Starting to put together my list of fish

sparty059

sparty059

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So, I am still working on filling up the rest of the 125g tank, but I feel I'm getting to the point where I can see light at the end of the tunnel. I figure I have around 4-5 weeks until I can start purchasing fish for my QT so I want to figure out what is possible for me to do. Let me know if anything wouldn't flow well and if it won't work at all in my 125g. The specs just to remind everyone are:
 
125g DT
PC lighting at the least 130w 10,000K (2x 65w 10,000K bulbs & (I believe) 2x 35w Actinic Bulbs)
2x 1400 powerheads on each side of the tank directed into the middle
Total of 40g Sump/Refugium under the tank
And a 60g QT
 
If I'm missing anything here let me know.
 
I would like to purchase the following fish/inverts/coral:
 
2 clownfish (not sure if I want the black and white or the orange and white yet though... would I be able to get one of each? Or will they defend their territories and kill ecah other?)
 
1 Blue Hippo Tang
 
1 Snowflake Eel
 
Green Dragon Eye Zoo
 
Eagle Eye Zoo
 
Green Star Polyp
 
Rainbow Ricordea Mushroom Polyp
 
1 Blue Dot Jawfish
 
Warpaint Clown Goby
 
Eyelash Lawnmower Blenny
 
Blue Mandarin Dragonet Goby
 
Bright Yellow and Red Fountain Head Feather Dusters
 
Australian White Lighting Sponge
 
A few sea hares
 
Sand cleaning sea star
 
Bumble Bee Snails
 
That's all I have for right now... let me know if you think this might be overkill or if I need to add anything else to the tank.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/380043/starting-to-put-together-my-list-of-fish#post_3306185
So, I am still working on filling up the rest of the 125g tank, but I feel I'm getting to the point where I can see light at the end of the tunnel. I figure I have around 4-5 weeks until I can start purchasing fish for my QT so I want to figure out what is possible for me to do. Let me know if anything wouldn't flow well and if it won't work at all in my 125g. The specs just to remind everyone are:
 
125g DT
PC lighting at the least 130w 10,000K (2x 65w 10,000K bulbs & (I believe) 2x 35w Actinic Bulbs)
2x 1400 powerheads on each side of the tank directed into the middle
Total of 40g Sump/Refugium under the tank
And a 60g QT
 
If I'm missing anything here let me know.
 
I would like to purchase the following fish/inverts/coral:
 
2 clownfish (not sure if I want the black and white or the orange and white yet though... would I be able to get one of each? Or will they defend their territories and kill ecah other?) Should be ok
 
1 Blue Hippo Tang Will be okay for a little while
 
1 Snowflake Eel IDK anything about eels LOL
 
Green Dragon Eye Zoo fine
 
Eagle Eye Zoo fine
 
Green Star Polyp fine
 
Rainbow Ricordea Mushroom Polyp fine
 
1 Blue Dot Jawfish fine
 
Warpaint Clown Goby If you ever want sps corals forget this one
 
Eyelash Lawnmower Blenny ok
 
Blue Mandarin Dragonet Goby after a while
 
Bright Yellow and Red Fountain Head Feather Dusters fine
 
Australian White Lighting Sponge

 
A few sea hares NO NO NO....they need lots of algae to live and mainly starve to death in our aquariums
 
Sand cleaning sea star not for at least a year
 
Bumble Bee Snails maybe a couple
 
That's all I have for right now... let me know if you think this might be overkill or if I need to add anything else to the tank.
LOL...there....you now have my 2 cents
 
 
sparty059

sparty059

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Meowzer, in regards to the should be ok for the clownfish... are you saying if I mix the species? Or if I get 2 clownfish? I would REALLY like to get an australian clownfish, and just a true perc... would they eventually mate together and make black/orange clownfish!?!?
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Should be okay...means I have seen the black and white and orange mixed before. I believe they are ok if they are from the same "family"
 
IDK about some of the others....iffy I think
 
levinjac

levinjac

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I think they will breed I mean how would they get black and white clowns with out orange clowns
 
btldreef

btldreef

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/380043/starting-to-put-together-my-list-of-fish#post_3306185
So, I am still working on filling up the rest of the 125g tank, but I feel I'm getting to the point where I can see light at the end of the tunnel. I figure I have around 4-5 weeks until I can start purchasing fish for my QT so I want to figure out what is possible for me to do. Let me know if anything wouldn't flow well and if it won't work at all in my 125g. The specs just to remind everyone are:
 
125g DT
PC lighting at the least 130w 10,000K (2x 65w 10,000K bulbs & (I believe) 2x 35w Actinic Bulbs) PC's are going to limit what you can have as far as coral.
2x 1400 powerheads on each side of the tank directed into the middle
Total of 40g Sump/Refugium under the tank Are you aware that the refugium will also need lighting
And a 60g QT
 
If I'm missing anything here let me know.
 
I would like to purchase the following fish/inverts/coral:
 
2 clownfish (not sure if I want the black and white or the orange and white yet though... would I be able to get one of each? Or will they defend their territories and kill ecah other?) You should be fine either way. Add them at the same time. As long as the black and white and the regular orange and white are the same species (both percula) you should be fine.
 
1 Blue Hippo Tang This fish will eventually grow too large for your tank. If you purchase one, please do not purchase one under 3". Any smaller and they have a very low survival rate, especially in large tanks. Your tank would be better served with a smaller tang. Looking at your stocklist, you don't really have any other large fish so this might work. IMO, Hippo's need a 6' long tank for swimming room, something that most 125G tanks do not provide.
 
