Tang Health/Happiness

cedarreef

Member
I have a 46 gallon bowfront tank with a small vlamingi tang right now, but I know I will have to trade him in soon. I'm in love with tangs, and I was wondering if there are any smaller tangs that can thrive in my system. I've seen people with 3 tangs in a 46 gallon, so this is why I'm asking. They all seem happy and healthy in there, too. I would want a tang I can get and just keep. Someone told me that blue hippo, yellow, sailfin, and kole would be good choices. Can someone else shed some light on this for me please?
 

robdog696

Member
The thing to remember here is that tangs are open water swimmers. They are not reef inhabitants in the same way that many other fish are. Most reef inhabitants live within a coral reef because it provides them some degree of safety. Most tangs, however, find safety in numbers. Tangs are found on coral reefs because algae is an abundant food supply there. They act as "cleaner fish" to sea turtles, large fish, and even sharks.
I shudder at the thought of three tangs in a 46 gallon tank. It's like keeping three great danes in a kennel. You might be able to keep them healthy and from killing one another. But wouldn't you pass on buying even one of these large breed dogs if you didn't have a large back yard for them to roam?
If you purchase one of the above mentioned tangs as a juvi, I don't see a problem with it. If the fish has never really known open water then it will be more content in a home aquarium. Buying tank bred or juvi fish is always a good idea!
But the best idea is getting a larger tank since you obviously love tangs! I'd be looking for my local reef club and be keeping an eye on their dry goods selling forum. You might find a really good deal that would allow you to keep the vlamingi AND provide it a suitable home. Best of luck!
 

cedarreef

Member
Thanks so much for the great advice. Unfortunately, I do not have the funds to upgrade any time soon. I saw a blue hippo tang at my lfs that was about one/ one and a half inches. I doubt this fish was caught in the ocean at that size so it's most likely tank bred. Would this be ok for my system?
 

robdog696

Member
If you're absolutely adamant about adding a tang... in my personal opinion a baby blue hippo would be the best choice, yes.
 

cedarreef

Member
I could always go without the tang. I just want something that will be healthy and happy in my system. Would this be a good choice at all?
 

aquaknight

Active Member
Well, there are no "tank bred" tangs. They are indeed caught at that smalll size. Unfortunately I really don't recommend them because most are simply too young to adjust to captivity and perish.
If you really want something that will be happy and heathly, there aren't tangs that will work. If you want something larger, look into the different "dwarf" angels. They are much more well suited for a 46gal.
 

cedarreef

Member
I would try a dwarf angel, but my tank will be a reef very soon, and I don't want to take any risks of the angel eating my coral.
 

robdog696

Member
I wasn't saying that tangs are tank bred. Sorry if it sounded that way. I was just piggy backing on my belief that buying juvis is a good idea. I hate to disagree with as knowledgeable of a hobbyist as AquaK, but from everything I have read juvis (that do survive) make the best aquarium inhabitants. I do agree, however, that a large number don't survive. I have not read anything suggesting this is due to inability to acclimate. Everything I have read has stated that the reason for the low survival rate is simply that they are more delicate as juvis.
I still think you might be shocked at some of the deals you might find on your local reef club. I've seen tanks large enough for a tang sold on my reef club forum for the same price I've seen some tangs sell for. The reason you will only find these awesome deals on your reef club forum is because people are looking for someone local.
 

aquaknight

Active Member
Originally Posted by Robdog696
http:///forum/post/2726589
I wasn't saying that tangs are tank bred. Sorry if it sounded that way. I was just piggy backing on my belief that buying juvis is a good idea. I hate to disagree with as knowledgeable of a hobbyist as AquaK, but from everything I have read juvis (that do survive) make the best aquarium inhabitants. I do agree, however, that a large number don't survive. I have not read anything suggesting this is due to inability to acclimate. Everything I have read has stated that the reason for the low survival rate is simply that they are more delicate as juvis.
I still think you might be shocked at some of the deals you might find on your local reef club. I've seen tanks large enough for a tang sold on my reef club forum for the same price I've seen some tangs sell for. The reason you will only find these awesome deals on your reef club forum is because people are looking for someone local.
Juvi's in general, I fully agree, they make the best inhabits for a tank. I was gearing that response for the "super-tiny" Hippo's I've seen in the stores. The ones from .5" to about 1.5." I took it as those were the ones Cedar was more so referring to? IMO/E, there really shouldn't be a difference in a 1" tang or a 2.5" tang, as far as eventually being 'good fish' in an aquarium. However there will be a big difference in the adjustment period that tiny tang takes, or the 3", which will out and about in a day or two.
The delicate issue is also something to point out. Many tiny juvi's also don't take to prepared foods very well, leaving them to only eat what they pick off the rocks. And you need a fair amount of rocks for them to pick at, trying to force them into too small of a tank, without enough rocks, is other reason to stay clear.
 

robdog696

Member
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2726634
The delicate issue is also something to point out. Many tiny juvi's also don't take to prepared foods very well, leaving them to only eat what they pick off the rocks. And you need a fair amount of rocks for them to pick at, trying to force them into too small of a tank, without enough rocks, is other reason to stay clear.
I always learn something new from you! That's something I'd never considered.
 

redman1221

Member
Originally Posted by CedarReef
http:///forum/post/2726274
I have a 46 gallon bowfront tank with a small vlamingi tang right now, but I know I will have to trade him in soon. I'm in love with tangs, and I was wondering if there are any smaller tangs that can thrive in my system. I've seen people with 3 tangs in a 46 gallon, so this is why I'm asking. They all seem happy and healthy in there, too. I would want a tang I can get and just keep. Someone told me that blue hippo, yellow, sailfin, and kole would be good choices. Can someone else shed some light on this for me please?
Well a hippo, yellow, sailfin would get way to big for a 46g imo but a kole would be a good choice for your tank, jm2cents.
 
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