Stingray help please.....

trueladyme

trueladyme

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HELLO< LET ME KNOW WHAT SIZE TANK YOU HAVE WHAT YOU HAVE IN IT AND WHAT YOUR WATER PEREMINTERS ARE. ALSO IF YOU HAVE A GROUND PROBE . ANY CHANCE THERE IS ELSECTRICITY BEING PUT IN THE TANK, OR WATER PEREMINTERS ARE NOT GOOD? HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAVE HIM AND WHAT SIZE IS HE. {Edit: Link violation}
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unleashed

unleashed

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I feed my ray mysis shrimp unthawed in a chunk also squid yum yums(chopped squid)frozen also thera+A anti parasitic non medicated pellet fish food made by spectrum(he loves these things(pellets in the am , meaty foods in pm.mine prefers to be hand fed I just take a chunk and stick it into the water he comes right to it if you wiggle it around the water lightly the scent wil draw him to it he is fed twice a day. pic #1 getting his attention with food,#2 ray eating #3 fat and happy #4 time for a nap.b4 every one goes crazy on tank size, Mine livesin my refuge this was the safest place for him for now in hes just a baby.I will upgrade him when hes bigger
 
calylove

calylove

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My tank is a 90 gal, water parameters are good. Im hoping he's just adjusting still. I've gotten to where he actually floated above my palm but wouldn't take. Then I tried putting food on the bottom and he actually hovered right above it sitting for atleat a full minute and then moved on. Like I said I think he is just a little nervous. I have noticed a population of bristle worms has emerged and I set out a trap this morning and caught three little ones during morning feeding. Also I do have one of those electric probes. My qustion with that is, is there a way to test that its working. Several months ago I noticed my yellow tang not looking right, so I added the probe and a small sliver of orange for him to nibble on. I also soaked his food in garlic. Three to four days and never a problem since, but I don't know what of these things was the solution. Again, is there any way to test for electricity in the tank?
 
cartman101

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unleashed, nice ray you have! What tank size you have him in?
Calylove, what is the temperature and ph in your tank and salt?
 
unleashed

unleashed

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Originally Posted by Cartman101
unleashed, nice ray you have! What tank size you have him in?
Calylove, what is the temperature and ph in your tank and salt?
thanx cartman.like stated before hes in my refuge for now till he gets large enough for a main display tank .my sump fuge set up dementions are 48x24x19 he has 12 of the 24 for now he is small maybe 4-5 inches but he has the water flow of the entire set up that is for a 120 reef he has the fuge all to himself shared with macro algae and pulsing xania frags a few snails.nothing to stress him out at all. here is a pic of the complete set up
 
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jcrim

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Originally Posted by unleashed
thanx cartman.like stated before hes in my refuge for now till he gets large enough for a main display tank .my sump fuge set up dementions are 48x24x19 he has 12 of the 24 for now he is small maybe 4-5 inches but he has the water flow of the entire set up that is for a 120 reef he has the fuge all to himself shared with macro algae and pulsing xania frags a few snails.nothing to stress him out at all. here is a pic of the complete set up

Do you really think a stingray can live in a 120 gallon reef... full of liverock???
Your stingray would be better off in your fuge (which is also grossly undersized for it)! Not a good idea.
 
unleashed

unleashed

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Originally Posted by jcrim
Do you really think a stingray can live in a 120 gallon reef... full of liverock???
Your stingray would be better off in your fuge (which is also grossly undersized for it)! Not a good idea.

for his size at this time the fuge is just fine for him and no I do not intend to keep him in my reef the reef is one of 4 other tanks I own.when hes bigger I will move him into another tank but while hes small and somewhat fragile hes in the best place possable.I also have 125 agressive 90 FOWLER and 75 gal which at this time Im using to cure LR.I do my research before I purchase any species to make sure I can meet its requirements.I also do plan on upgrading to a larger tank moving my fish around then is not a problem for me.this species is fragile I am making sure to the best of my ability that he is not harrasssed or picked at ..so please before jumping to your own conclusions as to where people plan to keep or care for their fish ask dont assume you know the answer.and as you can see from pic posted above hes huge can barely move in this tank.
 
