SWF.com chain

[stumpyfish]

Does anyone else think that Saltaterfish.com should have its own chain of retail stores? Wouldnt that be cool, to have a store with a lounge for discussion where everyone can chat and meet and greet and everything. I'd rather shop in a place like that than any *****, petsmart and most LFS's.

 

[17cuddlefish]

yeah that would be great. Another plus of that would be it would be such a relief walking into a chain fish store and not seeing a blue hippo tang in a 20 gallon long. I almost cringe when I walk into the fish section at *****.

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by stumpyfish
http:///forum/post/2479700
Does anyone else think that Saltaterfish.com should have its own chain of retail stores? Wouldnt that be cool, to have a store with a lounge for discussion where everyone can chat and meet and greet and everything. I'd rather shop in a place like that than any *****, petsmart and most LFS's.
That would be nice.

 

[anadliv]

After reading this I had to tell everyone about the time I went to ***** and they had a beautiful bat fish in about a 20L. It was the most sad thing ever, this fish was taller than the space between the rocks and water surface.

 

[aquaknight]

Originally Posted by 17cuddlefish
http:///forum/post/2479872
yeah that would be great. Another plus of that would be it would be such a relief walking into a chain fish store and not seeing a blue hippo tang in a 20 gallon long. I almost cringe when I walk into the fish section at *****.
***** has display tanks? Just wondering because if you think SWF's holding tanks that the tangs are in are bigger then a 20gal, you definitely have another thing coming....

 

[mx#28]

Originally Posted by 17cuddlefish
http:///forum/post/2479872
yeah that would be great. Another plus of that would be it would be such a relief walking into a chain fish store and not seeing a blue hippo tang in a 20 gallon long. I almost cringe when I walk into the fish section at *****.
Are you sure the SWF tanks are any larger?

 

[sigmachris]

Originally Posted by stumpyfish
http:///forum/post/2479700
Does anyone else think that Saltaterfish.com should have its own chain of retail stores? Wouldnt that be cool, to have a store with a lounge for discussion where everyone can chat and meet and greet and everything. I'd rather shop in a place like that than any *****, petsmart and most LFS's.
Put a coffee shop in there for the chat room and it would be like Starbucks mutated with SWF.com.

 

[sharkbait9]

Originally Posted by MX#28
http:///forum/post/2480235
Are you sure the SWF tanks are any larger?
no wholesaler is wasting the space on large tanks or displays, at least none that I have been in. Maybe in the front or office space.
The fish don't stay long in the wholesalers tanks to begin with. The longer those fish stay the less money the wholesalers make. Then they have to fax out “move out specials” like four med blue tangs for 25.00 or buy six get 6 free.
Their are a couple of wholesalers in the tri state area that I have been in and they are huge packed with rows of holding tank with lights hanging down and a shipping corner, that’s it.
don't kid your self and think that SWF.com is any different.
It’s the same principle with pet stores, they are temporary hold tank before the fish reaches it permanent home.
Some people can not understand that and think you can keep big fish in a ten gallon tank.

 

[sharkbait9]

Originally Posted by stumpyfish
http:///forum/post/2479700
Does anyone else think that Saltaterfish.com should have its own chain of retail stores? Wouldnt that be cool, to have a store with a lounge for discussion where everyone can chat and meet and greet and everything. I'd rather shop in a place like that than any *****, petsmart and most LFS's.
SWF.com stores would be like any other chain, ***** petsmart. It comes down to the mighty dollar. Employees, retail store rent and all the other bills that coincide with retail. As long as the owner/stock owners are making money who cares, the product can suffer but “my business suits cost a thousand dollars and my wife’s fake boobs and lips cost me thousands too, bare necessities for the stock just move it out.
If they ran a retail chain like this web site they would be out of buisness in not time, you need stock to sell not a wish list for walk in customers to sign.
So maybe a coffee shop would not be a bad idea, at least some time of income.

 

[lion_crazz]

Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2486340
Some people can not understand that and think you can keep big fish in a ten gallon tank.
This is my biggest problem with some people. They see it done at an LFS and take that as an "well, if they can do it in their 20 gallon tank, so can I."
They do not understand that most fish are only at an LFS for 1-2 weeks at the most.
The same goes for corals. "Oh, well, they have their corals under fluorescent or low watt PC's, so can I."

