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Sailfins get pretty large...I dunno..
Tang mixes? No aggression...
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mario2377505
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Well I have a Naso Tang(3"), Yellow Tang(3"), Scopas Tang(4"), Flame Fin Tonmini Tang(5") and a Sailfin Tang(4") and they are all doing fine in my 72gl tank. They even swim together. Just can't wait to get my Blue Hippo Tang soon.
m0nk
Active Member
Originally Posted by mario2377505
http:///forum/post/2526618
Well I have a Naso Tang(3"), Yellow Tang(3"), Scopas Tang(4"), Flame Fin Tonmini Tang(5") and a Sailfin Tang(4") and they are all doing fine in my 72gl tank. They even swim together. Just can't wait to get my Blue Hippo Tang soon.
I'm not even going to begin to explain what's wrong with this. I would suggest you research these fish before adding any more.
http:///forum/post/2526618
Well I have a Naso Tang(3"), Yellow Tang(3"), Scopas Tang(4"), Flame Fin Tonmini Tang(5") and a Sailfin Tang(4") and they are all doing fine in my 72gl tank. They even swim together. Just can't wait to get my Blue Hippo Tang soon.
I'm not even going to begin to explain what's wrong with this. I would suggest you research these fish before adding any more.
m0nk
Active Member
Originally Posted by alyssia
http:///forum/post/2526729
I think Mario and tearully are trolls, and probably the same person. I'm ignoring them.
Yup, I agree. I didn't even see the one by tearully until you mentioned it, but that is truly a troll there as well.
http:///forum/post/2526729
I think Mario and tearully are trolls, and probably the same person. I'm ignoring them.
Yup, I agree. I didn't even see the one by tearully until you mentioned it, but that is truly a troll there as well.
mario2377505
New Member
Originally Posted by alyssia
http:///forum/post/2526729
I think Mario and tearully are trolls, and probably the same person. I'm ignoring them.
Sorry to say but I'm not a troll, here is my vidoe on youtube of my saltwater fish and I did my research and soon all my fishes will go in my 200gl tank.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cc2aqjxsAM
http:///forum/post/2526729
I think Mario and tearully are trolls, and probably the same person. I'm ignoring them.
Sorry to say but I'm not a troll, here is my vidoe on youtube of my saltwater fish and I did my research and soon all my fishes will go in my 200gl tank.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cc2aqjxsAM
m0nk
Active Member
Originally Posted by mario2377505
http:///forum/post/2526886
Sorry to say but I'm not a troll, here is my vidoe on youtube of my saltwater fish and I did my research and soon all my fishes will go in my 200gl tank.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cc2aqjxsAM
Just for future reference, when posting replies to threads started by relatively new hobbyists, it might help try to note that they won't be in a 72g long term (or just leave the tank size out) otherwise they'll get the impression that it's ok to overstock with tangs in a small tank like that.
http:///forum/post/2526886
Sorry to say but I'm not a troll, here is my vidoe on youtube of my saltwater fish and I did my research and soon all my fishes will go in my 200gl tank.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cc2aqjxsAM
Just for future reference, when posting replies to threads started by relatively new hobbyists, it might help try to note that they won't be in a 72g long term (or just leave the tank size out) otherwise they'll get the impression that it's ok to overstock with tangs in a small tank like that.
dsbdude
Member
Originally Posted by Saltman23
http:///forum/post/2526231
i have a naso and a yellow. NO problems at all.
How big is your tank?
http:///forum/post/2526231
i have a naso and a yellow. NO problems at all.
How big is your tank?
mario2377505
New Member
Also they are fine in a 72gl because the fish will not grown to what the websites say, thats actually the growth of the fish in the ocean not in a tank to be realistic. The biggest a fish has grown is been about 6" in my tank and it also depends on the tank sizes that will determine how big they grow. Thats goes for my friends that have had running there saltwater tanks for more then 10 years and some only have a 55gl tanks and there fish are healty and happy in the tanks so I dont know whats all this fuss with sizes of tank and that you can have this and that and so one but one thing is sure is that all saltwater fish live in the ocean and they are not killing each other!!!!!
dsbdude
Member
Originally Posted by mario2377505
http:///forum/post/2526954
Also they are fine in a 72gl because the fish will not grown to what the websites say, thats actually the growth of the fish in the ocean not in a tank to be realistic. The biggest a fish has grown is been about 6" in my tank and it also depends on the tank sizes that will determine how big they grow. Thats goes for my friends that have had running there saltwater tanks for more then 10 years and some only have a 55gl tanks and there fish are healty and happy in the tanks so I dont know whats all this fuss with sizes of tank and that you can have this and that and so one but one thing is sure is that all saltwater fish live in the ocean and they are not killing each other!!!!!
