***** Sucks! Here Is Why!

puff_puff_

Member
as far as *****! experince 1 ICH in my brackish puffer tank from a ***** fish, went back the next day and they QTed there whole fish section.. we had bad words.. but they gave me a nice store credit for my troubles.. experince 2 clown goby turned out to be zebra barbed goby, not to bad but still way off! experince 3 watchman goby hit the tile from 7 feet up, from dumb highschool girl working there.. made it home was dead by morning... expericenc 4 I HAD ENOUGH! red scooter blenny, turned out to be red stripped grub fish.. PREDITOR! got 80 snail through a friend in florida shipped up i have about 20 left. 25 blue legs and 10 scarlets, none left and one pissed of zebra goby and an angry violet goby... talked to the district manager and he offered me 25 dollar store credit! all of you Pa. vierwers watch the news tomaorw.. a good friend of mine is a newcaster. ***** will hit the TV for poor conditions, animal cruelty and false advertising... and for your needs with ***** call 1-888-824-pals and cry public news, im sure you'll get some answers after tomarow.. every fish i got from ***** i tested the bag water.. highest salinity .015 and amonia is always through the roof along with everything else.. mass produced and sold animals are never cared for properly especially when you higher kids at minimum wage to care for them to make more money.. animals are not a comodity. there living breathing creatures and should be treated there as! I hope i get some followers out of this!
 

petieaztec

Member
yeah i would go to a store that is specialized in fish. sorry to hear your story. but do a search and im sure that there is a local fish store close. it might not have this big production but at least yopu will know what you are getting. If you were from Oceanside, Ca i could tell you were i get my stuff but your in Pa......... good luck and hope your luck turns for ya.
 

puff_puff_

Member
oh no i have a wonderful fish store that is 3 blocks from my house.. made the mistake of thinking a chain new what they were doing... ***** had some fish i wanted that the local didnt.. from now on anything my local dosnt have ill order from here... its just absurd the way the flaunt there animals first policy and really its money first and with all the animal rights activists why no one has done anything yet... its a shame... a bloody shame..
 
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jdragunas

Guest
yep, they're horrible. I just bought a longnose butterfly. looked really healthy. 3 days later, he's dead, and they won't exchange him or give me store credit, not that i want store credit... i went back and they recently got a shipment of koran angels that are COVERED in ich!!! it's unblelievable how much ich is all over these fish. i refuse to shop there again for anything at all!!! not even meal worms for my chinese water dragon! :mad:
 

tx reef

Active Member
If I had a dollar for every ***** thread, I could afford that 200+ gallon reef tank I want so bad.....
Will these threads ever go away....
 

tx reef

Active Member
Originally Posted by petieaztec
if you don't like the thread then don't read it. he/she might be new here.


If someone wants to post something negative about *****, then I can post something negative about ***** threads.
If you don't like what I post, ignore it.....
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
Originally Posted by TX Reef
I someone wants to post something negative about *****, then I can post something negative about ***** threads.
If you don't like what I post, ignore it.....

Absolutely. Puff_puff has the same right to post anti-***** thread as TX reef does to post an anti-***** thread post. Freedom of speech is not permitted to one person and not the other.
 

imurnamine

Active Member
Originally Posted by TX Reef
I someone wants to post something negative about *****, then I can post something negative about ***** threads.
If you don't like what I post, ignore it.....


Haha, true, true!
 
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jdragunas

Guest
Originally Posted by lion_crazz
Absolutely. Puff_puff has the same right to post anti-***** thread as TX reef does to post an anti-***** thread post. Freedom of speech is not permitted to one person and not the other.
don't you mean "TX reef does to post an anti anti-***** thread post"?
 

puff_puff_

Member
that is the truth, i am very new here. and i really didnt no that anti-***** was such a common thing to come across or i proably wouldnt have posted.. same reason i dont post when i get a new fish or coral like others.. if you want to see some ones new fish just look there posted everywhere, i thought i might have been bringing some important information to light, like watchout you might buy a tank killing preditor with out noing cause ***** blows! sorry guys..
Jayson
 

soto

Member
Originally Posted by puff_puff_
animals are not a comodity. there living breathing creatures and should be treated there as! I hope i get some followers out of this!
sorry bro. not gonna happen from me. the following may be slightly offensive so please don't read on if you love animals dearly:
now i don't condone people going out of their way to abuse an animal because that's just a lil on the sadistic side. but i DO think it's kind've silly to take the whole 'sanctity of life' stance on animals just because they're living and breathing.
cows are living and breathing but nobody's puttin their hamburgers down in lieu of the 100,000+ that are slaughtered a day. same with chickens. what about ants? they're living and breathing. another form of life i don't see anyone trying to save are viruses, bacteria, and cockroaches. these are all life forms.
see, dennis leary was right when he said that all we're interested in doing is saving the CUTE animals. the ones that visually appease US or the ones who's affection make US happy. we try to play God by saying one is worthy of being my pet, where the other needs to be slaughtered because they're my food, and these other guys should be killed simply because they're a nuicessence. so people, in general, adopt a Nazi stance towards species outside of their own. and that's all good! but don't try to come off self like you're out there caring about animals and life and blahblahblah...
same thing with people saying they RESCUED animals from the shelter. too strong of a word there in my opinion. when the dog's in a raft that's about to go over a waterfall and you shoot it with a grappling hook & reel him back to safey- then you can say you rescued him. otherwise, picking out a pet in a cage doesn't make you a hero.
the only true animal activists out there are Buddhists. at least they do try to preserve the sanctity of life in nearly it's entirety. everyone else is just selfish and self-righteous.
 
