yearofthenick
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Who would you vote for? Obama or McCain?
This is a private vote.
Discuss your stance if you feel comfortable.
This is a private vote.
Discuss your stance if you feel comfortable.
SWF.com Forum Vote: Obama or McCain?
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dogfaceman
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OBama
socal57che
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Sorry, didn't vote. May not vote come November either.
yearofthenick
Active Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2725196
Sorry, didn't vote. May not vote come November either.
Can't decide the lesser of two evils? I feel similarly. Thank God for Canada if things go feet up.
http:///forum/post/2725196
Sorry, didn't vote. May not vote come November either.
Can't decide the lesser of two evils? I feel similarly. Thank God for Canada if things go feet up.
socal57che
Active Member
Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/2725201
Can't decide the lesser of two evils? I feel similarly. Thank God for Canada if things go feet up.
Canada? Certaily wouldn't want to live in that dreadful place. Visited Canada a couple times though, eh.
No matter who wins, we lose. Get it over with and vote next time.
http:///forum/post/2725201
Can't decide the lesser of two evils? I feel similarly. Thank God for Canada if things go feet up.
Canada? Certaily wouldn't want to live in that dreadful place. Visited Canada a couple times though, eh.
No matter who wins, we lose. Get it over with and vote next time.
mimzy
Active Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2725196
Sorry, didn't vote. May not vote come November either.
here here.
http:///forum/post/2725196
Sorry, didn't vote. May not vote come November either.
here here.
socal57che
Active Member
Originally Posted by Mimzy
http:///forum/post/2725215
here here.
Well, I never did like McCain much and don't trust Obama AT ALL so I'll just deal with the dork you kids elect and keep my mouth shut for 4 years. By then a viable candidate is bound to emerge. (I hope)
http:///forum/post/2725215
here here.
Well, I never did like McCain much and don't trust Obama AT ALL so I'll just deal with the dork you kids elect and keep my mouth shut for 4 years. By then a viable candidate is bound to emerge. (I hope)
mimzy
Active Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2725219
Well, I never did like McCain much and don't trust Obama AT ALL so I'll just deal with the dork you kids elect and keep my mouth shut for 4 years. By then a viable candidate is bound to emerge. (I hope)
us kids? and how old are you, a billion? neither of them are a product of ANYTHING I've ever had a hand in. I was agreeing with you on the not voting thing.
voting isn't worth much to me when it means having to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.
http:///forum/post/2725219
Well, I never did like McCain much and don't trust Obama AT ALL so I'll just deal with the dork you kids elect and keep my mouth shut for 4 years. By then a viable candidate is bound to emerge. (I hope)
us kids? and how old are you, a billion? neither of them are a product of ANYTHING I've ever had a hand in. I was agreeing with you on the not voting thing.
voting isn't worth much to me when it means having to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.
socal57che
Active Member
Originally Posted by Mimzy
http:///forum/post/2725222
us kids? and how old are you, a billion? neither of them are a product of ANYTHING I've ever had a hand in. I was agreeing with you on the not voting thing.
Well, I'm older than you are, but younger than dirt. (most dirt, anyway)
Originally Posted by Mimzy
http:///forum/post/2725222
voting isn't worth much to me when it means having to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.
I so missed your input while you were gone.
mimzy
Active Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2725225
Well, I'm older than you are, but younger than dirt. (most dirt, anyway
I so missed your input while you were gone.
socal57che
Active Member
Originally Posted by Mimzy
http:///forum/post/2725229
How did your parents like your hair?
And the ink?
Originally Posted by Mimzy
http:///forum/post/2725234
so... I went "home" on Thursday and literally got 2hours sleep the night before b/c I was SO. NERVOUS. about my folks' reaction to my hair...
so I walk in the front door and brace myself as my Mom walks in2 the kitchen....
"I LOVE IT!! OMG, can you do that to MY hair??"
...and she was serious.
WHO KNEW???????
and no... they don't know about the tattoo.
(sorry Socal - didn't want 2hijack the voting thread)
I don't see this thread going anywhere anyway.
Hijack over.
http:///forum/post/2725229
How did your parents like your hair?
And the ink?
Originally Posted by Mimzy
http:///forum/post/2725234
so... I went "home" on Thursday and literally got 2hours sleep the night before b/c I was SO. NERVOUS. about my folks' reaction to my hair...
so I walk in the front door and brace myself as my Mom walks in2 the kitchen....
"I LOVE IT!! OMG, can you do that to MY hair??"
...and she was serious.
