Thanks for your advice, I have a ten gallon in my room and a 55gal show tank...Unfortunely (sp) I have had really bad luck with the fish lately...When I first setup the tank back in June 2001 I was really motivated about it..I had two sargent major damsels and both got ich so I pulled everything out switched substrate from cc to ls...then I got two clownfish and one of them was attacked by my serpent star(no longer in the tank) and the other was sucked into the grill of my filter after a power outage...after that I was really pissed off and basically didn't touch my tank until about 2 wks ago...about a week ago I put two blue devil damsels in and they both got ich and died....I have a 10 gallon eclipise in my room and I am going to use it as a Q tank...I have 3 pieces of lr and about 1in of ls ...from what I have read I should remove all of this and get a piece of pvc pipe or something for them to hid in and go from there....I know this is really long winded but I am really frustrated with all the disappointments that I have had...Please help me! <img src="graemlins//confused.gif" border="0" alt="[confused]" /> <img src="graemlins//confused2.gif" border="0" alt="[confused2]" />