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badtrigger

Guest
The best thing i ever got from ***** was a cleaner shrimp for the price of a peppermint shrimp. Guess thats what happens when someone from the rat department comes over to the fish department to help out.
 

ophiura

Active Member
If you do not like *****, then please do not shop there for anything
I'd like to take a different approach to this thread. ***** threads get nowhere. They just don't. But one thing I would like to do here, and this is not to bash - this is to be productive, really - is look at the responsibilities of both parties.
This may be harsh. I'm really sorry, and I am NOT flaming...definitely not my intent...just want people to think about their own actions in ANY store.
This thread in some ways bothers me pretty much to the core. Perhaps bothers me more than any other single ***** thread out there. And there have been A LOT of ***** threads out there.
My request here is to please consider PERSONAL responsibility....because if you don't, you will find issues not just at *****, but at any LFS you go to. The issues you fault them for happen every day even at specialty LFS, so there is a lesson to learn here for everyone.
There is a reason that we talk about research, education, etc, etc,etc and it will save you money and frustration if taken to heart.
Issue 1) I'll give you the ick for sure...but walk with me into any fish store in this town, and show you ick as well, and few would credit you, and few would QT anything. So that, IMO, "bing bing" for *****.

Issue 2) A clown goby is kinda hard to mistake it for something else. They are unique looking fish (quite adorable actually :happyfish ). It is *****'s fault for identifying it wrong. Yes. To the extent they marked it wrong on the tank. But did you research the fish to know what it needed and looked like?
Issue 3) I worked in an LFS. Fish jumped, but I would never sell it. And I certainly would never buy it
if I saw it happen. So that is not entirely *****'s fault either. You still purchased the fish. FWIW, I have a Master's degree in Marine Biology and was 29 years old when those fish would jump, so please, don't cast stones at the "dumb highschool girl" until you've walked in those shoes.
It is the nature of the business, and has little to do with much else.
Issue 4) The red scooter blenny has very special needs (think mandarin goby) and is also an identifiable fish. They labeled it wrong...definitely their responsibility. But did you research into what it needed or looked like?
So while it is SUPER easy to blame *****, we must also look to our own actions. Are we shopping there when there are concerns about their animal care, staff, etc? Don't buy anything! Are we doing our own research into animal needs, or assuming that we will be told the right information? If assuming, well, you know what they say about "assume"...and it will get you into trouble at ***** and many other LFS as well. The responsibility is a two way street, IMO.
***** is often no better, and no worse, than many other LFS that get away with it every day, because they are some "mom and pop" store and don't have the big name.
Fish may be treated equally poorly...the staff may be equally uneducated (BTW, as an aside...I love/hate this argument, because in the same breath people can say they have minimum wage stupid staff, but at a store that has experienced staff, people complain the prices are so high! LOL
)
Anyway, just my opinion on this. Again, not meant to bash, just to consider....
 

imurnamine

Active Member
Originally Posted by ophiura
If you do not like *****, then please do not shop there for anything
I'd like to take a different approach to this thread. ***** threads get nowhere. They just don't. But one thing I would like to do here, and this is not to bash - this is to be productive, really - is look at the responsibilities of both parties.
This may be harsh. I'm really sorry, and I am not flaming...just want people to think about their own actions in ANY store.
This thread in some ways bothers me pretty much to the core. Perhaps bothers me more than any other single ***** thread out there. And there have been A LOT of ***** threads out there.
My request here is to please consider PERSONAL responsibility....because if you don't, you will find issues not just at *****, but at any LFS you go to. The issues you fault them for happen every day even at specialty LFS, so there is a lesson to learn here for everyone.
There is a reason that we talk about research, education, etc, etc,etc and it will save you money and frustration if taken to heart.
Issue 1) I'll give you the ick for sure...but walk with me into any fish store in this town, and show you ick as well, and few would credit you, and few would QT anything. So that, IMO, "bing bing" for *****.

Issue 2) A clown goby is kinda hard to mistake it for something else. They are unique looking fish (quite adorable actually :happyfish ). It is *****'s fault for identifying it wrong. Yes. To the extent they marked it wrong on the tank. But did you research the fish to know what it needed and looked like?
Issue 3) I worked in an LFS. Fish jumped, but I would never sell it. And I certainly would never buy it
if I saw it happen. So that is not entirely *****'s fault either. You still purchased the fish. FWIW, I have a Master's degree in Marine Biology and was 29 years old when those fish would jump, so please, don't cast stones at the "dumb highschool girl" until you've walked in those shoes.
It is the nature of the business, and has little to do with much else.
Issue 4) The red scooter blenny has very special needs (think mandarin goby) and is also an identifiable fish. They labeled it wrong...definitely their responsibility. But did you research into what it needed or looked like?
So while it is SUPER easy to blame *****, we must also look to our own actions. Are we shopping there when there are concerns about their animal care, staff, etc? Don't buy anything! Are we doing our own research into animal needs, or assuming that we will be told the right information? If assuming, well, you know what they say about "assume"...and it will get you into trouble at ***** and many other LFS as well. The responsibility is a two way street, IMO.
***** is often no better, and no worse, than many other LFS that get away with it every day, because they are some "mom and pop" store and don't have the big name.
Fish may be treated equally poorly...the staff may be equally uneducated (BTW, as an aside...I love/hate this argument, because in the same breath people can say they have minimum wage stupid staff, but at a store that has experienced staff, people complain the prices are so high! LOL
)
Anyway, just my opinion on this. Again, not meant to bash, just to consider....


Wow, really well put.
You have a way with words, haha.
 
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