???Start a Trigger Police???
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gasguzzler
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First of all, you guys need to stop sending these Bonnet pics- youre seriously killing me!
Secondly, I dont know why it wouldnt send as an e-mail, this computer is almost brand new. Ive never had a problem. Privacy service perhaps? Seriously though, nice pic, thanks for sharing.
Hey, wheres the lion tank shot? (You didnt think I forgot did you?)
Secondly, I dont know why it wouldnt send as an e-mail, this computer is almost brand new. Ive never had a problem. Privacy service perhaps? Seriously though, nice pic, thanks for sharing. Hey, wheres the lion tank shot? (You didnt think I forgot did you?)
conogre
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Nah....since I got divorced again, the the cleanin and cookin and takin care of the zoo keepin me hoppin.....pretty tough for an old gimp that can't hop!:jumping:
Besides all the fish, there's two cats, two dogs,two sugar gliders, a tarantula and whatever orphan gts brought to my door.
Oh...and every now and thenI try to remember to cook something!
That's what I mean about looking for a female fishaholic!
By the way, you think it's tough keeping tow FISH together without them killing each other, try THIS!
Besides all the fish, there's two cats, two dogs,two sugar gliders, a tarantula and whatever orphan gts brought to my door.
Oh...and every now and thenI try to remember to cook something!
That's what I mean about looking for a female fishaholic!
By the way, you think it's tough keeping tow FISH together without them killing each other, try THIS!
gasguzzler
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Well you post some amazing pics and great advice so I think your doing something right!
polarpooch
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Conogre posted:
It takes all kinds, but sometimes the problem really is that we just need more white sharks at the beach.
Now, how can I disagree with that? A real life white wolf? Unreal. AND a Rhodesian (such cool dogs...hardly ever see them here)? You must have a big place!
It takes all kinds, but sometimes the problem really is that we just need more white sharks at the beach.
Now, how can I disagree with that? A real life white wolf? Unreal. AND a Rhodesian (such cool dogs...hardly ever see them here)? You must have a big place!
conogre
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Nah...the bed gets real crowded.
You should have been here when I bottle raised the 4 cougars and 7 coati mundis at the same time AND had a hawk flying around the house thinking he was a parakeet!
And don't forget, this was while collecting my own SW fish and holding down a regular job too!!!
You should have been here when I bottle raised the 4 cougars and 7 coati mundis at the same time AND had a hawk flying around the house thinking he was a parakeet!
And don't forget, this was while collecting my own SW fish and holding down a regular job too!!!
polarpooch
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You must do wildlife rescue. Coati mundis? Are those in FLA?!!!
conogre
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LMAO!!!
No, I used to be a police officer and none of the other guys liked the snake and animal calls so I got them all!
Nowdays, everyone within 5 blocks brings me whatever is hurt or orphaned and occasionally I help out the PD if they get something strange.....I had a severe accident in '87 and now have way more time than I ever wanted!
Talk about animals!
You should have seen what I caught in Viet Nam!!!
My room-mates hated me!!! LMAO
What's a little 5' bat between friends?
As to the Coatis, a local pet shop had them and they were too mean to sell, so he ended up giving them to me to escape the liability of someone being injured.
Pretty soon I had little Coatis everywhere!!!
No, I used to be a police officer and none of the other guys liked the snake and animal calls so I got them all!
Nowdays, everyone within 5 blocks brings me whatever is hurt or orphaned and occasionally I help out the PD if they get something strange.....I had a severe accident in '87 and now have way more time than I ever wanted!
Talk about animals!
You should have seen what I caught in Viet Nam!!!
My room-mates hated me!!! LMAO
What's a little 5' bat between friends?
As to the Coatis, a local pet shop had them and they were too mean to sell, so he ended up giving them to me to escape the liability of someone being injured.
Pretty soon I had little Coatis everywhere!!!
polarpooch
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What's a little 5' bat between friends?
Exactly. How could anyone be upset by that?! Silly soliders.
....a FIVE FOOT BAT?! Are you SERIOUS?! My holy God, that's straight out of my nightmares! Was it friendly?
Well, heck...a 15' retic probably doesn't even phase YOU!
Honestly, that's awesome that you take care of these exotics that people think are so cool, and have no idea how to care for. Coatis in a pet store? You'd never see that here. I hear FLA (well, I watch Animals Cops Miami, and that's what THEY say) has some people selling some wild and exotic pets.
Exactly. How could anyone be upset by that?! Silly soliders.
....a FIVE FOOT BAT?! Are you SERIOUS?! My holy God, that's straight out of my nightmares! Was it friendly?
Well, heck...a 15' retic probably doesn't even phase YOU!
Honestly, that's awesome that you take care of these exotics that people think are so cool, and have no idea how to care for. Coatis in a pet store? You'd never see that here. I hear FLA (well, I watch Animals Cops Miami, and that's what THEY say) has some people selling some wild and exotic pets.
polarpooch
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You can get arrowanas here We had a Monkey Pox outbreak, so all the prairie dogs were removed from petstores. Some petstores in Milwaukee have some cool exotics, but not here in Madison.
We do have a store that sells spiders, millipededes, hissing cockroaches and scorpions, but thanks I'LL PASS.
Mostly we get run of the mill stuff. I saw a chincilla once in a store a couple of years ago. You'll occasionally find deumeril boas and burmese pythons--but usually it's just cornakes, milksnakes and ball pythons, hamsters, mice and gerbils.
BUT we do have two LFS here in Madison that will stock very cool stuff--and will place special orders with deposits! Their prices aren't even all that bad and the guys know their stuff (thank God).
We do have a store that sells spiders, millipededes, hissing cockroaches and scorpions, but thanks I'LL PASS.
