Seaweed Sheets Question

[jjlittle]

I was just replying to the fact of Tangs & seaweed sheets not all the other post sorry. Yes he may be stressed in his new home which is very common with tangs. I would wonder what other fish are in there for they are fish that will shut down with any aggression from other fish. I dont think there is a bacteria thing but he will most likely get ick if he is real stressed. I would put him in quarintine tank till he is looking & eatting better.

 

[tizzo]

No, no...that wasn't in reference to what you said...
It was in reference to the quote I put at the top of my post.

 

[oreo12]

I just purchased a clown tang, he is a juvi. About 2in long, a beautiful fish. This was his first full day in the tank. he has not eaten yet and I am afraid he will die due to being so young. He kinda hides which I know is normal at first. I was wondering if anyone uses the seaweed sheets with the clip that suctions to the tank for feeding and if anyone uses this method for tangs or even the clown tang. I really want him to be ok..
You don't think that if a fish is not happy in his environment, that not eating would be a way for him to express that?? You think that the fish just decides to stop eating for no appearant reason at all and we shouldn't even TRY to troubleshoot why? Fish stop eating for a reason. Stress! Finding the cause of that stress can be as simple as "the move" or as difficult as a bacterial infection" but it shouldn't be ignored and a specific tank size is recomended on pretty much every species of fish for a reason.
"Yeah, tangs love algae sheets." Would that have been the correct reply?? Everybody knows tangs love algae. Crzyfshguy said his wasn't eating, so tank size would be worth mentioning in this case.
Yes that was all that he asked for. I did not see do you think my tank is large enough or even a mention of tank size. Maybe he is going to get a large tank maybe he wants to get this fish a little larger for a larger tank. You just asume that was or is where that fish will stay. I don't no about your lfs but mine have a bout 30 1foot by 1 dived sections where they put there fish and they eat. Maybe he has some flake stuff his tang would not eat mine eats brine shrimp and the sheet stuff but hates flake food. Maybe it was your tone that made my skin turn and my stomack sick. But so often it is tank size and light that everyone thinks is the problem. Maybe we should all through our tanks out and get a home in the bottom of the sea.

 

[crzyfshygy]

Tizzo you are very opinionated and seem to be angry when you write...don't be, please!

The LFS I purchased that beautiful fish from was eating fine when he was purchased and he was in a 5gl tank with about 3 inverts. :thinking: The bottom line is the fish is in a new tank and will not be used to his surroundings yet, therefore he will not eat right away....SOMEONE WHO HAS MILLIONS OF BOOKS SHOULD KNOW THAT....HELLO!

I appreciate your some what mild concern on a topic that was brought up by you....you seem to already have all the answers so why are you even on this site? Anyhoo can you please name all the books that you have in alphabetical order so I can begin my research?

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by crzyfshygy
Tizzo you are very opinionated and seem to be angry when you write...don't be, please!

The LFS I purchased that beautiful fish from was eating fine when he was purchased and he was in a 5gl tank with about 3 inverts. :thinking: The bottom line is the fish is in a new tank and will not be used to his surroundings yet, therefore he will not eat right away....SOMEONE WHO HAS MILLIONS OF BOOKS SHOULD KNOW THAT....HELLO!

I appreciate your some what mild concern on a topic that was brought up by you....you seem to already have all the answers so why are you even on this site? Anyhoo can you please name all the books that you have in alphabetical order so I can begin my research?
Many folks log time here to help others from making misatkes. I have been in this hobby for 30 plus years and have probably made just about every mistake possible.
Many of us are on this site to help......who would answer your questions if folks with experience did not frequent these boards?
Your clown tang will require 6 feet of swimming space in the near future (if he makes it). THe 100 you have planned still is not big enough for this animal. Clown tangs are not easy to keep so any additional enviornmental condition that can cause extra stress is not good.
Most of the info you need can be found on this site using the search feature or other sites. .You will find few that will tell you a CLown tang can be kept is a small tank for any sizable lenght of time.
You should be thankful that folks are trying to help you...with a response like the above quote folks may not be so eager to assist you in the future.
I have read this thread an Tizzzo was giving you solid and godd advice.

 

[tnguyen69]

I agree with ScubaDOO. If you ask a questions, expect that you may get an answer you don't like. These people take time to try to help, and unless they say something incredibly stupid, I would appreciate that they took the time. CHEERS to all who put time into helping us Newbies!

 

[xjayx]

I feed my tang the seaweed/algee sheets...
Just about a two inch chunk at a time and either clip it to the glass or pin it to a rock.
Mine eats the crap out of it and I give him a good piece once or twice a week.
You could try grinding some garlic and letting the algee soak in that for a while if they're not eating...
mine also love lettice and spinnach.
He's a pig.
I'm not sure about it hurting the water quality though if it sits there to long...
I'm kind of wondering that myself.