WHO KNEW???????
and no... they don't know about the tattoo.
(sorry Socal - didn't want 2hijack the voting thread)
I don't see this thread going anywhere anyway.
Hijack over.
lovethesea
Active Member
I don't think this country is ready for a black president. Most folks who have a brain, don't see race, color or creed, but we are talking about the US here and many many MANY people who can vote only see race,color or creed.
Personally I don't care what they are as long as they can get us out of this mess.
I do feel Obama is not ready.......no matter his color. Although he does bring a feeling of clean air.....I just don't think he can pay for his promises.
McCain not too great either...............oh the typical US delima.
We have several Canadian friends......their economy has also suffered from our banking mess. They too are very courious about the outcome.
Personally I don't care what they are as long as they can get us out of this mess.
I do feel Obama is not ready.......no matter his color. Although he does bring a feeling of clean air.....I just don't think he can pay for his promises.
McCain not too great either...............oh the typical US delima.
We have several Canadian friends......their economy has also suffered from our banking mess. They too are very courious about the outcome.
yearofthenick
Active Member
What sparked me to start this thread was because of Rick Warren's interviewing the two candidates on Fox tonight. I was genuinely surprised at the answers they gave.
If there's one thing I like about McCain, it's that you rarely have to guess what he's going to do, because he is very clear about what he believes and what he wants to do as president.
Obama is much less decisive... it came across very clearly in the interview that he was dancing around certain topics, like abortion - when asked, he said the decision was above his pay rate - what the hell?
Obama is very relational and easy to like. But although it's sweet that he chooses his mother and initially his pastor as a role model, I don't know if I'd want those kinds of people whispering in the Presidents ear.
Also, it's a huge problem that we're giving $700B/yr to foreign countries for oil. McCain answer is by offshore drilling and pushing hard for alternate fuels like hydrogen/etc. and he even shows his drive by doing that competition for new battery prototypes. Obama tells us to over-inflate our tires. Again, I say - what the Hell? Inflate tires? And he doesn't really have anything else to say about it except for flowery words like "I believe that the american people can work together to solve this crisis." Boy that's nice to hear, and makes me feel like warm cookies inside, but it doesn't change the fact that we need to be LED.
I agree that Obama would bring a new dynamic to the oval office, but also think now is not the time for us to let a newbie "play president" in times like these.
I think who each candidate chooses to be the VP will really determine my vote. As of right now though, I'm voting McCain. At least I know what I'm getting.
If there's one thing I like about McCain, it's that you rarely have to guess what he's going to do, because he is very clear about what he believes and what he wants to do as president.
Obama is much less decisive... it came across very clearly in the interview that he was dancing around certain topics, like abortion - when asked, he said the decision was above his pay rate - what the hell?
Obama is very relational and easy to like. But although it's sweet that he chooses his mother and initially his pastor as a role model, I don't know if I'd want those kinds of people whispering in the Presidents ear.
Also, it's a huge problem that we're giving $700B/yr to foreign countries for oil. McCain answer is by offshore drilling and pushing hard for alternate fuels like hydrogen/etc. and he even shows his drive by doing that competition for new battery prototypes. Obama tells us to over-inflate our tires. Again, I say - what the Hell? Inflate tires? And he doesn't really have anything else to say about it except for flowery words like "I believe that the american people can work together to solve this crisis." Boy that's nice to hear, and makes me feel like warm cookies inside, but it doesn't change the fact that we need to be LED.
I agree that Obama would bring a new dynamic to the oval office, but also think now is not the time for us to let a newbie "play president" in times like these.
I think who each candidate chooses to be the VP will really determine my vote. As of right now though, I'm voting McCain. At least I know what I'm getting.
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by lovethesea
http:///forum/post/2725244
I don't think this country is ready for a black president. Most folks who have a brain, don't see race, color or creed, but we are talking about the US here and many many MANY people who can vote only see race,color or creed.
Personally I don't care what they are as long as they can get us out of this mess.
I do feel Obama is not ready.......no matter his color. Although he does bring a feeling of clean air.....I just don't think he can pay for his promises.
McCain not too great either...............oh the typical US delima.
We have several Canadian friends......their economy has also suffered from our banking mess. They too are very courious about the outcome.
I think the country is ready for a black president. Just certain people aren't and they become more irrelavent all the time. . People have been acceping of Powell and Rice in their roles.
