Sick BTA?

[tangwhispr]

Originally Posted by BexleyFish
Also, if I dont really want to upgrade my lights, could I buy one of those underwater directional lights to piont directly at the BTA? idk if they make those very strong

Quotes like this really irk me....if you don't want or have the money to spend to properly care for your anemone, coral, fish, etc. then get rid of it. And next time please do your research before needlessly killing a creature from the ocean.

 

[perfectdark]

Originally Posted by TangWhispr
Please don't give out information that is not correct, you're only hurting the original poster. These need moderate to strong lighting. Right here on SWF.com it says "Meaty Foods and Strong Lighting" I have seen your other posts, you also seem to think frogspawn hosting clowns is ok. Please do yourself and everyone on these forums a favor and don't post until you do some research.
Tang... Im not trying to start anything here but Dawman is correct..He stated that T-5's wont be enough lighting if you dont get the proper wattage for the tank that is listed. This is true, if you have T-5's or VHO's and you only have 65 watts of them on the tank listed you cannot keep an anenome. He also states that blexley barley has more than std flourescent lighting, which is also true. And he states that you dont need T-5's or MH to keep a BTA.. another true statment. However you do need at least Power Compacts with Actinic lighting and in a wattage capable of sustaining photosynthis at the full depth of the tank... And my above post spells out the rest.

 

[tangwhispr]

Originally Posted by PerfectDark
Tang... Im not trying to start anything here but Dawman is correct..He stated that T-5's wont be enough lighting if you dont get the proper wattage for the tank that is listed. This is true, if you have T-5's or VHO's and you only have 65 watts of them on the tank listed you cannot keep an anenome. He also states that blexley barley has more than std flourescent lighting, which is also true. And he states that you dont need T-5's or MH to keep a BTA.. another true statment. However you do need at least Power Compacts with Actinic lighting and in a wattage capable of sustaining photosynthis at the full depth of the tank... And my above post spells out the rest.

I do agree, but that needs to be specified, his responses are often misleading. Bottom line is the TS doesn't have whats needed to properly care for the anemone. We can split hairs, but a any decent t-5 fixture or VHO Fixture will be enough. I don't even want to get into the discussion on PAR values of dif lights. Can we agree to disagree?

 

[tangwhispr]

Calling mr Rod Buehler! Can you please shed some "light" on this subject.

 

[perfectdark]

Originally Posted by TangWhispr
I do agree, but that needs to be specified, his responses are often misleading. Bottom line is the TS doesn't have whats needed to properly care for the anemone. We can split hairs, but a any decent t-5 fixture or VHO Fixture will be enough. I don't even want to get into the discussion on PAR values of dif lights. Can we agree to disagree?

He did specify thats why I stood up for him... "You don`t need T-5 or MH to keep a BTA healthy . BexleyFish barely has lighting more than standard lighting . ---->Just needs the proper amount . T-5 won`t do any good if you don`t have enough<----. There is no agreeing to disagree this is a completly true and acurate statment. Im confused at what clarification is needed to fully understand what was typed.
"We can split hairs, but a any decent t-5 fixture or VHO Fixture will be enough"
(true but if you dont have the wattage in the bulb that your tank requires you might as well hang a nightlight over the tank.)

 

[tangwhispr]

Originally Posted by PerfectDark
He did specify thats why I stood up for him... "You don`t need T-5 or MH to keep a BTA healthy . BexleyFish barely has lighting more than standard lighting . (HERE)Just needs the proper amount . T-5 won`t do any good if you don`t have enough (HERE). There is no agreeing to disagree this is a completly true and acurate statment. Im confused at what clarification is needed to fully understand what was typed.

Why don't you finish what he said" . BTAs tend to shy away from MH as it can be too much for them . The whole "need T-5 & MH" is a very common misconception on this forum "
This is complete BS. I am done with this thread, This is why i rarely check this site, way to many noobs giving advice. Thats why I go to -- or UF for answers to my questions

 

[perfectdark]

Sorry you feel that way but.. he is correct again BTA's tend to not enjoy high intense lighting like MH's...This species is known for being able to thrive in tanks with high wattage power compacts.. Although you may not agree I do research and my statments are ones made after I find the answers. And im not trying to pick a fight, I am mearly trying to correct what seems to be a misunderstanding in hopes that its not misread again and misleading anyone else who reads it. Probably being the only one species of anenomes that may hide from such high lighting as HQI's as they can be too intense, is the BTA.
Just so people know there is some validity to my statments a very well known author by the name of Joyce Wilkerson has posted common anenomes with the lights that they can and will thrive under.. one of many is
Entacmaea AKA the bubble tip.. Her surveys regarding this species.
a 20 gal tank with 3-15 watt 50/50 PC lighting was capable of sustaining life in a BTA with no adverse affects and for over 2 years. FYI thats only 2.25 watts per gal although that equation doesnt always suit the scenario for this explanation it gets the point accross.

