep seahorses, I do adore those little animals. While the tone of the post was questionable, I am with Azonic. Demand creates supply. It is that simple. We can reason/justify what we want, it is just a matter of economics.
Having said this. I greatly admire Jon. Clearly, Jon knows what he is doing and I will not condemn his passion. In contrary, I rather see people like Jon keeping seahorses, studying and learning from them. Instead of banning all wild caught, I rather see people like Jon starting their own seahorse breeding business. Give a man a fish; he will eat for a day. Teach a man how to fish; he will eat forever. With knowledge comes productivity. Learn how to breed/raise captive bred species, make it more economical -say cheaper- to supply them and outcompete the wild caught. If nothing else, sure enough, with lobbying from EPA and -low and behold- some aquarium organizations, import tariffs could be employed on wild caught species.
I am glad to see members like Azonic dare raising their voice. It doesn't hurt to reflect the ethics of our hobby so once in a while. Jon, you better graduate with shining marks. Shoot me an email if you need help with your seahorse farm business plan.
Having said this. I greatly admire Jon. Clearly, Jon knows what he is doing and I will not condemn his passion. In contrary, I rather see people like Jon keeping seahorses, studying and learning from them. Instead of banning all wild caught, I rather see people like Jon starting their own seahorse breeding business. Give a man a fish; he will eat for a day. Teach a man how to fish; he will eat forever. With knowledge comes productivity. Learn how to breed/raise captive bred species, make it more economical -say cheaper- to supply them and outcompete the wild caught. If nothing else, sure enough, with lobbying from EPA and -low and behold- some aquarium organizations, import tariffs could be employed on wild caught species.
I am glad to see members like Azonic dare raising their voice. It doesn't hurt to reflect the ethics of our hobby so once in a while. Jon, you better graduate with shining marks. Shoot me an email if you need help with your seahorse farm business plan.
jonthefb
Active Member
thanks guys. its nice to hear some word of encouragement!
dan, i would not place a horse in your tank. there is no doubt in my mind that it would wander too close to that anemone while hunting for food and the anemone would make a quick meal out of it.
itchy, i am really sorry i missed you posts. i hvae been really busy larely and rarely find time to get on the boards. whin i do i usually try to help on the current topics nad dont go back very far. again i apologize. if you ever have any questions, please feel free to e-mail me at jonthan.garnett@attbi.com
benj, as i said above, seahorses are vertically oriented animals and while the wild caught ones actualy stake out several meters, of territory, the vertical height of the tank is much more important. i would again strongly reccommend purchasing captive bred, as these animals are already accustomed to a captive lifestyle, are trainde to feed on frozen foods, and dont have to be with the opposite ---. as i stated above, seahorses are one of the only other animals in the world that form pair bonds for life, meaning that a male and female will mate only with each other throughout their life. if you purchase a wc horse, it is likely that if it is an adult, you have torn away part of a couple and the horse left in the wild, will typically never mate again. cb horses are not the same, and many times you can purchase very young individuals that have not formed pair bonds yet, and thus get htem to do so.
benj, there is a type of dwarf seahorse that hails from the coasts of florida called Hippocampus zoasterae. i know of a website that sells cb pygmy horses, and from what i understand they do very well in smaller tanks. this might be an option for you.
oceanjumper. i agree with you totally, just as itchy stated she purchased 4 wc, and went back to the lfs after yelling at them and low and behold they had more wild caught in stock. i have convinced the lfs that i work at up her to let me start a horse tnak up here for the purposes of cultivating young, and am trying to get the owner to buy a plankton reactor so tha the babies will have the proper nutritious food. i will let you all know how that wrks out, but have also gotten them to sell cb horses instead of wc. i think that people just dont know enough about them, and how fragile they really are, and if i can help releive a littel pressure off the wild species that are still left, i am going to try my damndest to do so. again bud, i totally agree with you and appreciate your comments.
if anyone has any questions about seahorses, their requirements, or identification, please feel free to email me at jonthan.garnett@attbi.com
good luck to you all
jon
dan, i would not place a horse in your tank. there is no doubt in my mind that it would wander too close to that anemone while hunting for food and the anemone would make a quick meal out of it.
itchy, i am really sorry i missed you posts. i hvae been really busy larely and rarely find time to get on the boards. whin i do i usually try to help on the current topics nad dont go back very far. again i apologize. if you ever have any questions, please feel free to e-mail me at jonthan.garnett@attbi.com
benj, as i said above, seahorses are vertically oriented animals and while the wild caught ones actualy stake out several meters, of territory, the vertical height of the tank is much more important. i would again strongly reccommend purchasing captive bred, as these animals are already accustomed to a captive lifestyle, are trainde to feed on frozen foods, and dont have to be with the opposite ---. as i stated above, seahorses are one of the only other animals in the world that form pair bonds for life, meaning that a male and female will mate only with each other throughout their life. if you purchase a wc horse, it is likely that if it is an adult, you have torn away part of a couple and the horse left in the wild, will typically never mate again. cb horses are not the same, and many times you can purchase very young individuals that have not formed pair bonds yet, and thus get htem to do so.
benj, there is a type of dwarf seahorse that hails from the coasts of florida called Hippocampus zoasterae. i know of a website that sells cb pygmy horses, and from what i understand they do very well in smaller tanks. this might be an option for you.
oceanjumper. i agree with you totally, just as itchy stated she purchased 4 wc, and went back to the lfs after yelling at them and low and behold they had more wild caught in stock. i have convinced the lfs that i work at up her to let me start a horse tnak up here for the purposes of cultivating young, and am trying to get the owner to buy a plankton reactor so tha the babies will have the proper nutritious food. i will let you all know how that wrks out, but have also gotten them to sell cb horses instead of wc. i think that people just dont know enough about them, and how fragile they really are, and if i can help releive a littel pressure off the wild species that are still left, i am going to try my damndest to do so. again bud, i totally agree with you and appreciate your comments.
if anyone has any questions about seahorses, their requirements, or identification, please feel free to email me at jonthan.garnett@attbi.com
good luck to you all
jon
danrw84
Active Member
jon, are you planning on publishing that book you just wrote above?
lol
the anemone is in a highflow area where i suspect the sehorse will not go....besides, dont think the maroon would allow it to get that close!!
do you think i could give it a shot on....the left side of the tank is very low flow...and has a branchy rock. what do you think? my girlfriend just loves them and i think they are so cute.
id really like to try to keep one
lol
the anemone is in a highflow area where i suspect the sehorse will not go....besides, dont think the maroon would allow it to get that close!!
do you think i could give it a shot on....the left side of the tank is very low flow...and has a branchy rock. what do you think? my girlfriend just loves them and i think they are so cute.
id really like to try to keep one
jonthefb
Active Member
i really would reccommend against it, especially if you have a maroon clown and and anemone. you rhorse will cruise ove rto the high flow area even if its really turblulent, and the possibility of the clown beating it up or it being eaten by the anemone is a risk i wouldnt wat to take.
man i would love to publish an article on horses, i need to do a bit mroe research though!
good luck guys
jon
man i would love to publish an article on horses, i need to do a bit mroe research though!
good luck guys
jon