I always thought the first black president would have to come from the Republican party. Democrats already get 90 percent or so of the black vote so they really don't gain anything by putting up a black candidate. And there are a whole lot more dems who wont vote for a black candidate than they would like to admitt. You really think all those no Hillary no way folks oppose Obama because they think she got cheated or something
I've met just as many democrat biggots as republican in my day.
http:///forum/post/2725244
I don't think this country is ready for a black president. Most folks who have a brain, don't see race, color or creed, but we are talking about the US here and many many MANY people who can vote only see race,color or creed.
Personally I don't care what they are as long as they can get us out of this mess.
I do feel Obama is not ready.......no matter his color. Although he does bring a feeling of clean air.....I just don't think he can pay for his promises.
McCain not too great either...............oh the typical US delima.
We have several Canadian friends......their economy has also suffered from our banking mess. They too are very courious about the outcome.
I think the country is ready for a black president. Just certain people aren't and they become more irrelavent all the time. . People have been acceping of Powell and Rice in their roles.
I always thought the first black president would have to come from the Republican party. Democrats already get 90 percent or so of the black vote so they really don't gain anything by putting up a black candidate. And there are a whole lot more dems who wont vote for a black candidate than they would like to admitt. You really think all those no Hillary no way folks oppose Obama because they think she got cheated or something
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/2725247
What sparked me to start this thread was because of Rick Warren's interviewing the two candidates on Fox tonight. I was genuinely surprised at the answers they gave.
If there's one thing I like about McCain, it's that you rarely have to guess what he's going to do, because he is very clear about what he believes and what he wants to do as president.
Obama is much less decisive... it came across very clearly in the interview that he was dancing around certain topics, like abortion - when asked, he said the decision was above his pay rate - what the hell?
Obama is very relational and easy to like. But although it's sweet that he chooses his mother and initially his pastor as a role model, I don't know if I'd want those kinds of people whispering in the Presidents ear.
Also, it's a huge problem that we're giving $700B/yr to foreign countries for oil. McCain answer is by offshore drilling and pushing hard for alternate fuels like hydrogen/etc. and he even shows his drive by doing that competition for new battery prototypes. Obama tells us to over-inflate our tires. Again, I say - what the Hell? Inflate tires? And he doesn't really have anything else to say about it except for flowery words like "I believe that the american people can work together to solve this crisis." Boy that's nice to hear, and makes me feel like warm cookies inside, but it doesn't change the fact that we need to be LED.
I agree that Obama would bring a new dynamic to the oval office, but also think now is not the time for us to let a newbie "play president" in times like these.
I think who each candidate chooses to be the VP will really determine my vote. As of right now though, I'm voting McCain. At least I know what I'm getting.
That was a cool format. I only switched on about half way through so I can't really say how Obama did but it sounds like he gave his standard non specific answers for the most part so he can claim that isn't what he really meant.
http:///forum/post/2725247
What sparked me to start this thread was because of Rick Warren's interviewing the two candidates on Fox tonight. I was genuinely surprised at the answers they gave.
If there's one thing I like about McCain, it's that you rarely have to guess what he's going to do, because he is very clear about what he believes and what he wants to do as president.
Obama is much less decisive... it came across very clearly in the interview that he was dancing around certain topics, like abortion - when asked, he said the decision was above his pay rate - what the hell?
Obama is very relational and easy to like. But although it's sweet that he chooses his mother and initially his pastor as a role model, I don't know if I'd want those kinds of people whispering in the Presidents ear.
Also, it's a huge problem that we're giving $700B/yr to foreign countries for oil. McCain answer is by offshore drilling and pushing hard for alternate fuels like hydrogen/etc. and he even shows his drive by doing that competition for new battery prototypes. Obama tells us to over-inflate our tires. Again, I say - what the Hell? Inflate tires? And he doesn't really have anything else to say about it except for flowery words like "I believe that the american people can work together to solve this crisis." Boy that's nice to hear, and makes me feel like warm cookies inside, but it doesn't change the fact that we need to be LED.
I agree that Obama would bring a new dynamic to the oval office, but also think now is not the time for us to let a newbie "play president" in times like these.
I think who each candidate chooses to be the VP will really determine my vote. As of right now though, I'm voting McCain. At least I know what I'm getting.