 

[nietzsche]

are there articles and research done that BTAs hate MH and T5 lighting?
how deep in the ocean are these guys found? if something says it needs strong lighting then it probably does.. giving it the minimum just because others does it, well thats something else.
something might live, but will it actually thrive and grow like it should?

 

[bexleyfish]

Ok I think people really need to calm down, like perfect dark said, no one is trying to start anything. I agree i am very new to the whole lighting thing... thats why I am asking all of you. As far as my comment about not wanting to spend money, I said "I dont want to" not "I wont" I am simply looking for the cheapest way to keep this anemone. Now that that is out of the way...
Perfect Dark, can I put in a higher wattage bulb in my fixture? Could I get one powerful enough to sustain the anemone? If not, what do I need to keep the anemone? About what price range? -Thanks

 

[dawman]

Originally Posted by TangWhispr
Please don't give out information that is not correct, you're only hurting the original poster. These need moderate to strong lighting. Right here on SWF.com it says "Meaty Foods and Strong Lighting" I have seen your other posts, you also seem to think frogspawn hosting clowns is ok. Please do yourself and everyone on these forums a favor and don't post until you do some research.

Excuse me , Ive done my research along with experience for years . I have many BTAs and LTAs under PCs for years . Maybe you should get the correct info before you post.

 

[dawman]

Originally Posted by TangWhispr
This is complete BS. I am done with this thread, This is why i rarely check this site, way to many noobs giving advice. Thats why I go to -- or UF for answers to my questions

Tang , here is some good info YOU obviously missed . Karen is well known and very knowledgeable , read up Mr. Anemone.
http://www.karensroseanemones.com/lighting.htm

 

[dawman]

Originally Posted by BexleyFish
Ok I think people really need to calm down, like perfect dark said, no one is trying to start anything. I agree i am very new to the whole lighting thing... thats why I am asking all of you. As far as my comment about not wanting to spend money, I said "I dont want to" not "I wont" I am simply looking for the cheapest way to keep this anemone. Now that that is out of the way...
Perfect Dark, can I put in a higher wattage bulb in my fixture? Could I get one powerful enough to sustain the anemone? If not, what do I need to keep the anemone? About what price range? -Thanks

You need a fixture with more than one bulb if going pc . I like the Coralife Lunar Aqualight fixtures . What are the dimensions of your tank ? A 24" Aqualight is $135 from Drs for example of price . The new Odyssea lights seem to be good and about half the price at Aquatraders . Once we find the length and depth of your tank , it will be easier to get an exact .

 

[bexleyfish]

Ok well its a flat hex so the dimensions are... Front:23" Back:35" Height:20" Front to Back:12"
I really appreciate your help Dawman and Perfect Dark! As I said I am really new to lighting because I used to do FOWLR. This is the first time I think the LFS has mislead me so I thought all was well, I am usually not this compulsive on buying animals (I have many)

 

[perfectdark]

I am not familiar with what type of light fixtures are out there for specific style tanks. @ 20" deep your depth is similar to a std 55 gal tank.. I think.. If you get one of the above mentioned light fixtures in the length that will fit your tank I believe you will want to see about..275 watts with 10k daylight and actinics.

 

[bexleyfish]

That is 275 total?

 

[dawman]

They don`t make a pc light that has much wattage for the length of this tank . Most pc lights are 130 watts up to 30" and then 36" is 193 watts .

 

[perfectdark]

Yes that would be 275 total.. and... Thanks dawman.. I know nothing about fixtures and light sizes for non std tanks. As for options I am sorry I dont know enough about product to give you advise on that.

 

[bexleyfish]

Should I be looking at PC's. It seems that they are not the way to go. Should I be in Metal Halide or VHO.... Its hard to find a good intensity in 30"

 

[jimmy 4]

look a healthy LTA under pc's. Crazy!

 

[perfectdark]

Originally Posted by BexleyFish
Should I be looking at PC's. It seems that they are not the way to go. Should I be in Metal Halide or VHO.... Its hard to find a good intensity in 30"
Its a question dependant on money and availability of product. Your choices of corals are endless with MH and strong VHO's but budget dependant sw tanks do well with soft corals some lower light anenomes and PC lights. your choice.