 

[1journeyman]

The root of this thread is that there is a fish not eating.
Fact: Fish must eat to survive.
Fact: Many different things can cause a fish to not eat.
When a post asks a question, it is ALWAYS a good idea to get as much info as possible. To answer the question on algae sheets with a simple "yes" or "no" would be irresponsible. Chances are, if a person is asking a question they don't know everything BUT what they are asking about.
Was the fish eating in the pet store? Did you watch it eat before you bought it?
"the fish is in a new tank and will not be used to his surroundings yet, therefore he will not eat right away....SOMEONE WHO HAS MILLIONS OF BOOKS SHOULD KNOW"
I've now added 8 different fish to my tank. Without exception, each one ate within hours of being introduced. An occasional fish may not eat for a few days, but I certainly wouldn't say that about all fish.
Tangs are swimmers. They need room. Your fish doesn't have what it needs...
"I wish there was a policy and procedure manual on this hooby (sic) "
Which book have you read that says keeping a Tang in a small aquarium is healthy or natural? I'd bet none. Don't wish for a "perfect" book if you aren't willing to listen to what imperfect books say.
"but I was hoping to try and control the growth
??? By doing what, starving the fish???? If a fish is healthy it grows. Sorry, you can't control Mother Nature.
"i like that and i agree ive seen 8 tangs in a 55 and 6 5''ers in a 100"
"all happy too"
I've seen people living in gutters and city trash dumps; I'm sure that they were happy too. I've seen crippled animals with broken limbs; I'm sure they were happy too. I've seen cats removed from houses covered in filth; I'm sure they were happy too. etc., etc...
Unless you are some kind of crazy animal telepath you can't say things like "those fish, living in sub-optimal conditions, are happy"
If you are for sure going to keep the Tang try buying some live macro algae and putting it directly into your tank for it to eat.

 

[crzyfshygy]

I do not think anything held captivity is really truly happy that was once free! We can just try to provide some kind lifestyle to mimic what was once there's!

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by crzyfshygy
I do not think anything held captivity is really truly happy that was once free! We can just try to provide some kind lifestyle to mimic what was once there's!
That's the point. Tangs need swimming room to exercise and behave naturally..... to put one in a tank smaller than it needs isn't providing that.

 

[puffer32]

but I was hoping to try and control the growth.
That is sooooooo

 

[tizzo]

Originally Posted by crzyfshygy
Tizzo you are very opinionated and seem to be angry when you write...don't be, please!

It's funny, your not the first person to tell me that, but honestly I am not angry at all!! I guess...passionate would be more accurate., LOL...
Opinionated?? I would hate to think that but it may be possible. I'd hate to think it because opinions are unsupported and I was going for more of a factual stance. I guess anything "factual" can be deemed as opinionated in this hobby so to clarify, the majority of experienced opinions, until reasonably contradicted, becomes my "fact". Zis make sence??
There will ALWAYS be that one person who can and prolly has done something we all think is irresponsible, but if 20 other hobbyiests have seen more disadvantages then, well...
So, I apologize if I came across angry, really I'm not and wasn't. I like to be told things I don't know and I assume others do as well, more often than this time have I been wrong on that perspective.
I will back out of the thread, not changing my perspective, and if you wanna ask the same question in another thread, I will not reply so your question doesn't get all off topic.
No offense intended, none taken.

 

[tizzo]

Originally Posted by crzyfshygy
Anyhoo can you please name all the books that you have in alphabetical order so I can begin my research?

I didn't read this far when I replied to the first post, but I reread and saw that...
Are you serious?? You want me to list every one of my books that say the gallons per inch ratio that is NOT 1 inch per 2 gallons??
How bout we make this easier and you list the books that say it's OK, cause your list will be much shorter...
Still not angry, just sad now...
And as for why am I on this sight...
Lemme answer that...
I still have questions, do a search you'llsee I post many. I never said I knew everything, just posting what I DO know...
If you want other opinions on the same subject, do a search on tangs and you will see a lot more people than just me have the same opinion.
But you are dead set to believe the guy at your fish store where you bought the fish, instead of anybody who tells you otherwise... ( "Lucky you have such a small tank..." please. ) that your mind is made up that you are providing an optimum environment...so with that being said, what was your question again??
He ate fine at the LFS, not eating at your house, do they normally like seaweed sheets? Was that it??
Answer...yes they normally like those, try calling your LFS and see if you are offering the same brand...
Yeah, I guess now I am angry... Not because our opinions differ, but because you asked me to list my books in alphabetical order. That sounds like a request a 12 year old would make. The distrust, the sidestepped insult, yeah, pretty much the rest of that particular post...
Done now... Just keep us posted on the progress of your new pet...