That was a cool format. I only switched on about half way through so I can't really say how Obama did but it sounds like he gave his standard non specific answers for the most part so he can claim that isn't what he really meant.
dogfaceman
Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2725219
Well, I never did like McCain much and don't trust Obama AT ALL so I'll just deal with the dork you kids elect and keep my mouth shut for 4 years. By then a viable candidate is bound to emerge. (I hope)
I thought if the dems could of got just an average guy, they would have been a shoe in. but no we had to pick between a woman or a black person(not being racist i just believe many people wont vote for a black person) but worse this guy is all about change(too much).
http:///forum/post/2725219
Well, I never did like McCain much and don't trust Obama AT ALL so I'll just deal with the dork you kids elect and keep my mouth shut for 4 years. By then a viable candidate is bound to emerge. (I hope)
I thought if the dems could of got just an average guy, they would have been a shoe in. but no we had to pick between a woman or a black person(not being racist i just believe many people wont vote for a black person) but worse this guy is all about change(too much).
mgatdog
Member
Originally Posted by Mimzy
http:///forum/post/2725222
I was agreeing with you on the not voting thing.
voting isn't worth much to me when it means having to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.
I agree . It's sad we have a great country but giant douche and a turd sandwich to pick from you call it right there.
http:///forum/post/2725222
I was agreeing with you on the not voting thing.
voting isn't worth much to me when it means having to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.
I agree . It's sad we have a great country but giant douche and a turd sandwich to pick from you call it right there.
miaheatlvr
Active Member
Have been done over and over again! Why just not do a search or revive that one?
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/318529/poll-who-do-you-plan-on-voting-for
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/318529/poll-who-do-you-plan-on-voting-for
jaymz
Member
When was the last time there was an election were there wasnt a large group of people saying "either im not going to vote or Im going to vote for the lesser of 2 evils."
The next time you feel like this is the person I want leading my country there will be a bunch of people saying He/She's ok.
Its a popularity contest no matter which way you slice it. There ideas have little to do with it.
Do you prefer a young upstart mixed ethnic claiming bold new ideas
or
Do you prefer an older experience steady man that will not change much with the current program. Unless of course he is told to.
Either way, we are not doomed we are not better off, its all the same. Thats what makes democracy work, the So called leader doesnt have the power to really change things that drastically. You could put a 10 year old in office and he would do no better or worse then any of the presidents of the last 2 decades. They do what they are told by there partys, they never take a real stand on anything, and they toss the people a bone every once in a while to keep us from getting really upset.
There hasnt been a powerful leader in this country since FDR. then before he left he decided to say there will never be anyone like me again I will change the constitution to make sure of it. And we have had Nixon, Carter, reagan, bush, clinton, bush... whoopty dooo,
The problem is in order to make a truly great desicion in a country like this you will have to upset the majority of your citizens. because you have put them at risk, they dont sleep as comfortably. But when that decision is the right one and comes to fruition you will become immortalized as one of the greatest ever. This could of been bush but he stumbled too much. He is not strong, he stuttered his way thru office. Stuttering is a sign on lacking confidence.
Either that or he forgot his lines.
The next time you feel like this is the person I want leading my country there will be a bunch of people saying He/She's ok.
Its a popularity contest no matter which way you slice it. There ideas have little to do with it.
Do you prefer a young upstart mixed ethnic claiming bold new ideas
or
Do you prefer an older experience steady man that will not change much with the current program. Unless of course he is told to.
Either way, we are not doomed we are not better off, its all the same. Thats what makes democracy work, the So called leader doesnt have the power to really change things that drastically. You could put a 10 year old in office and he would do no better or worse then any of the presidents of the last 2 decades. They do what they are told by there partys, they never take a real stand on anything, and they toss the people a bone every once in a while to keep us from getting really upset.
There hasnt been a powerful leader in this country since FDR. then before he left he decided to say there will never be anyone like me again I will change the constitution to make sure of it. And we have had Nixon, Carter, reagan, bush, clinton, bush... whoopty dooo,
The problem is in order to make a truly great desicion in a country like this you will have to upset the majority of your citizens. because you have put them at risk, they dont sleep as comfortably. But when that decision is the right one and comes to fruition you will become immortalized as one of the greatest ever. This could of been bush but he stumbled too much. He is not strong, he stuttered his way thru office. Stuttering is a sign on lacking confidence.
Either that or he forgot his lines.
1journeyman
Active Member
That is simply not true.
The President sets the tone and direction of Washington; from the Supreme Court to foreign policy.
Look at the difference in the way President Clinton and President Bush handled the war on terrorism, for instance. That's just one in 10,000 different examples.
The President sets the tone and direction of Washington; from the Supreme Court to foreign policy.
Look at the difference in the way President Clinton and President Bush handled the war on terrorism, for instance. That's just one in 10,000 different examples.