 

[fisharefishy99]

Originally Posted by lion_crazz
http:///forum/post/2486347
This is my biggest problem with some people. They see it done at an LFS and take that as an "well, if they can do it in their 20 gallon tank, so can I."
They do not understand that most fish are only at an LFS for 1-2 weeks at the most.
The same goes for corals. "Oh, well, they have their corals under fluorescent or low watt PC's, so can I."
I learned from past mistakes when I first started out when I went to a fish store and a guy told me that they had a yellow tang in a 20 gallon so it would definately fit in my 37. NEVER went back there again. When it died 6 months later, they blamed my water quality and wouldn't sell me another fish till I brought in a sample even though I had a brand new test kit that tested just about everything and everything was fine.
Although for the coral part, I never knew about that. I thought if you didn't have good enough lighting for them even for a few days they would die or look terrible.

 

[fisharefishy99]

Luckily they refused to sell me another fish since I found a MUCH better petstore than that and they explained to me why tangs don't belong in my tank very nicely =)

 

[aquatica-tech]

Send a store here in Orlando, Florida. We really need a PROFESSIONAL lfs over here

 

[al mc]

Problem is if they were to do it the 'right way' as we would all like with the tangs for sale in large tanks great lighting for the corals...etc.. They would have to charge 2-3x what on line retailers/wholesalers are charging and people would all go in there to chat, admire the fish and drink coffee..then buy fish on line for 1/3 the cost.

 

[sharkbait9]

Originally Posted by Al Mc
http:///forum/post/2486777
Problem is if they were to do it the 'right way' as we would all like with the tangs for sale in large tanks great lighting for the corals...etc.. They would have to charge 2-3x what on line retailers/wholesalers are charging and people would all go in there to chat, admire the fish and drink coffee..then buy fish on line for 1/3 the cost.
I think for fish, yeah they would have to have bigger tanks to hold them. Coral tanks and light not really any different. Some wholesalers have rows of t-5 lights and some had big monster Mh lights over the tanks.
The cost would come from the aesthetics of it all. Instead of raw steel racks to hold the tanks that are all rusty and crappy looking it would have to nice wood and all the other comforts that make people go “ooh, ahh”
The lights they buy straight from the manufacture, so the cost is none like a home owners.
Plus the holding tanks and vats are bare bottom flush systems, water goes in water goes out. No power heads or anything that we hobbyist are accustom to, bare essentials that’s it, move’em in move’em out.
Then the wholesaler would have to worry about the other business threaten to find a new wholesaler because they sell to the public even at a mark up the other LFS would be bent on the idea, so the threat of loosing money won’t happen.

 

[aninafish]

I beg to differ. When I lived in Cedar Rapids Iowa the only fish store was the ***** and they were the worst ***** I have seen. Luckly a new store opened called The Fish Store. There they had their tangs and larger fish in 55 and 75 gal and their corals AND lr had HQI lighting. They also had a shark and ray pool which was an actual pool. It seems if you show the equipment the store uses they are more likely to sell the more expensive stuff. It makes sense, if you want to sell the expensive equipment then you should show it in use. The place was always packed.
They were a little higher priced then ***** but they actually had a 2 week guarentee on the fish. They questioned the customers what equipment and tank size they had before they sold them the fish. Also to add to your idea SigmaChris upstairs they had a soda/coffee bar and a huge library if aquira and fish books and mags. They also did classes and school trips for safe reef keeping and evironmental issues.
Its was open for 2 years and then close to the city could expand the mall... It sucked

 

[sharkbait9]

Originally Posted by ANinaFish
http:///forum/post/2487875
I beg to differ. When I lived in Cedar Rapids Iowa the only fish store was the ***** and they were the worst ***** I have seen. Luckly a new store opened called The Fish Store. There they had their tangs and larger fish in 55 and 75 gal and their corals AND lr had HQI lighting. They also had a shark and ray pool which was an actual pool. It seems if you show the equipment the store uses they are more likely to sell the more expensive stuff. It makes sense, if you want to sell the expensive equipment then you should show it in use. The place was always packed.
They were a little higher priced then ***** but they actually had a 2 week guarentee on the fish. They questioned the customers what equipment and tank size they had before they sold them the fish. Also to add to your idea SigmaChris upstairs they had a soda/coffee bar and a huge library if aquira and fish books and mags. They also did classes and school trips for safe reef keeping and evironmental issues.
Its was open for 2 years and then close to the city could expand the mall... It sucked
Ok so your talking about one "mom and pop" store in a market filled with chain stores. Everyone knows that chain pet stores sux the big one. Maybe one out of every 20 has staff that knows what they are talking about, but in gneral pet chains stink on ice.
On a store chain most likely would not work. Mom and pop are involved its thier money maker and pays the bills, so they want to know whats going on and what customers think.
The money is made on the come back. Today people are more money conciouse then ever before, if the customer gets the shaft then they don't come back.
It sounds like the store sold out to the mall/city then the city shuting them down.