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burrito

burrito

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hia i got a 60 gal tank and would like to know how much gal i need for a Refugium :3 im making one ^^ but i need to know how much gal for a Refugium do i need for my 60 gal tank
 
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jstdv8

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Rule #1 sqays the more water volume the better. if you had a 60 gallon tank with a 55g sump/refugium you would be sitting good. All depends on what you have room for of course.
even a 10g sump/refugium could be made to work. anything is better than nothing.
I'd say being that you are pretty new, I'd read up on how they work and what happens in the event of a power outage before i got too crazy with actually building one.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Ok on a FYI note. The term Refugia was first coined by Dr. Walter Adey of the Smithsonian institute to describe a body of water separate but connected to the main DT where plants and animals can develop without fear of other predators
 
posiden

posiden

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Originally Posted by florida joe http:///forum/thread/381742/refugium#post_3327027
Ok on a FYI note. The term Refugia was first coined by Dr. Walter Adey of the Smithsonian institute to describe a body of water separate but connected to the main DT where plants and animals can develop without fear of other predators
Just asking,
Where did this info come from? Cause I too have read this however....I have read that another came up with it and it was in reference to birds. Refugia is referenced to other things besides aquaria.
 
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jstdv8

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Thanks for the history lesson Joe!
Now back to Burrito and his question :p
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by Posiden http:///forum/thread/381742/refugium#post_3327112
Just asking,
Where did this info come from? Cause I too have read this however....I have read that another came up with it and it was in reference to birds. Refugia is referenced to other things besides aquaria.
The Reef Aquarium by Delbeek and Sprung and Dynamic Aquaria by Dr. Walter Adey and Dana Riddle.
 
burrito

burrito

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._. lol new question for Refugium what type of algae is good for a Refugium becuase i might put some in the sand of the Refugium and the other side of the Refugium i will put about 10 lb of live rock (sound good?) and maybe 1 coral :3 and btw what type of light is good for a Refugium? and how many k and how many watts
 
posiden

posiden

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Originally Posted by florida joe http:///forum/thread/381742/refugium#post_3327195
The Reef Aquarium by Delbeek and Sprung and Dynamic Aquaria by Dr. Walter Adey and Dana Riddle.
Dynamic Aquaria I have read. The first and the third edition. I don't recall him saying he coined the term?
The Reef Aquarium, I have not had a chance to read. So I can not say.
In the end its not important. Thank you for replying though. It just interesting how Refugia refers to more then just our tanks.
Burrito,
Pick your poison on the algae. They all are good and do the job. Some come at a higher risk then others. Some need to be in the sand and other don't. As for lighting, A simple CF bulb will do just fine. The kind you get at the home improvement store. The twist style bulbs. Just get the natural daylight and you'll be fine. The 13 or the 23 watt should work.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Posiden http:///forum/thread/381742/refugium#post_3327415
Dynamic Aquaria I have read. The first and the third edition. I don't recall him saying he coined the term?
The Reef Aquarium, I have not had a chance to read. So I can not say.
In the end its not important. Thank you for replying though. It just interesting how Refugia refers to more then just our tanks.
Burrito,
Pick your poison on the algae. They all are good and do the job. Some come at a higher risk then others. Some need to be in the sand and other don't. As for lighting, A simple CF bulb will do just fine. The kind you get at the home improvement store. The twist style bulbs. Just get the natural daylight and you'll be fine. The 13 or the 23 watt should work.
Page 288 of The Reef Aquarium by Delbeek and Sprung
REFUGIA
“Dr. Walter Adey of the Smithsonian institution first used the term Refugia to describe bodies of water separate from the main display but connected where populations of organisms (plants or animals can develop freely without being preyed upon by fishes (Ady, 1983). The term also applies to places within the tank where these organisms may develop without being consumed directly by the fishes, such as within a stack of rocks or in the sand substrate …………….”
I will dig out my copy of Dynamic Aquaria and add to this post tomorrow
 
posiden

posiden

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Quote:
Originally Posted by florida joe http:///forum/thread/381742/refugium#post_3327438
Page 288 of The Reef Aquarium by Delbeek and Sprung
REFUGIA
“Dr. Walter Adey of the Smithsonian institution first used the term Refugia to describe bodies of water separate from the main display but connected where populations of organisms (plants or animals can develop freely without being preyed upon by fishes (Ady, 1983). The term also applies to places within the tank where these organisms may develop without being consumed directly by the fishes, such as within a stack of rocks or in the sand substrate …………….”
I will dig out my copy of Dynamic Aquaria and add to this post tomorrow
That's too cool. Thank you Joe.
I look forward to your post.
Cheers,
Posiden.
 
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jstdv8

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man, i wish i had a cool Julian Sprung book that I could quote from.
Curse you joe!
:)
 
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jstdv8

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WTF? You actually know the guy? That's just unfair.
No wonder you know so much :)
I went do Disney world once, does that count?
 
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