Tang ?

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by tunatamer4
You know what? It's very simple. Y'all are analyzing this too much. It was simple YES or NO question. ...
Simple answer, No.
Now, I'll explain in the hopes that you better understand what you are asking.
I encourage you to consult other "experts". You won't find any that advocate mixing multiple species of Tangs or keeping an adult Blue Tang in a 75.
Can it be done? Sure. Will they die? Probably. Can you buy another one to replace the dead? Yup. Do some people have success breaking this "rule"? Yes. Do people also fail at this? Just check the disease forum... Compare notes on folks that keep Tangs in 6 foot tanks after QT versus folks that break these two rules. There's an obvious correlation.
It's not a question of feeding, or adult size, or stress levels, or behavior, etc. It'a a combination of all of the above and more.

 

[beatlesfan]

Originally Posted by tunatamer4
You know what? It's very simple. Y'all are analyzing this too much. It was simple YES or NO question. Can more than one type of tang be kept in a tank at one time without killing each other?
The yellow attempted to eat ONLY the roots. It didn't graze on anything else at all. Not the little bit of hair that sprung up from time to time nor the nori or other veggie matter I tried to feed it to keep it alive. It picked at the roots and waited for the brine or mysis shrimp I was feeding the others.
There is MORE THAN ENOUGH to sustain multiple herbivores in the tank. When the hippo was purchased, I had jsut had eye surgeryand could not see it very well. My wife looked it over and gave the ok. When my vision was back to normal(a few days later) I thought the fish looked a bit thin in the shoulders. Three months later the fish is as thick as I have ever seen a tang anywhere. Almost obese!
I wish I was able to figure out how to post pics on here to show the amount of growth in the tank, but I am a computer idiot and just get by with turning it on.
Tango, thank you for the suggestion of the pygmy.
If there is anyone who knows how to type the words YES you can ,or NO you can't, please let me know. Otherwise I will seek help from other "experts"
Ok you want an answer. No. Plain and simple.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by montdj
I agree the TANG POLICE are getting old. I have started to stay away from this site because you get bashed and really never get your question answered.
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No one was bashed. The original poster asked a question that gets asked a lot and had some very helpful posts answering him.
The "Tang Police" do a service to this community more so than the people that say "sure, you can do it".
Dead and dying fish are a turn off to most hobbyists. If people come to this site and learn the dangers and avoid dead fish the hobby is promoted, they have a healthy tank, and eventually they will upgrade to a larger tank. All are good things for the hobby and SFW.

 

[tunatamer4]

"Like I always say about tangs; IF you have to ask, you are not ready to have them. You honestly did not want the truth, you just wanted answers to back up your want."
Do you really think that is the case?
Let me give you a little history here.
I started my SW about ten years ago after a few puffers I had got gill flukes and started to die off. I bombarded the tank with salt to kill the flukes and WHALA, I now have a saltwater tank with fish. Do some research, buy a few fish and some live rock.
Moved back to the beach, got a larger tank and started raising a few corals.
All was well for ver two years until a hurricane flooded the island and wiped out the power. After four days of not being able to return to my house, I was met by a milky, powerless,stinking soup which was once a beautiful ecosystem. Out of this mess the ONLY thing that was left alive was my male,1 yr.old Mandarin.
I went across the street and got some clean ocean water, down the road and picked some rocks from the surf to try and keep him alive until the tank was going again, which I was able to do,BTW.
That was about five years ago and since then I have not gotten into the coral seen again,but I have bought a computer and a cell phone.
This just seemed like a way to get an answer to a question without having to spend time reading magazine and book articles about the do's and don'ts of mixing fish. But after this experience I think I'll stick to the old fashioned way getting informed by reading and forming my own opinion.

 

[ice4ice]

Originally Posted by hot883
Like I always say about tangs; IF you have to ask, you are not ready to have them. You honestly did not want the truth, you just wanted answers to back up your want.
Thats a dangerous practice in this hobby as it will become frustrating AND expensive. Hippo's are OPEN water swimmers.

I couldn't agree with you more on this comment. Well put !!

 

[wangotango]

tunatamer, please re-read mombostic's and 1journeymans' last post.
-Justin

 

[montdj]

I am no tang expert or im i claming to be. I do my research just like the rest of you. (books, google, forums sites, etc) But i have not hurd of only keeping one tang in a tank. The basic 'rule of thumb' is to not put the same genus of tangs together. This is what i have read over and over. Also at the same time i do think size of tank and amount of lr and hiding places are a big concern.
Ok now what i am trying to say about the tang police is they need to lightin up a bit. I have read posts where they wont answer a queistion until someone tells them the size of there tank. witch in no way matters to the question there asking. (that is not the case with this post) The amount of flaming going on in this site is unreal and if evryone here doesnt see it then im sorry.
People shouldnt feel bad about making mistakes it happens. I have seen this site flame peaple for having no idea. Its not there fault a lfs just wanted there money. lets get these peaple turned around not leaving the hobbie crying and pissed off.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by montdj
Ok now what i am trying to say about the tang police is they need to lightin up a bit. I have read posts where they wont answer a queistion until someone tells them the size of there tank. ....
Do you mind posting a link to an example of this? I will gladly clear that up.
Tank size, imho, is one of the greatest links to issues with Tangs. Much like everytime someone has a difficulty with an anemone the first question everyone asks is "what kind of lights do you have".

 

[dskrezyna]

Originally Posted by montdj
But i have not hurd of only keeping one tang in a tank. The basic 'rule of thumb' is to not put the same genus of tangs together. This is what i have read over and over. Also at the same time i do think size of tank and amount of lr and hiding places are a big concern.
Yes, the genus matters but so does the tank size. They are both 'rules of thumb.' You will hear people say that most Tangs should be kept in 125g or larger tanks; with the few exceptions being Kole/Yellow tangs. I agree 100% with this. I saved up for months to buy a 180g and now I will have the luxury to select which ones I want. I trust a select amount of people on here based on their experience. If someone can only afford a 100g tank then I would expect them to have either a KT or YT in the tank, not both. And waiting to hear someone else complaining that a 6' tank is for the rich people is priceless. I'm nowhere near rich; it's a matter of saving and researching.
Originally Posted by montdj
I have read posts where they wont answer a queistion until someone tells them the size of there tank. witch in no way matters to the question there asking. (that is not the case with this post).
Again, tank size doesn't matter? Of course it matters. The person may be asking about an Achilles tang but will just mention 'Tang' and they could only have a 90g tank. The fact is when someone asks about a tang and they don't mention the size of their tank, people will ask. Why? Because Tangs have tank size limitations, moreso than almost all other fish. Simple as that. They are looking out for the owner's and the fish's sake.
Originally Posted by montdj
I have seen this site flame peaple for having no idea. Its not there fault a lfs just wanted there money. lets get these peaple turned around not leaving the hobbie crying and pissed off.
Please learn to spell.

 

[montdj]

See this is my point. Im not out looking for a fight. But i guess you two are. As for my spelling who cares. You two dont see the point so have a nice life

 

[dskrezyna]

I will admit that the "Please learn to spell" was a bit excessive and I sincerely apologize for that. As for the rest of the comments, I believe we answered them all.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by montdj
See this is my point. Im not out looking for a fight. But i guess you two are. As for my spelling who cares. You two dont see the point so have a nice life
No, sorry. You didn't catch the feel of my post. I'm not looking for a fight at all, I'm looking to fix an issue you see.
I genuinely will look over and mod out any aggressive posts that aren't asnwering the question.