Dude..you're about to get flamed by somebody, not me...but somebody.....
Anybody think i could keep blue, yellow, and naso in a 100 gallon long or should i just stick with two....
http:///forum/post/2526954
Also they are fine in a 72gl because the fish will not grown to what the websites say, thats actually the growth of the fish in the ocean not in a tank to be realistic. The biggest a fish has grown is been about 6" in my tank and it also depends on the tank sizes that will determine how big they grow. Thats goes for my friends that have had running there saltwater tanks for more then 10 years and some only have a 55gl tanks and there fish are healty and happy in the tanks so I dont know whats all this fuss with sizes of tank and that you can have this and that and so one but one thing is sure is that all saltwater fish live in the ocean and they are not killing each other!!!!!
Dude..you're about to get flamed by somebody, not me...but somebody.....
Anybody think i could keep blue, yellow, and naso in a 100 gallon long or should i just stick with two....
mario2377505
New Member
thats kool because they can think what ever they want. Thats why I have my own saltwater tank and thats why they have there own saltwater tanks. So I can do what ever I want with mine and they can do whatever they want with there tanks since people are not paying for the things I add to my tank.
Peace out......
Peace out......
dsbdude
Member
Originally Posted by mario2377505
http:///forum/post/2526959
thats kool because they can think what ever they want. Thats why I have my own saltwater tank and thats why they have there own saltwater tanks. So I can do what ever I want with mine and they can do whatever they want with there tanks since people are not paying for the things I add to my tank.
Peace out......
Very well....just don't come back to this thread...it may be getting ugly......
http:///forum/post/2526959
thats kool because they can think what ever they want. Thats why I have my own saltwater tank and thats why they have there own saltwater tanks. So I can do what ever I want with mine and they can do whatever they want with there tanks since people are not paying for the things I add to my tank.
Peace out......
Very well....just don't come back to this thread...it may be getting ugly......
m0nk
Active Member
Originally Posted by DSBdude
http:///forum/post/2526956
Dude..you're about to get flamed by somebody, not me...but somebody.....
Anybody think i could keep blue, yellow, and naso in a 100 gallon long or should i just stick with two....
Personally, I don't think a naso should be in a tank smaller than 200g for more than the first 6 months or so of it's life because they do get up to 18 inches (I've seen them). This will also address the issue of fish size, brought up by the other poster:
Fish can, and do, grow to the size specified on sites like this one... if they are healthy. I've seen 12 inch hippo tangs, 22+ inch vlamingi tangs, 18 inch nasos... there's a member here that has a 10 inch yellow, and they're only listed at 8 inches on most sites. Fish shouldn't have stunted growth, otherwise they're not healthy and will have a drastically reduced lifespan. There's a lot of debate on the boards here about the minimum tank size for most tangs, but the best advice for most people who haven't been in the hobby for a year or two is that you really need to know the long-term implications of what you buy. Seriously consider the max size as accurate, and very possible, and if your fish will be living in a tank where it cannot reach that, then you should reconsider.
I'd love to have a naso, but I have a 180g tank and won't be putting one in there because this is the biggest I'll likely ever have the money own/operate, and I fully understand that it's just not going to work well in a 180g for it's entire life. I do have several others, a convict, hippo, and a sailfin, and will likely be adding a yellow (or two, so there's a grouping of 3 zebrasomas)... and that's pretty well close to the "overstock" range.
People also don't take bioload into account. Tangs have a huge bioload because they graze all day (which makes more detritus). If you have tangs that get to be rather large your bioload goes up and you can't keep as many fish as you would if you didn't have tangs. If you try to keep a heavily stocked tank, and have larger tangs, you'll likely have to deal with higher nitrates in some way. Just something to think about.
http:///forum/post/2526956
Dude..you're about to get flamed by somebody, not me...but somebody.....
Anybody think i could keep blue, yellow, and naso in a 100 gallon long or should i just stick with two....
