seperate sump and refugium

bkvreef

bkvreef

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Originally Posted by TurningTim
I think you would be good. I always like to under estimate b/c you can always add water but you can't redo the baffles. Now is the straight across? B/c you can move the volume around so the fuge is higher and the sump is lower. I always try and keep the fuge on the high side (maybe an 1.5" below top of tank) and then adjust the sump volume.
The big question is can you get the 55 under the stand? Not that it will just fit but actually get it in there. Cross braces on the stand are tough sometimes......
The cross braces actually are not a problem. I don't know if I'll be able to angle it in enough to make it fit. I will probably buy a used one and I can return it if it doesn't fit.
 
turningtim

turningtim

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Cut up a cardboard box and just mock one up and see if it fits. The longest I could get under mine was 30" and I removed the back cross and replaced it with 2 on either side to get that in there.
BTW, Why the heck am I teaching you math! LOL!
 
bkvreef

bkvreef

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Originally Posted by TurningTim
Cut up a cardboard box and just mock one up and see if it fits. The longest I could get under mine was 30" and I removed the back cross and replaced it with 2 on either side to get that in there.
BTW, Why the heck am I teaching you math! LOL!
I like the carboard cut out.
I did the cubic inches but I didn't know the 231.
 
bkvreef

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I was thinking though does it really matter because I still would have to take out my present sump to see if the other fits?
 
turningtim

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Thats your call. But if it doesn't fit your out a bunch of work and would have to put the old sump back anyway. Are you confident that it will fit? Besides I keep thinking its a 55 stand but its a 55 sump under a 100 stand.......
 
bkvreef

bkvreef

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Originally Posted by TurningTim
Thats your call. But if it doesn't fit your out a bunch of work and would have to put the old sump back anyway. Are you confident that it will fit? Besides I keep thinking its a 55 stand but its a 55 sump under a 100 stand.......
Ok let's assume I do the 55g. I want to put my octopus 220 in it and phos ban reactor in the input section. Then a refugium. Then the pump (in the sump). Less drilling is safer for me!!!
I am planning on making the pump section as small as possible (just fit the pump and a little wiggle room in case I change pumps down the road.
For the intake area I was thinking 20" or so. So that would hopefully leave me with about 20" for the refugium.
The bubble trap would be about 15.5" - 16.5" for the pieces that sit on the bottom. What space should be below the high/middle one? One inch between each baffle.
How high should the piece seperating the refugium and pump be? (same height as baffles?)
Also I am going to assume that the tank is glass and that I will be using acrylic pieces. What glue should I use?
 
turningtim

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I would make my skimmer section as small as possible. Just fit in there what you need to. If you can run the phos reactor outside I would do that.
Don't make the pump section to small b/c thats where your evaporation is going to show. If you don't have enough water in there then the pump will run dry.
The fuge baffle has to be the same height as the rest in a flow through design. You water level will be determined by the highest baffle.
I would go with 1.5" between baffles and under the middle trap piece.
I would suggest using glass on glass or acrylic on acrylic. You really can't bond acrylic to glass. Some have done it with silicone but some have also failed and had to redo. Take your measurements and have a glass shop cut them up for you, shouldn't cost that much.
Tim
 
bkvreef

bkvreef

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Originally Posted by TurningTim
I would make my skimmer section as small as possible. Just fit in there what you need to. If you can run the phos reactor outside I would do that.
Don't make the pump section to small b/c thats where your evaporation is going to show. If you don't have enough water in there then the pump will run dry.
The fuge baffle has to be the same height as the rest in a flow through design. You water level will be determined by the highest baffle.
I would go with 1.5" between baffles and under the middle trap piece.
I would suggest using glass on glass or acrylic on acrylic. You really can't bond acrylic to glass. Some have done it with silicone but some have also failed and had to redo. Take your measurements and have a glass shop cut them up for you, shouldn't cost that much.
Tim
Tim,
Thanks I greatly appreciate the input!!!
I started another thread since this post was straying from the original idea.
 
bkvreef

bkvreef

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Originally Posted by TurningTim
You could also tie them together with a HOB U-tube overflow......
I don't think the 55g is going to fit so back to the drawing board
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I have a u-tube from an old overflow unit. The entire unit is broken but what about using the u-tube inside the refugium and attaching a tube to the tube and having it flow into the sump?
 
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