mitzel

mitzel

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Originally Posted by NOKTURNAL1
LOOK "CALYLOVE" IT OK TO HAVE A RAY IN A 90 GALLON'S TANK. I HAVE MY RAY IN A 60 GALLON'S FOR 2 YRS AND I HAVE 250 GALLONS REEF TANK AT MY MOM'S HOUSE TOO FOR 5 YRS AND MY OTHER RAY IN IT FOR 4 YRS SO IT IS GOING TO BE OK. IS YOUR RAY OK???. OK "PEP" CALYLOVE ASK FOR HELP NOT FOR PEP TO SAY THAT THE TANK IS TOO SMALL.YES YOU CAN ENJOY HIM FOR MORE YRS. LOOK GO TO THE FISH STORE AND ASK FOR SQUID AND GIVE HIM LITTLE PIECE'S.OK "CALYLOVE" AND HAVE A GOOD DAY WITH YOUR RAY
. I KNOW THAT I WILL ENJOY MY RAY TOO IN MY 60 AND 250 GALLON'S YOU WILL TOO. IT WILL ACTUALLY STARTS EATTING DON'T BE SAD IT'S OK. "HOOO NOT EVERYONE GETS UPSET BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A RAY IN THERE TANK
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"DON'T HATE ON US".

HAD A ray been there done that .
and as for us hating we're not .We're trying to help . CALYLOVE asked for help and we are giving our opinion's . just because its not what you want to hear doesn't mean what we have to say is wrong. it is only our opinion. I'm not trying to
anybody . But in the future plaese try to remeber that we are all trying to help . so don't act like you know what is best and the rest of us are idiots.Unfortunatly not many of us are marine bioligists and we have to go on waht we know from our own experiances and our experiances are all diffrent.
and as for calylove WE would be more likely to get a better picture of whats going on if you give us all the details of your tank. the demnsions of it the actual results of a test just taken for all peramiters of the water , what is the tank set up like,What other fish you haveand how big they are , how offten your trying to feed your ray and what you are trying to feed the ray when you are doing it. what kind of lighting you have, what does the ray look like physically(is it looking too skinny does it look pale ? the more info we have the more likely we will be able to help you.
 
ophiura

ophiura

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Yes indeed....I agree. Few are critical of tank size though I believe it COULD be an issue. People are trying to solve this problem, not "hate on" anyone.

The fact is this:
The animal is not eating and obviously this is not normal. No thumbs up. :(
So therefore, we should investigate ALL possible reasons for it to be having trouble. To do this, lets cover SPECIFIC water parameters (get yourself a pat on the back if they are fine, but without listing them you may be overlooking something). Substrate type. Have you ever used copper in the tank? What are you trying to feed?
FWIW, I worked in a aquarium and personally cared for about 10 fresh and saltwater stingrays. Feeding whole squid bought from a grocery is fine. There is no problem feeding this (I did ALL THE TIME). Just clean it and cut into appropriately sized pieces. Buying frozen whole squid is A LOT cheaper and last A LOT longer than buying pieces from an LFS.
 
calylove

calylove

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I will have to retest late tonight...
Last test yesterday ph-8.0
salinty1.023
temp-78-80.
Other tank mates are one perc, one yellow tang, one green wolf eel, misc snails, crabs, one common anemone, two small coral frags, and apparently a new group of brislte worms. Everything else seems to be thriving. I have been trying to feed him every evening with thawed raw scallops. I had tried krill but he didnt take either. I have been dropping a small piece on the ground right in front of him and he actually was resting right on it. Kind of looked like he was nibling tonight but thats it. He also seems very "unmotivated" He usually swims around a lot but not so much tonight. I noticed him kind of flip out twice, like really jolt himself and then swim away. There was also two small pieces of scallop when I left that I noticed were gone when I came home that maybe he ate. Do they act real tired after eating. Im really getting worried now.
 
ophiura

ophiura

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But what about ammonia, nitrite, nitrate?
Also, what is the "goal" of this tank? It seems to have a little bit of everything, which often (not always) but often means that nothing really gets specifically what it needs to thrive. Corals tend to need very good water quality and lighting (also higher salinity) but adding predators to the tank can mean less pristine water quality. How old is the tank?
There are no issues overall with bristleworms...they are very efficient and active scavengers and are not an issue, IMO, with a healthy animal in most cases.
I think I remember you saying you DO have a ground probe in the tank?
 
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