Personally, I don't think a naso should be in a tank smaller than 200g for more than the first 6 months or so of it's life because they do get up to 18 inches (I've seen them). This will also address the issue of fish size, brought up by the other poster:
Fish can, and do, grow to the size specified on sites like this one... if they are healthy. I've seen 12 inch hippo tangs, 22+ inch vlamingi tangs, 18 inch nasos... there's a member here that has a 10 inch yellow, and they're only listed at 8 inches on most sites. Fish shouldn't have stunted growth, otherwise they're not healthy and will have a drastically reduced lifespan. There's a lot of debate on the boards here about the minimum tank size for most tangs, but the best advice for most people who haven't been in the hobby for a year or two is that you really need to know the long-term implications of what you buy. Seriously consider the max size as accurate, and very possible, and if your fish will be living in a tank where it cannot reach that, then you should reconsider.
I'd love to have a naso, but I have a 180g tank and won't be putting one in there because this is the biggest I'll likely ever have the money own/operate, and I fully understand that it's just not going to work well in a 180g for it's entire life. I do have several others, a convict, hippo, and a sailfin, and will likely be adding a yellow (or two, so there's a grouping of 3 zebrasomas)... and that's pretty well close to the "overstock" range.
People also don't take bioload into account. Tangs have a huge bioload because they graze all day (which makes more detritus). If you have tangs that get to be rather large your bioload goes up and you can't keep as many fish as you would if you didn't have tangs. If you try to keep a heavily stocked tank, and have larger tangs, you'll likely have to deal with higher nitrates in some way. Just something to think about.
lesleybird
Active Member
Originally Posted by dkw27
http:///forum/post/2526411
I have a YT, Naso (very peaceful) and a Kole together in a 125g, everyone gets along great....
You have a Naso in a 125 gallon? What a shame. It is really cruel to keep a Naso in a 125 gallon when they need like a 300 gallon. The hippo tang mentioned in this thread needs at least a 200 gallon as do sailfins which would be better i a 300 gallon. Why do people get fish and cram them into tiny tanks? Would you like living in a one room house the size of your bathroom? That's what it is like for a tang in a small tank. Mean to the fish.
http:///forum/post/2526411
I have a YT, Naso (very peaceful) and a Kole together in a 125g, everyone gets along great....
You have a Naso in a 125 gallon? What a shame. It is really cruel to keep a Naso in a 125 gallon when they need like a 300 gallon. The hippo tang mentioned in this thread needs at least a 200 gallon as do sailfins which would be better i a 300 gallon. Why do people get fish and cram them into tiny tanks? Would you like living in a one room house the size of your bathroom? That's what it is like for a tang in a small tank. Mean to the fish.
dsbdude
Member
Originally Posted by m0nk
http:///forum/post/2527017
Personally, I don't think a naso should be in a tank smaller than 200g for more than the first 6 months or so of it's life because they do get up to 18 inches (I've seen them). This will also address the issue of fish size, brought up by the other poster:
Fish can, and do, grow to the size specified on sites like this one... if they are healthy. I've seen 12 inch hippo tangs, 22+ inch vlamingi tangs, 18 inch nasos... there's a member here that has a 10 inch yellow, and they're only listed at 8 inches on most sites. Fish shouldn't have stunted growth, otherwise they're not healthy and will have a drastically reduced lifespan. There's a lot of debate on the boards here about the minimum tank size for most tangs, but the best advice for most people who haven't been in the hobby for a year or two is that you really need to know the long-term implications of what you buy. Seriously consider the max size as accurate, and very possible, and if your fish will be living in a tank where it cannot reach that, then you should reconsider.
I'd love to have a naso, but I have a 180g tank and won't be putting one in there because this is the biggest I'll likely ever have the money own/operate, and I fully understand that it's just not going to work well in a 180g for it's entire life. I do have several others, a convict, hippo, and a sailfin, and will likely be adding a yellow (or two, so there's a grouping of 3 zebrasomas)... and that's pretty well close to the "overstock" range.