1 Snowflake Eel In my opinion, it is not wise to place this fish in a reef tank, especially with the fish you have listed. If you're set on going with this fish, note that they will eat crustations, especially shrimps, and any smaller fish that it can fit in it's mouth (your young mandarin, clowns, etc). Also, they're escape artists, so make sure you have a lid on this tank if you're intent on keeping one. IMO, eels belong in FOWLR's
 
Green Dragon Eye Zoo
 
Eagle Eye Zoo
 
Green Star Polyp
 
Rainbow Ricordea Mushroom Polyp
 
1 Blue Dot Jawfish They're jumpers, I just lost mine. I would not keep this fish with the eel. The eel will chase it and it will jump.
 
Warpaint Clown Goby color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Again, another small fish that the eel would eat. If you don't have the eel, this fish would be fine. Your lighting can't support SPS anyways.
 
Eyelash Lawnmower Blenny Okay, but wait until you have some algae growth in your tank.
 
Blue Mandarin Dragonet Goby Okay, but wait until the tank is established and your refugium is really on it's way with helping produce pods.
 
Bright Yellow and Red Fountain Head Feather Dusters
 
Australian White Lighting Sponge Very cool sponge, really hard to find except online. I'm not keen on purchasing sponges online, because there is such a risk of them being exposed to air. Are you aware of what it takes to take care of this, a lot of people do not have success.
 
A few sea hares No. Meowzer nailed this one on the head.
 
Sand cleaning sea star You would better be surved with many nassarius snails
 
Bumble Bee Snails Only a hand full
 
That's all I have for right now... let me know if you think this might be overkill or if I need to add anything else to the tank.
You need more snails. Trochus, Astrea and Nassairus would be your best bet.
All the corals you have listed are fine.
I would also X the eel get get some cleaner shrimps.
 
sparty059

sparty059

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Ok, so I won't get the eel even though I would LOVE to have him. Are there any eels that I can get that won't eat any small fish?
 
btldreef

btldreef

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Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/380043/starting-to-put-together-my-list-of-fish#post_3306258
Ok, so I won't get the eel even though I would LOVE to have him. Are there any eels that I can get that won't eat any small fish?
Honestly, no. All eels are carnivores and predatory animals. They will hunt down small fish, it's what they're built to do. If it fits in their mouth, they will eat it.
Garden eels are the only one I can think of that would be safe, but they're VERY difficult to care for and considered "Expert Only". It might be something you should think about down the line, this way you'll have more experience and all of your other fish will have gotten a chance to grow a little.
 
levinjac

levinjac

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The snow flake is the smallest eel Ive seen in captivity and even if there were a smaller eel their diet needs small fish
 
sparty059

sparty059

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Do you mean not to purcahse one NO LARGER than 3"? I'd assume I'd want to purcahse the smallest blue hippo avaiable so then it can sit in the tank until it grows to be too big... would I be able to get just a blue tang if I can't get the blue hippo or is there anything similar to it? I will pass on the eel, so I am assuming everything else is ok for the tank. Thanks for the heads up on the sponge... I read that else where that if they get air they'll choke to death pretty much.
 
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Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/380043/starting-to-put-together-my-list-of-fish#post_3306247
1 Blue Hippo Tang This fish will eventually grow too large for your tank. If you purchase one, please do not purchase one under 3". Any smaller and they have a very low survival rate, especially in large tanks. Your tank would be better served with a smaller tang. Looking at your stocklist, you don't really have any other large fish so this might work. IMO, Hippo's need a 6' long tank for swimming room, something that most 125G tanks do not provide.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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My blue hippo was the size of a quarter when I got it.....it has done fine
 
Flowers was the size of her pinky nail (LOL) hers is fine
 
we are 2 lucky ones. I have heard that the smaller ones do have a low survival rate too though
 
 
btldreef

btldreef

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/380043/starting-to-put-together-my-list-of-fish#post_3306326
Do you mean not to purcahse one NO LARGER than 3"? I'd assume I'd want to purcahse the smallest blue hippo avaiable so then it can sit in the tank until it grows to be too big... would I be able to get just a blue tang if I can't get the blue hippo or is there anything similar to it? I will pass on the eel, so I am assuming everything else is ok for the tank. Thanks for the heads up on the sponge... I read that else where that if they get air they'll choke to death pretty much.
 
NO. Hippos UNDER 3" usually do not do well. There are a few people that have success, but the large majority do not.
 
A better suited tang for your tank would be one from the Zebrosoma family (Scopus, Purple tang, Yellow Tang, Sailfin Tang) or a Kole tang.
If it must be blue, a Blue Carribean Tang (Acanthurus coeruleus) or even a Powder Blue tang would be a better option.
 
sparty059

sparty059

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Ok, no worries. This is why I asked before getting. So I'll get an alternative for the blue hippo. What other cool fish can I get? Or corals that can survive under pc lighting. Can I really get more fish or is it going to start over crowding? I notice I will have about 6 or 7 if I get all of these.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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OK...we got 2 clowns, a jawfish, and a clown goby.....
 
the LMB will come later, as will the mandarin
 
so far with the few on the 1st line you are good to go......you just have to decide what you really want, and then introduce them in the correct order.....most aggressive should be last
 
sparty059

sparty059

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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/380043/starting-to-put-together-my-list-of-fish#post_3306409
OK...we got 2 clowns, a jawfish, and a clown goby.....
 
the LMB will come later, as will the mandarin
 
so far with the few on the 1st line you are good to go......you just have to decide what you really want, and then introduce them in the correct order.....most aggressive should be last
Right. So are you saying that I shouldn't look at adding anymore fish? I'd like to have as many as I can, without making it an eye sore. I'm assuming I could have about 10 and it would look very nice and it wouldn't be a massive amount of work keeping them happy. So again with my question... what rare fish or very cool looking fish can I get? Can I get triggers?
 
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