star/pod

[renogaw]

got some corals tonight, luckily i did a FW dip...
i THINK this may be a pod. first thought was a snail, or a limpet, but the body is segmented and curls up when touched. it seems to be smooth under the shell though, no sign of legs.
second is a starfish. it's not an asterina, but is only about the size of a dime and has orange spots on the top.

 

[ophiura]

Why do you think the first star is not an asterina?
Are you sure the second is not a chiton? Can you get a macro shot of it? Check for 8 overlapping plates on that one.

 

[renogaw]

yes, there are 8 overlapping plates, no macro shot though.
i don't think it's an asterina cause the legs are formed completely, and only 5 of them. plus it's got eyes that none of my other asterinas have. if you think it's an asterina then ok...it just doesn't look like any of the thousands i have in the tank and have seen pics of.

 

[ophiura]

The second pic is a chiton.
Asterina is a highly variable genus with loads of species, virtually impossible to distinguish, even for seastar experts. So while it is possible i is not Asterina, but a close relative, it would be very difficult to get any closer. So coloration, number of arms, etc can all vary greatly. I would say in function it will be very much the same, one hopes, as the others you have

 

[renogaw]

Originally Posted by ophiura
http:///forum/post/3162623
The second pic is a chiton.
Asterina is a highly variable genus with loads of species, virtually impossible to distinguish, even for seastar experts. So while it is possible i is not Asterina, but a close relative, it would be very difficult to get any closer. So coloration, number of arms, etc can all vary greatly. I would say in function it will be very much the same, one hopes, as the others you have

so the say 40 off one coral dead in a FW dip wasn't that good of a thing then (on the chitons, i couldn't care less on the asterina hehe, i've got too many of them)

 

[ophiura]

Dang, that's a lot!!

 

[renogaw]

Originally Posted by ophiura
http:///forum/post/3162628
Dang, that's a lot!!
yea...the rock was only about 3x2x2 also...i've got some in the bag still, ok to drop in then?

 

[ophiura]

Well, uh, assuming I got the id right. So far as I know, they are grazers.
The inside surface should kinda look like the foot of a snail or limpet...

 

[renogaw]

Originally Posted by ophiura
http:///forum/post/3162633
Well, uh, assuming I got the id right. So far as I know, they are grazers.
The inside surface should kinda look like the foot of a snail or limpet...
yes, it is smooth like a snail

 

[bill109]

Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/3162639
yes, it is smooth like a snail
whoa! i have been bitiing my nails..
those corals i gave him today and i have lots of those stars. they have orange dots on them. they dont seem to do much. i see them on corals very little or the time and when they are they dont seem to close up the zoas as if they are eating it.
now, you mentioned isopods in the PM.. any ideas reno?
im trying to get some of those snails to figure out if they are sundial snails
btw, i looked at my tank after the lights went out and i have more chitons than i can count.

 

[renogaw]

Originally Posted by bill109
http:///forum/post/3162671
whoa! i have been bitiing my nails..
those corals i gave him today and i have lots of those stars. they have orange dots on them. they dont seem to do much. i see them on corals very little or the time and when they are they dont seem to close up the zoas as if they are eating it.
now, you mentioned isopods in the PM.. any ideas reno?
im trying to get some of those snails to figure out if they are sundial snails
btw, i looked at my tank after the lights went out and i have more chitons than i can count.

isopods were chitons. when we meet again, i'd love some more if you can spare them...

 

[bill109]

Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/3162752
isopods were chitons. when we meet again, i'd love some more if you can spare them...
i thought isopods were bad?
you want more chitons? i can give you as many as you want lol
just let me know, i can pull a bunch out the night before and throw them in a jar and keep it tank temp till you get here.

 

[renogaw]

yes, isopods are bad, but what i was thinking were isopods ended up being chitons heh. so you're ok

 

[bill109]

hey reno,
let me know how those frags are doing!

i just found out, when i sold about 2-3 frags of those silver zoas, nudis went with them..

i havent seen anything else in the tank as far a zoas die off though.

 

[renogaw]

silver ones are fading fast, and the zoo from your pico hasn't opened, which is odd...but everything else is beautiful.
i did another FW dip on all of the zoos before putting them in and saw no eggs, so i'm not too worried about the nudis

 

[bill109]

Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/3164016
silver ones are fading fast, and the zoo from your pico hasn't opened, which is odd...but everything else is beautiful.
i did another FW dip on all of the zoos before putting them in and saw no eggs, so i'm not too worried about the nudis
yeah, that one polyp. i had it in my pico for about 3 days before it opened. it likes the lower light i think?
tht colony in my 90 is at the top, the polyp i gave you came from a 36 w on a 3 gallon. it was kinda shaded too. so i would throw it in the middle.
did the eclipses make it?! those have to be my favorite zoa so far.
how about the favia? anything there or is it a skelaton?
btw, aqua dreams got a ton of new zoas in. alot of green ones but if yoru lucky, you will find some green ones with yelllow centers. i got a frag for about 25 and its the brightest true green in my tank

 

[loopy101]

Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/3162618
yes, there are 8 overlapping plates, no macro shot though.
i don't think it's an asterina cause the legs are formed completely, and only 5 of them. plus it's got eyes that none of my other asterinas have. if you think it's an asterina then ok...it just doesn't look like any of the thousands i have in the tank and have seen pics of.
Hi Renogaw, you said something in this statement that caught my curiousity! i know very little about starfish. so after thinking about this for a little bit i decided to ask the silly question. what do you mean about this star fish having eyes?
thanks!

 

[renogaw]

Originally Posted by loopy101
http:///forum/post/3164184
Hi Renogaw, you said something in this statement that caught my curiousity! i know very little about starfish. so after thinking about this for a little bit i decided to ask the silly question. what do you mean about this star fish having eyes?
thanks!
some starfish have eyes around the top of their body or on their legs. usually too small to see on asterinas, but these were orange and very visable.

 

[renogaw]

Originally Posted by bill109
http:///forum/post/3164167
yeah, that one polyp. i had it in my pico for about 3 days before it opened. it likes the lower light i think?
tht colony in my 90 is at the top, the polyp i gave you came from a 36 w on a 3 gallon. it was kinda shaded too. so i would throw it in the middle.
did the eclipses make it?! those have to be my favorite zoa so far.
how about the favia? anything there or is it a skelaton?
btw, aqua dreams got a ton of new zoas in. alot of green ones but if yoru lucky, you will find some green ones with yelllow centers. i got a frag for about 25 and its the brightest true green in my tank
favia has 3 polyps left, will probably just become a frag plug.
are the eclipses the one with the orange fringe that i scraped off the rock? if so all three polyps opened.
are you going to head to their midnight madness sale tomorrow? he's giving progressively better discounts the closer to midnight that you show up.

 

[bill109]

Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/3164245
favia has 3 polyps left, will probably just become a frag plug.
are the eclipses the one with the orange fringe that i scraped off the rock? if so all three polyps opened.
are you going to head to their midnight madness sale tomorrow? he's giving progressively better discounts the closer to midnight that you show up.

yeah they are the onage ones.
hold one to those.. they go for 15-20$ a polyp..
that whole rock.. was not cheap
now tht midnight madness sale. i wonder if there is a catch.
ill be there rght at 12!
hahah do you know anything else about it?
i cant wait to grab some more of those green zoas at a dirty price from him!