switching salts?

monalisa

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Is this an okay idea? I've been using Instant Ocean since starting my tank. I was at the lfs today to pick up salt and noticed that they had Oceanic, and I thought I remembered from a post here that Oceanic is a great salt for helping to build calcium a bit. My calcium is pretty low (about 320), so I bought some. Is there anything that I need to know about switching out like this?
Thanks for any help.
Lisa :happyfish
 

monalisa

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Like how slowly? I do about a 5-10% water change weekly. Should I spread that out a bit to 1 1/2 - 2 weeks? I certainly don't want to do anything to harm my system.
Thank you!!
Lisa :happyfish
 

fishieness

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i wouldnt use oceanic unless it is a small thing. i got a big 50 gallon one cause i thought it was a good hting. my Ca never went below 650, although most of the time it was higher..... i jsut got a thing of coralife this week. hopefully that will be better. oceanic wasnt right for my system.
i dont think that switching will have that much of an effect at all unless you are doing HUGE water changes. 5-10 percent weekly is fine IMO.
 

monalisa

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My tank is only 37g. I've been thinking of switching to Oceanic for a while, and I just decided that this would be the time to do it. Great then, I'll stick with my 5-10% changes/week. I'll also be closely monitoring my calcium levels to give me a cue as to when I need to switch back again. We'll see.
Thanks again.
Lisa :happyfish
 

mudplayerx

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I'd definately take it slow Mona. No more than 5% weekly as was said. I've heard nasty things can happen if you change salts so do some searches on google.
I would just stick with the Instant Ocean and dose kalkwasser every now and again. Its more work but its fun to say "I dose kalkwasser" lol. Just kidding, I like the kalkwasser because it keeps the alkalinity and ph stable too :)
 

monalisa

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Actually Mud,
I have the Kalkwasser supplements on hand. I've just been a little reluctant to use them. So do you think it would be safer to dose with that and stick with my Instant Ocean? That's not a problem, I'll just take the salt I bought today back to the shop.
How long after supplementing with Kalkwasser will it take to see a climb in my calcium? I'll trust your opinion and just stick with my salt and go with the kalk...another credit run to my lfs, but oh well.
Thanks,
Lisa :happyfish
 

mudplayerx

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I really don't think you are in much danger switching salts if you keep the initial water changes small, but I'd still dose kalkwasser instead.
The rise in calcium happens within 24 hours. What I do is take a gallon jug of distilled water and mix the kalkwasser in it. Shake it up really well and let it sit undisturbed for 24 hours. This mix is good for about a week if you want to store it.
Here is how I dose it. Since I have a 55 gallon with mh lights, about a gallon of water evaporates per day. I just add the kalkwasser as topoff. I place a piece of plywood on my tank and then set the jug on there with the cap off (a little bit of the jug hanging over the edge of the plywood). Then I poke a hole in the jug where its hanging over (with a saftey pin) and let it slowly leak out.
It takes about an hour or two to empty, but slow is good when dosing.
If I recall you have a slightly smaller tank...like 29 or 37 gallon, right? You probably can't dose the entire gallon jug all at once so you need to either only mix the amount you need, or stick around to watch it. If you want, you can go to the local hospital supply store and get an I.V. I used to hang the gallon jug on a coatrack andlet the I.V. dangle over the tank lol.
I also bought a doser (which I returned). Since our tanks are on the smaller side, I think simple is better.
ps- take care not to shake the jug after letting it sit for 24 hours. The white powder on the bottom needs to stay OUT of the tank. Its ok if some gets in, but try your best not to.
 

monalisa

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I printed off the procedure that you posted last. I'm working diligently at this time on building calcium and lowering phosphates in my system. I'm really, really reluctant to put supplements into my tank (as you know).
I found a filter pad that will significantly reduce phosphates just by putting it in my filter. Have you ever heard of this? It's an Aqua-Pure cut-to-fit filter pad (HBH). This is the first time that I've come across anything like this, so I'm wondering about it. Gonna give it a go.
Lisa :happyfish
 

mudplayerx

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Yep. There are a few products that remove chemicals like phosphate and ammonia from the tank. However, I know that the ammonia-eliminator doesn't actually remove the ammonia, it detoxifies it. I'm not sure if the phosphate-eliminator actually removes the phosphate or not.
How are you getting phosphate in your tank? Have you tested the water that you use for changes/topoffs? Are you having algae problems?
What brand of test kit are you using to detect phosphate?
 
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