Mostly we get run of the mill stuff. I saw a chincilla once in a store a couple of years ago. You'll occasionally find deumeril boas and burmese pythons--but usually it's just cornakes, milksnakes and ball pythons, hamsters, mice and gerbils.
BUT we do have two LFS here in Madison that will stock very cool stuff--and will place special orders with deposits! Their prices aren't even all that bad
and the guys know their stuff (thank God).
conogre
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When it comes to exotic animals, that's actually a very hotly contested topic that unfortunately has most of the information loaded on the negative side in regards to the animals themelves.
Time and again, people try to exotic pets with truly tragic results and this almost always results in negative publicity, to the point that for 95% of the population when asked "What kind of exotic animal can I get that's like a dog or a cat?" my stock answer is "a dog or a cat."
Many exotic animals may be imprinted at an early age, to make maters worse, to the point that they can also never be returned to the wild for once they have no fear of humans they are either destined to become dangerous to man or else to be horribly slaughtered when they approach a human, seeking a friend, only to be greeted by fear, terror and a mutilating or fatal attack in "self defense".
There is also one other fact and that is no matter what the laws, well intentioned people will still TRY to keep exotics meaning that , in the end, there have to be special people willing to live with the mistakes, willing to retrain them for release to the wild, or, worst case scenario, euthanize the animal if needs be, which is always sad.
As to diseases, yes, you can catch "parrot fever", a form of TB from your fish (both fresh and saltwater) and even fatal diseases, such as Nile fever are often vectored by exotic birds at first, followed by native species afterwards.
Any professional also knows that rabies can always be a hazard with mammals as the current vaccines for dogs and cats are almost always fatal to exotics, no matter what you've heard and even house cats can and do carry infections that can be hazardous if not deadly to pregnant women.
Time and again, people try to exotic pets with truly tragic results and this almost always results in negative publicity, to the point that for 95% of the population when asked "What kind of exotic animal can I get that's like a dog or a cat?" my stock answer is "a dog or a cat."
Many exotic animals may be imprinted at an early age, to make maters worse, to the point that they can also never be returned to the wild for once they have no fear of humans they are either destined to become dangerous to man or else to be horribly slaughtered when they approach a human, seeking a friend, only to be greeted by fear, terror and a mutilating or fatal attack in "self defense".
There is also one other fact and that is no matter what the laws, well intentioned people will still TRY to keep exotics meaning that , in the end, there have to be special people willing to live with the mistakes, willing to retrain them for release to the wild, or, worst case scenario, euthanize the animal if needs be, which is always sad.
As to diseases, yes, you can catch "parrot fever", a form of TB from your fish (both fresh and saltwater) and even fatal diseases, such as Nile fever are often vectored by exotic birds at first, followed by native species afterwards.
Any professional also knows that rabies can always be a hazard with mammals as the current vaccines for dogs and cats are almost always fatal to exotics, no matter what you've heard and even house cats can and do carry infections that can be hazardous if not deadly to pregnant women.
polarpooch
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I actually agree on most exotics. But I think chincillas, certain rodents, and various reptiles are perfectly appropriate for people to keep as pets.
I think people who seek them out want the "weirdest" or the "coolest" animal they can keep. I wonder how many sugar gliders have died because of someone's instant fascination that had nothing to do with their knowledge.
Same with SWF, though. Moorish idols, large sharks and blue ribbon eels still sell! (BTW, my LFS has a ZEBRA shark baby from someone's tank....a ZEBRA shark. I think they max out around 14')
I think people who seek them out want the "weirdest" or the "coolest" animal they can keep. I wonder how many sugar gliders have died because of someone's instant fascination that had nothing to do with their knowledge.
Same with SWF, though. Moorish idols, large sharks and blue ribbon eels still sell! (BTW, my LFS has a ZEBRA shark baby from someone's tank....a ZEBRA shark. I think they max out around 14')
conogre
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On the chinchilla, rodents(within reason there are some huge, vicious rodents..beaver,marmots and the SAmerican Capybara,etc.) I agree, as well as smaller reptiles that aren't endangered or require extreme care(venomous should be left to people like myself).
The people that worry me are the ones looking for the "deadliest","Most vicious" primarily, for it takes a LOT of understanding to work with exotics, and many are timebombs if not handled properly, some even then.
I HAVE two sugar gliders, by the way (Bilbo and Frodo Pouchins **grin**) and the Pres. of the American Sugar Glider Rescue is a friend.
Large sharks are ridiculous as most simply can't furnish them with proper quarters (like, say an inground swimming pool).
As to Blue ribbon eels, I've only had one but it ate like a pig and did well for almost 2 years, until I changed tanks into larger quarters and didn't have a good enough top.
I suspect that the problem here might be cyanide capture techniques (how else would one get them out of LR uninjured most of the time) with the rest as easily cared for as your ghost eel for anyone willing to spot feed the proper foods.
The people that worry me are the ones looking for the "deadliest","Most vicious" primarily, for it takes a LOT of understanding to work with exotics, and many are timebombs if not handled properly, some even then.
I HAVE two sugar gliders, by the way (Bilbo and Frodo Pouchins **grin**) and the Pres. of the American Sugar Glider Rescue is a friend.
Large sharks are ridiculous as most simply can't furnish them with proper quarters (like, say an inground swimming pool).
As to Blue ribbon eels, I've only had one but it ate like a pig and did well for almost 2 years, until I changed tanks into larger quarters and didn't have a good enough top.
I suspect that the problem here might be cyanide capture techniques (how else would one get them out of LR uninjured most of the time) with the rest as easily cared for as your ghost eel for anyone willing to spot feed the proper foods.