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mantisman51

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Beck is a loudmouth who loves using hystrionics to make his point. I have never been able to watch him for more than 2 minutes, even though I agree with him probably 75% of the time. (There's my confession slinger) I will join your petition to deprive Glenn Beck and FOX news of their Constitutional right, when you and your lefty pals join me in depriving Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers of their Constitutional rights. Once again a person on the left has shown (CLEARLY) what side wants to "tear up the Constitution". You don't agree, so he must be silenced. Which is EXACTLY what the 1st Amendment is designed for-to keep tyrant-wannabies from imposing their views on everyone else and silencing anyone who disagrees with them. Slinger, I feel sorry for you. You must live in such a cloud of fear and loathing.
 
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tizzo

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Originally Posted by Rslinger
http:///forum/post/3110744
Dear friends,
It's part of a larger argument Beck has been making: that President Obama wants to serve the needs of Black communities at White people's expense. This kind of talk stirs up fear, hate, and it can lead to violence.
This sentence, I will agree with you, should have never been said. To say it can stir up hate and lead to violence, I'll even agree with that. The fear part, not so much.
But here's the problem. By this statement, he's mixing up the word "class" with race. By that I mean, he should have said, "Obama wants to serve the needs of the "lower classes" at the expense of the "higher class people"... (class defined by income for the sake of this post)
To assume that lower classes are black is just down right ignorant, but sadly a common error.
But forget black and white... You want to avoid the "fear, and hate" then why aren't you taking the stand for the classes.
If it's whites paying for blacks it's all kinds of wrong, but if it's rich paying for poor, you support it??
I guess I'm old school in that I really don't believe anybody should get anything for nothing, with the exception of rare and individually evaluated cases that advance the recipient to no longer need assistance (ie college)...
I don't mind taxes. I drive on the roads, I'll pay auto taxes. I like the protection of the police force, I'll pay the city and state taxes. But tax me cause YOU can't afford insurance?? Why again?? I don't know you. I don't care about you... If I did, I'd volunteer to pay your medical bills, but I don't. I would never volunteer it, so why are they considering forcing me to it??
The only people who benefit from this are the ones who need it, and to be blunt...I really don't care what you need. (Not "YOU" rslinger, just people in general)...
Heck, I think there should be electric company reform, water distribution reform, auto insurance reform, state tax allocation reform, and education lottery reform, but it's not gonna happen...
 

uneverno

Active Member
Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/3112537
How is a tax rebate or tax cut "spending"?
Because both equate to negative revenue. There was no corresponding budget reduction to balance the returned money, therefore it is spending. In addition, the money was collected and then returned, meaning that there were bureaucratic salaries and processing costs involved over and above the cost of the rebates themselves.
Accounting is a zero sum game. If the number to the right of the = sign is negative, it is debt regardless of what you call it.
The feds (both sides) need to STOP SPENDING!
Agreed.
 

tang master

Member
Originally Posted by mantisman51
http:///forum/post/3112691
Beck is a loudmouth who loves using hystrionics to make his point. I have never been able to watch him for more than 2 minutes, even though I agree with him probably 75% of the time. (There's my confession slinger) I will join your petition to deprive Glenn Beck and FOX news of their Constitutional right, when you and your lefty pals join me in depriving Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers of their Constitutional rights. Once again a person on the left has shown (CLEARLY) what side wants to "tear up the Constitution". You don't agree, so he must be silenced. Which is EXACTLY what the 1st Amendment is designed for-to keep tyrant-wannabies from imposing their views on everyone else and silencing anyone who disagrees with them. Slinger, I feel sorry for you. You must live in such a cloud of fear and loathing.
wooohooo, go mantisman.lol. i just dont get why everyone thinks they can try and take away other peoples right to freedom of speech.
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by Rslinger
http:///forum/post/3112270
But i think that if all the fear mongering and plan old refusal to listen would stop we could have a health bill that is deficit neutral.
Hey man, I've got some ocean front property in Arizona! and if you buy that I'll throw the golden gate bridge in for free.
 
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