People also don't take bioload into account. Tangs have a huge bioload because they graze all day (which makes more detritus). If you have tangs that get to be rather large your bioload goes up and you can't keep as many fish as you would if you didn't have tangs. If you try to keep a heavily stocked tank, and have larger tangs, you'll likely have to deal with higher nitrates in some way. Just something to think about.
ok...I'll stick with the yellow and blue for now
LOL... Lesley...tang police in making or is one already ..no offense
http:///forum/post/2527017
Personally, I don't think a naso should be in a tank smaller than 200g for more than the first 6 months or so of it's life because they do get up to 18 inches (I've seen them). This will also address the issue of fish size, brought up by the other poster:
Fish can, and do, grow to the size specified on sites like this one... if they are healthy. I've seen 12 inch hippo tangs, 22+ inch vlamingi tangs, 18 inch nasos... there's a member here that has a 10 inch yellow, and they're only listed at 8 inches on most sites. Fish shouldn't have stunted growth, otherwise they're not healthy and will have a drastically reduced lifespan. There's a lot of debate on the boards here about the minimum tank size for most tangs, but the best advice for most people who haven't been in the hobby for a year or two is that you really need to know the long-term implications of what you buy. Seriously consider the max size as accurate, and very possible, and if your fish will be living in a tank where it cannot reach that, then you should reconsider.
I'd love to have a naso, but I have a 180g tank and won't be putting one in there because this is the biggest I'll likely ever have the money own/operate, and I fully understand that it's just not going to work well in a 180g for it's entire life. I do have several others, a convict, hippo, and a sailfin, and will likely be adding a yellow (or two, so there's a grouping of 3 zebrasomas)... and that's pretty well close to the "overstock" range.
People also don't take bioload into account. Tangs have a huge bioload because they graze all day (which makes more detritus). If you have tangs that get to be rather large your bioload goes up and you can't keep as many fish as you would if you didn't have tangs. If you try to keep a heavily stocked tank, and have larger tangs, you'll likely have to deal with higher nitrates in some way. Just something to think about.
ok...I'll stick with the yellow and blue for now
LOL... Lesley...tang police in making or is one already ..no offense
m0nk
Active Member
Originally Posted by DSBdude
http:///forum/post/2526953
How big is your tank?
Btw, Saltman23 is another one who thinks that Nasos will survive in a small tank; he has a 75g, from what I remember from other threads.
http:///forum/post/2526953
How big is your tank?
Btw, Saltman23 is another one who thinks that Nasos will survive in a small tank; he has a 75g, from what I remember from other threads.
m0nk
Active Member
Originally Posted by DSBdude
http:///forum/post/2527044
ok...I'll stick with the yellow and blue for now
LOL...tang police in making..no offense
That's probably a good idea. When starting out, it's better to think conservatively and learn best practices over time than to start out aggressively and get some wrong fish for your setup right off the bat.
http:///forum/post/2527044
ok...I'll stick with the yellow and blue for now
LOL...tang police in making..no offense
That's probably a good idea. When starting out, it's better to think conservatively and learn best practices over time than to start out aggressively and get some wrong fish for your setup right off the bat.
dsbdude
Member
Originally Posted by m0nk
http:///forum/post/2527048
Btw, Saltman23 is another one who thinks that Nasos will survive in a small tank; he has a 75g, from what I remember from other threads.
You are Tang Police right...you're a pretty good one though....don't like other members that scream if the new people..like me...ask a simple question about tang tank sizes. THANKS
http:///forum/post/2527048
Btw, Saltman23 is another one who thinks that Nasos will survive in a small tank; he has a 75g, from what I remember from other threads.
You are Tang Police right...you're a pretty good one though....don't like other members that scream if the new people..like me...ask a simple question about tang tank sizes. THANKS
m0nk
Active Member
Originally Posted by DSBdude http:///forum/post/2527063
You are Tang Police right...you're a pretty good one though....don't like other members that scream if the new people..like me...ask a simple question about tang tank sizes. THANKS
Heh, thanks. I had actually started a thread to get some discussion going on the subject a while back:
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/307649/am-i-a-member-of-the-tang-police
Some people do get really heated, on both sides, and yes, it can get really brutal. I like to try and give facts that can help, and since people have free will there's nothing I can say that will completely prevent someone from doing something, but the individual should at least understand the implications of doing it.
You are Tang Police right...you're a pretty good one though....don't like other members that scream if the new people..like me...ask a simple question about tang tank sizes. THANKS
Heh, thanks. I had actually started a thread to get some discussion going on the subject a while back:
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/307649/am-i-a-member-of-the-tang-police
Some people do get really heated, on both sides, and yes, it can get really brutal. I like to try and give facts that can help, and since people have free will there's nothing I can say that will completely prevent someone from doing something, but the individual should at least understand the implications of doing it.